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Trump campaign conspiring with GOP leaders to disrupt the November election

Watchmen

Watchmen

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tytlyf said:
Of course integrity is important to the left. It's not democrats out there suppressing the vote, gerrymandering, cheating and attempting to change election day.
A more relevant question is:

"Is vote integrity not important to the right?"
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Hold on. If the left is for vote integrity, why are they trying to force mail-in voting in areas that don’t have a tried and true and secure system in place?
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

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Watchmen said:
Hold on. If the left is for vote integrity, why are they trying to force mail-in voting in areas that don’t have a tried and true and secure system in place?
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But there is already a tried and true and secure system in place.
Every election that system is tested
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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tytlyf said:
But there is already a tried and true and secure system in place.
Every election that system is tested
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False. There is not a tried and true mail-in system in place for all the states talking about it, particularly for the potential volume.
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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tytlyf said:
According to who and what metrics?
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According to Washington state’s top election official. Ignorance is bliss, but those paying real attention know you can’t just flip the switch and suddenly do mail-in voting with high integrity.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

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sun rise said:
@esmith 's Biden thread inspired me to post this one. But really there are so many to choose from.

Trump campaign conspiring with GOP leaders to disrupt the November election

On Saturday, Politico reported that President Donald Trump has been brainstorming with GOP officials on how to curb mail-in voting ahead of the 2020 election.


“Trump’s campaign and the Republican National Committee have taken to the courts dozens of times as part of a $20 million effort to challenge voting rules, including filing their own lawsuits in several battleground states, including Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Nevada,” reported Anita Kumar. “And around the time Trump started musing about delaying the election last week, aides and outside advisers began scrambling to ponder possible executive actions he could take to curb mail-in voting — everything from directing the postal service to not deliver certain ballots to stopping local officials from counting them after Election Day.”
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Another conspiracy theory.
What fun!
To me, it just looks like politics.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Twilight Hue said:
Will Trumps name be on the California ballot or will it be a write in?
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It will be on the ballot (and please don't cite the adticles where his name didnt appear in the primary election because even often point out it doesn't effect the general election).
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

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Shadow Wolf said:
Except we know Trump is attacking mail-in voting and is trying to prevent it. Those are the facts.
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Yes....but to call something done in the open a "conspiracy"
is a reach. Pols have long tried to manipulate things in such
a manner. Al Gore tried to get overseas military votes disallowed
because they were delayed in military mail. That wasn't a
conspiracy.....just politics as usual happening out in the open
for all to see.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Revoltingest said:
Yes....but to call something done in the open a "conspiracy"
is a reach. Pols have long tried to manipulate things in such
a manner. Al Gore tried to get overseas military votes disallowed
because they were delayed in military mail. That wasn't a
conspiracy.....just politics as usual happening out in the open
for all to see.
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Conspiracies are clandestine plots, be they based on reality and facts or involve aliens and the Illuminati.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

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Revoltingest said:
I suppose that one could say that Biden is conspiring
to become Prez by winning the election. The fiend !!
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Not the best choice of word, but technically yes. Such as, Bin Laden did carry out a conspiracy to attack within the United States. There are also a conspiracy of it being an inside false flag operation. One of these hypotheses has supporting evidence to reach its conclusion, the other has blurry pictures and vague words with no clear meaning behind them.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

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Twilight Hue said:
How is he doing that?
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Trump aides exploring executive actions to curb voting by mail
This past spring, President Donald Trump began a full-fledged assault on voting by mail, tweeting, retweeting and railing about massive fraud and rigged elections with scant evidence.

Then the Republican apparatus got to work backing up the president.
In the weeks since, Trump’s campaign and the Republican National Committee have taken to the courts dozens of times as part of a $20 million effort to challenge voting rules, including filing their own lawsuits in several battleground states, including Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Nevada. And around the time Trump started musing about delaying the election last week, aides and outside advisers began scrambling to ponder possible executive actions he could take to curb mail-in voting — everything from directing the postal service to not deliver certain ballots to stopping local officials from counting them after Election Day.
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Watchmen

Watchmen

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tytlyf said:
Hmm. Washington state? Post your source please. Until then, your assumption probably isn't true.
Washington was a vote-by-mail pioneer; now other states are following suit amid coronavirus
Washington’s successful vote-by-mail system wasn’t built overnight
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She’s been on NPR many times. Look it up. It’s not an assumption. She was explaining how great Washington’s system is and how it took a lot of time and effort to get it in place. It’s not something to be rushed. So you see, the article you posted actually supports my point. Good job.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

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Watchmen said:
She’s been on NPR many times. Look it up. It’s not an assumption. She was explaining how great Washington’s system is and how it took a lot of time and effort to get it in place. It’s not something to be rushed. So you see, the article you posted actually supports my point. Good job.
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No, it doesn't. Americans, I was taught, aren't quitters and don't give up when something looks hard.
"We choose to .. do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." (JFK)
Perhaps I was taught wrong? Or is it Republicans who run away when the going gets tough?
 
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