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Ditching a friend for offensive beliefs?

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I haven't ditched someone over it but my best friend says offensive things a lot however she says stuff about pretty much everyone and I just roll my eyes about some of it. She's like Cartman from South Park. Lol.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
but my best friend says offensive things a lot however she says stuff about pretty much everyone and I just roll my eyes about some of it.
It sounds that "saying nasty/offensive stuff about pretty much everyone" makes it kind of okay

But the :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: shows that you disagree with some of it

She should look you in the "rolling" eyes a little more
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
It sounds that "saying nasty/offensive stuff about pretty much everyone" makes it kind of okay

But the :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: shows that you disagree with some of it

She should look you in the "rolling" eyes a little more
It's because I know why she's saying it and where it's coming from. It's a long story.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Question: Have you ever ditched a friend for holding offensive beliefs?

My story:

I had a best friend, knew him from school since 1998. He was a good, loyal friend, and we’d talk frequently. We were best friends. He was a Moslem whereas I’m a Christian.

However, during one phone conversation he (basically) said that he hated all LGBT+ people and wanted to eventually exterminate us! (he did not know I was such a person and expected me to agree!)

In the past he had always been tolerant and permissive of homosexuality, and when he said those things it sounded like he was parroting what someone had told him. I think he has been radicalised. He is a very gullible person, he swallows whatever any person in authority tells him to believe. He is not capable of critical thinking. I'm pretty sure someone got to him...

Little did he know that I myself am homosexual.

I’m actually glad he gave me an excuse to kick him out of my life, as there is no scenario imaginable in which me telling him I’m gay would end well, even if he didn't want to exterminate such people. And now he will never know. Which considering his remarks is I think a good thing!
One of my cousins is pretty homophobic. In a general “macho” kind of way. He has expressed such a belief, but it might just have been brazen talk after one too many beers.
I usually light heartedly debate it with him. I feel like I’m slowly winning him over, because he’s not really a hateful sort of person. Just grew up in a time when that mindset was normal and even encouraged.
Incidentally his sister is a devout catholic but is fully supportive of LGBT+ rights.

That said we all need to place healthy limits around our relationships. Sometimes a friendship can be salvaged other times it’s best to cut out the toxicity.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
How do you guys tell if a best friend is just saying "things about people (friend included" and friend undermining other people (and friend) because of the things they say"?

A lot of people would stay in a verbally "abusive" relationship if they knew it insulted their character as a person. Do you guys ever draw a line or keep being friends (maybe "far away" friends, perhaps?)?
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
How do you guys tell if a best friend is just saying "things about people (friend included" and friend undermining other people (and friend) because of the things they say"?

A lot of people would stay in a verbally "abusive" relationship if they knew it insulted their character as a person. Do you guys ever draw a line or keep being friends (maybe "far away" friends, perhaps?)?
Not sure what you mean?...
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Would a racist ditch a friend if they discovered their friend was not a racist?

(A difficult question possibly, given that racists invariably deny that they are racists).
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Not sure what you mean?...

Oh. How do you guys judge whether it's your friends personality to insult others or its their morals?

For example, how do you take "all homosexuals should be exterminated" to be a joke or light hearted?

Can you tell the difference with being with someone who insults who you are or just making off comments you disagree with but doesn't affect your friendship?

If I said all Christians are murders seriously what Christian would want to bey friend or stay my friend?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Question: Have you ever ditched a friend for holding offensive beliefs?

My story:

I had a best friend, knew him from school since 1998. He was a good, loyal friend, and we’d talk frequently. We were best friends. He was a Moslem whereas I’m a Christian.

However, during one phone conversation he (basically) said that he hated all LGBT+ people and wanted to eventually exterminate us! (he did not know I was such a person and expected me to agree!)

In the past he had always been tolerant and permissive of homosexuality, and when he said those things it sounded like he was parroting what someone had told him. I think he has been radicalised. He is a very gullible person, he swallows whatever any person in authority tells him to believe. He is not capable of critical thinking. I'm pretty sure someone got to him...

Little did he know that I myself am homosexual.

I’m actually glad he gave me an excuse to kick him out of my life, as there is no scenario imaginable in which me telling him I’m gay would end well, even if he didn't want to exterminate such people. And now he will never know. Which considering his remarks is I think a good thing!
i don't think its psychologically healthy to maintain relationships where there is a lot of negativity involved.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Only when it's involved people's beliefs about me, personally and those translate into treating me like garbage. At which point, the dissolution of association with that person is pretty much a foregone conclusion anyway. If someone is that dead set on seeing you as the problem, there's no solution to that other than walking away.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Oh. How do you guys judge whether it's your friends personality to insult others or its their morals?

For example, how do you take "all homosexuals should be exterminated" to be a joke or light hearted?

Can you tell the difference with being with someone who insults who you are or just making off comments you disagree with but doesn't affect your friendship?

If I said all Christians are murders seriously what Christian would want to bey friend or stay my friend?

I suppose one needs to know a person well enough to know if they are genuine or not in their expressed opinions. I have a tendency to say things I don't actually believe but the people I'm with know I'm not serious - they know me and can see I'm being sarcastic. Probably doesn't always work with online forums :rolleyes:
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
[QUOTE="Secret Chief, post: 6766943, member: 68667"you have]Politics is certainly able to divide people. I knocked a long tem friendship on the head a good while ago when he decided he was going to be voting BNP.

I'm confident I could say how he voted in the Get Our Country Back (Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink) referendum.[/QUOTE]


BNP wow, i thought they only had 3 followers, you ex friend was up there.

We once had a customer who was a NF member, we had Muslim and Hindu artists. Office meetings were fraught.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
[QUOTE="Secret Chief, post: 6766943, member: 68667"you have]Politics is certainly able to divide people. I knocked a long tem friendship on the head a good while ago when he decided he was going to be voting BNP.

I'm confident I could say how he voted in the Get Our Country Back (Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink) referendum.


BNP wow, i thought they only had 3 followers, you ex friend was up there.

We once had a customer who was a NF member, we had Muslim and Hindu artists. Office meetings were fraught.[/QUOTE]

Ouch.

The BNP was practically mainstream round here. Of course, the attitudes remain the same.
 
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