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Who created universe ?

ppp

ppp

Well-Known Member
ecco said:
Ya gotta luv people who still try to play the "impossible odds" game.

YOU are the result of 1 in 100,000,000 sperm impregnating your mother's egg. YOUR father is the result of 1 in 100,000,000 sperm impregnating his mother's egg. HIS father is the result of 1 in 100,000,000 sperm impregnating his mother's egg.

In just three generations YOU exist because of a 1 in 100,000,000^3 possibility. Since you are so good with numbers, you can figure out the odds of you existing just going back 2000 years to the time of your Christ.

If you do, you will see that it is statistically impossible that YOU exist.

Please do let us know the results.
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People do love to try and impress with large numbers. It's so big! :D
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
osgart said:
Who created mount improbable?

1 in 10^10^123 is very precise indeed and I don't see that the multiverse has the royal flush of all possibilities on such huge numbers. And that's to permit life to happen much less odds on intelligent life occuring. And that's just one fine tuning constant. There's 26 precise constants for fine tuning.

So a who to the universe is not out of question. How agency takes hold of the universe and fine tunes it is the real mystery.
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Quite apart from the silliness of trying to retrospectively calculate probabilities (every result of shuffling a deck of cards produces a sequence with a probability of 1 in 80,658,175,170,943,878,571,660,636,856,403,766,975,289,505,440,883,277,824,000,000,000,000) from a position of near complete ignorance of any context, regardless of how improbable you think this universe must be, a creator, that then decides to create this universe, adds more constraints, so must be even more improbable.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Joe W said:
Is three labels for one person all that "trinity" means in Christianity? Cause you don't need a special word for that.
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The three names I offered were the names of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. How you wanted to interpret that is solely in your mind. :)
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
KenS said:
So... when I am father, husband and grandaddy... I am three people?
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The difference though, Ken, is in all three you are still human. You're role doesn't change Who you are just your role depending on the person you interact with.

A deity isn't a spirit. A spirit isn't a man of flesh and blood. Each deity (being), spirit (say love and grace), and human being (jesus) have totally different natures. The nature not their name makes them totally different persons. Spirit doesn't create, but connects the believer to the creator. Jesus doesn't create but his flesh dies so believers can be with the creator. The creator isn't human, and the spirit doesn't talk.

So the names/roles father, husband, granddaddy are just names to the same person with different roles. The idea of christianity is different natures for different roles but trinitarians say that's the same person (making it a bit more confusing than it needs to be). But generally, your analogy doesn't fit the trinitarian view of spirit is jesus is god-three natures, three roles not one nature, three roles.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
ecco said:
Ya gotta luv people who still try to play the "impossible odds" game.

YOU are the result of 1 in 100,000,000 sperm impregnating your mother's egg. YOUR father is the result of 1 in 100,000,000 sperm impregnating his mother's egg. HIS father is the result of 1 in 100,000,000 sperm impregnating his mother's egg.

In just three generations YOU exist because of a 1 in 100,000,000^3 possibility. Since you are so good with numbers, you can figure out the odds of you existing just going back 2000 years to the time of your Christ.

If you do, you will see that it is statistically impossible that YOU exist.

Please do let us know the results.
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Yet interestingly you are here to write your post, what are the odds of that?
 
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