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(Christians only) Did Jesus Dead on the Cross has Put an End to God's Law?

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
God gave his laws to the Jews only. If an outsider wanted to convert he would have to follow all of God's laws just as it was required of the Jews. That person would then be putting himself under the curse of the law just as the Jews are. For if he broke just one law he would be quilty of breaking them all. And would be required to offer the sacrifices which the law demands. But even those sacrifices were unable, as Paul says, to make him perfect before God.
Righteousness comes only by faith and not by works of the law.
The law is called "the ministration of condemnation" because man is unable to live up to the just requirements of God's laws.
If man was unable to live it, then God must be a very bad God, don't you think! An Almighty God that have created everything are giving His creation Laws that they could NOT carry. Hmmm!! Don't you see that there was always a remnant people that has keep God's Commandments as it is? A FEW!! That's why we FEW that are from Revelation 12:17 and 14:12, can obey God's 10 Commandments and have the faith OF Jesus. NOT in Jesus, but OF Jesus.
 

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
And? True statement but relevance to what we were talking about?
Yes, take a look carefully at Romans 8:1-7. Specially verse 4 and 7. It hurts me when I see people are stocking only in Romans 7. I know the devil always give half truth and half lie, or blind people that they ignore exactly what the meanings are.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Answered the question. Are you saying that God are confusing people?
Sorry, can't answer the question as its been moved to same faith debates and I'm not Christian.

If you want my answer post In religious debates next time
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Yes, take a look carefully at Romans 8:1-7. Specially verse 4 and 7. It hurts me when I see people are stocking only in Romans 7. I know the devil always give half truth and half lie, or blind people that they ignore exactly what the meanings are.

Quite frankly, I'm not sure where you are going with all of this in context of what this is about. If you added explanations, then the reader can figure out where you are going.
 
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Scott C.

Just one guy
The majority of Christians denominations thinking that Jesus dead on the cross has put an end to the Father God Law. Is this true? Is this teaching BIBLICAL?

If there is no law, there is no sin. If there is no sin, there is no law. Sin still exists, so laws exist. But not everything that was a sin under Old Testament Law (more specifically Mosaic Law) is a sin today. Christ fulfilled the Law of Moses.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
The majority of Christians denominations thinking that Jesus dead on the cross has put an end to the Father God Law. Is this true? Is this teaching BIBLICAL?
The resurrection puts an end to the old Covenant with it's attached terms and conditions. The new Covenant is everlasting life from the dead. So if you're in the true new Covenant then old things are passed away. Your old life is dead which life was under the ordinance of the first law. But if you're risen with Christ then you're under a new Law. The perfect law of liberty and this is the Law of Christ. Which is this: the gift of the holy Spirit. Because whoever is led of the Spirit is not under the Law of Moses. So they have a law that gives liberty and life.

Because Jesus Christ is the chief cornerstone; the first born from the dead. He is the foundation of a new creation. A new heaven and earth were begun to be built the moment Jesus rose from the grave and so if you're living in Jesus Christ then you also are part of the new creation and you will live forever in the new earth that God makes whose foundation is Jesus Christ. But only if you continue in Jesus Christ until the end of this present age.

So whatever is built on that tried stone, the precious cornerstone will past the test. Because all things must be baptized in the fire.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The majority of Christians denominations thinking that Jesus dead on the cross has put an end to the Father God Law. Is this true? Is this teaching BIBLICAL?
I find as Galatians 6:2 informs us that Christians are under the Law of the Christ.
This would be in harmony with 1 John 4:21; John 15:12; John 13:34-35
For Christ is the end of the law ( the temporary Constitution of the old Mosaic Law for ancient Israel ) - Romans 10:4
Jesus' NEW commandment surpasses the old Mosaic Law's Golden Rule - Leviticus 19:18.
Under Christ, Christians are to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.
In other words, we are Now to love neighbor MORE than self, more than the Golden Rule.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Yes, the first one is the first four of the Ten Commandments, and the second is the rest 6 of the 10 Commandments and it is for humans. If you love God, keep His 4 first Commandments including the Sabbath.
Sabbath keeping ended with Christ - Romans 10:4
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Does this earth and heaven has PASSED away?

By saying 'earth and heaven passed away' is just a statement that it is impossible.
Earth abides forever - see Ecclesiastes 1:4 B.
Humble meek people will inherit the Earth - Psalms 37:9-11,29
Adam was created to be here forever. Earth was Not a stepping stone to another place.
Adam never left Earth but Adam ' returned ' to where he started, the dust of the ground - Genesis 3:19; 2:7
Because we are innocent of what father Adam brought upon us is why God sent pre-human Jesus to Earth for us.
Jesus makes possible that the majority of people can gain everlasting life on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
This is a reason for Jesus' second coming' to bring ' healing ' to earth's nations as promised at Revelation 22:2; 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
 

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
Sorry, can't answer the question as its been moved to same faith debates and I'm not Christian.

If you want my answer post In religious debates next time
My friend religious and Christian is based on the same thing. Christians is following Jesus and Jehovah God.
Religious is following demons that are fallen angels. They all came from the same realm. God has created all of them. Only Jesus has coming out of God Himself.
 

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
By saying 'earth and heaven passed away' is just a statement that it is impossible.
Earth abides forever - see Ecclesiastes 1:4 B.
Humble meek people will inherit the Earth - Psalms 37:9-11,29
Adam was created to be here forever. Earth was Not a stepping stone to another place.
Adam never left Earth but Adam ' returned ' to where he started, the dust of the ground - Genesis 3:19; 2:7
Because we are innocent of what father Adam brought upon us is why God sent pre-human Jesus to Earth for us.
Jesus makes possible that the majority of people can gain everlasting life on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
This is a reason for Jesus' second coming' to bring ' healing ' to earth's nations as promised at Revelation 22:2; 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
Jesus second coming is not for healing people. He did it already. Now when He come is to take the one that belong to Him and live a 1000 millennium years in heaven. So the earth and the heaven stay, and also the rules.
 

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
No, Christianity has been led to the abomination of desolation, idolatry.

Malachi 2:10

You were taught to pray our Father

Everyone was created in the image of God and the spirit of God dwells within everyone.

Your carnal parents created your body. God gave it the Spirit. this is the reason why you were to call no man father, nor should you call no woman mother.

God is the father and mother spirit.

John 3:5-6
Even Paul says to Timothy that I am your father. Jesus have give us a commandment to call only God our Father. I didn't see anywhere in the Bible written "call God mother". Thst is men's teaching. Do you ever have call your Father, father? Do you have read the fifth commandment? Jesus says also don't call nobody teacher. When you are at school, did you call your teacher, teacher? If you are given classes now, do the students call you teacher?
Follow the story from the Bible completely, so that you can understand why Jesus says to the apostles don't call nobody your master.
 

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
Sabbath keeping ended with Christ - Romans 10:4
If it was ended in Romans 10:4, what about Romans 8:1-7? Specially verse 4 and 7. Verse 7 is a very dangerous verse. Let me know what you think, if it is the same Paul is contradicting himself.
 

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
I find as Galatians 6:2 informs us that Christians are under the Law of the Christ.
This would be in harmony with 1 John 4:21; John 15:12; John 13:34-35
For Christ is the end of the law ( the temporary Constitution of the old Mosaic Law for ancient Israel ) - Romans 10:4
Jesus' NEW commandment surpasses the old Mosaic Law's Golden Rule - Leviticus 19:18.
Under Christ, Christians are to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.
In other words, we are Now to love neighbor MORE than self, more than the Golden Rule.
My friend, what was nailed on the cross was only the sacrifices. They were shadows waiting till Jesus has come. The laws stay forever till Jesus returns to take us to heaven with Him. Read the book of Hebrews completely. And also read John 14:1-3
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Jesus second coming is not for healing people. He did it already. Now when He come is to take the one that belong to Him and live a 1000 millennium years in heaven. So the earth and the heaven stay, and also the rules.
I do Not see the ' healing ' now taking place as mentioned at Revelation 22:2
I do Not see everyone saying ," I am Not sick......." - Isaiah 33:24
I do Not see Earth and its people happy-and-healthy as described in Isaiah35th chapter.
I do Not see an end to ' enemy death ' as mentioned at 1 Corinthians 15:24-26

We do Not pray to take the one that belongs to Jesus to heaven, rather we are invited to pray the opposite for Jesus to come ! Revelation 22:20
We pray for the kingdom to come ( thy kingdom come..... )
We do Not pray to be 'taken away' to the kingdom, Nor pray to be 'taken up' to the kingdom.
So, by praying for Jesus to come we are praying to be part of that great crowd of people of Revelation 7:9 who will come through the great tribulation of Revelation 7:14
Isaiah 26:20 tells us what to do and it is Not being taken away anywhere.
 

Pipiripi

End Times Prophecy.
By saying 'earth and heaven passed away' is just a statement that it is impossible.
Earth abides forever - see Ecclesiastes 1:4 B.
Humble meek people will inherit the Earth - Psalms 37:9-11,29
Adam was created to be here forever. Earth was Not a stepping stone to another place.
Adam never left Earth but Adam ' returned ' to where he started, the dust of the ground - Genesis 3:19; 2:7
Because we are innocent of what father Adam brought upon us is why God sent pre-human Jesus to Earth for us.
Jesus makes possible that the majority of people can gain everlasting life on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
This is a reason for Jesus' second coming' to bring ' healing ' to earth's nations as promised at Revelation 22:2; 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
My friend are you ignoring Jesus words? Read Matthew 5:17
I do Not see the ' healing ' now taking place as mentioned at Revelation 22:2
I do Not see everyone saying ," I am Not sick......." - Isaiah 33:24
I do Not see Earth and its people happy-and-healthy as described in Isaiah35th chapter.
I do Not see an end to ' enemy death ' as mentioned at 1 Corinthians 15:24-26

We do Not pray to take the one that belongs to Jesus to heaven, rather we are invited to pray the opposite for Jesus to come ! Revelation 22:20
We pray for the kingdom to come ( thy kingdom come..... )
We do Not pray to be 'taken away' to the kingdom, Nor pray to be 'taken up' to the kingdom.
So, by praying for Jesus to come we are praying to be part of that great crowd of people of Revelation 7:9 who will come through the great tribulation of Revelation 7:14
Isaiah 26:20 tells us what to do and it is Not being taken away anywhere.
The only thing that you must see now, is Matthew 24.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
..................The laws stay forever till Jesus returns to take us to heaven with Him. Read the book of Hebrews completely. And also read John 14:1-3

The Law of the Christ ( Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 7:12) stays with us. The temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law for ancient Israel is finished - Romans 10:4.

Yes, Jesus does take people to heaven. I find Jesus was addressing his followers at John 14.
These are a small or ' little flock ' (Luke 12:32)
People like those of Luke 22:28-30; Daniel 7:18 who are the saints or holy ones.
These have that first or earlier resurrection as mentioned at Revelation 20:6; 2:10
They will reign with Christ having two jobs to do to as kings as priests over Earth - Revelation 5:9-10.
* As kings they will take care of governmental responsibilities for the people of Earth.
* As priests they will take care of spiritual duties for people of Earth.

The larger group of followers (John 10:16) are here on Earth.
People who died before Jesus (Matthew 11:11: Acts 2:34) can have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection on Earth.
ALL the people Jesus resurrected were resurrected back to live life on Earth.
Jesus promised humble meek people to inherit the Earth - Psalms 37:9-11,29; Matthew 5:5
The majority of people will be here on Earth.
This includes ALL the faithful people mentioned in Hebrews 11th chapter.
They are still asleep in the grave - Hebrews 11:13; Hebrews 11:39.

I wonder what makes you think I have Not read the book of Hebrews.
I find the ' us ' at Hebrews 1:2 is Not the brotherhood in general but the little flock of ' brothers'.- Hebrews 13:24
The holy brothers (Daniel 7:18) - Hebrews 3:1,12
So, only people like those to Luke 22:28-30 are called to heaven.

The figurative humble ' sheep ' at the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth at the time of Matthew 25:31-33,37 are living people.
They are alive on Earth at the time of Revelation 7:14,9 when the great tribulation that takes place on Earth.
Isaiah 26:20 shows there is No taken off of this Earth.
As in the days of Noah ( Matthew 24:37) there was No removing of Noah and family from Earth.

Seems to me quite a few people are going to be surprised that Jesus does Not take living people to heaven.
 
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