Now I know prayer do work.

And no it is not me who made the prayer. I was prayed for today.

The thing is that I was asked if I wanted to receive a prayer because of my current health.
Without I knowing when the prayer was given, I did intuitively knew it was given, because I received the message of in need of study more of the teaching of Falun Gong, I did hear a voice tell me this.

And no I can not prove it to the non believers. It can only be verified through there one who prayed and what I received.

But it did help me see clear what I have been doing wrong all summer.

Altfish said:

I'm pleased it worked for you.
No need for medical staff and medicines from now on for you.
I'll stick with my doctor if that's ok.

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I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Why not both?

Altfish said:

I'm pleased it worked for you.
No need for medical staff and medicines from now on for you.
I'll stick with my doctor if that's ok.

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Did I say I do not need a doctor in the future? Where did you get that idea from?
All I said was that the prayer was received.

If this going to be yet an other OP that goes toward negativity, from something that was done in good faith, I see no reason to post any more.

Can nobody see the good in anything in RF anymore?

Amanaki said:

The thing is that I was asked if I wanted to receive a prayer because of my current health.
Without I knowing when the prayer was given, I did intuitively knew it was given, because I received the message of in need of study more of the teaching of Falun Gong, I did hear a voice tell me this.

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Well, you did know the prayer was likely to happen and, depending on the details, may have had a decent idea of when (if only subconsciously). The key question is whether you independently confirmed the prayer actually occurred at the same time as (or at least before) the effect you're attributing to it.

You also seem to be dismissing coincidence. Isn't it perfectly possible for you to have reached this moment of revelation completely independently of any prayer or other outside influence?

Which leads to the big question of why. Correctly me if I'm wrong, but is the idea here that God directly intervened only because this other person prayed on your behalf, this implication being that God wouldn't have bothered if the prayer hadn't happened? That concept has always struck me as impractical, flawed and inconsistent with a lot of other ideas about the nature of God, faith and belief.

Amanaki said:

And no I can not prove it to the non believers.

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You can't prove it to anyone, not even yourself. Maybe that's why you felt the need to post about it in the first place.

Amanaki said:

But it did help me see clear what I have been doing wrong all summer.

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I will point out that I'm glad you've had this positive experience in and of itself. I'm only asking (hopefully) respectful questions about the suggested cause. I'm not sure you're giving yourself enough credit.

KenS said:

I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Why not both?

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Why not a Ouija Board too?

Altfish said:

Why not a Ouija Board too?

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If it floats your boat!

I know that God doesn't send a bill after He restores health

I'm totally lost here !
What was the message ?
About your health, I suppose.
Fill all of us in ?
I don't feel stoned....am I ?

KenS said:

If it floats your boat!

I know that God doesn't send a bill after He restores health

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Neither does the NHS in our country

Altfish said:

Neither does the NHS in our country

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that's because you paid it through taxes.

Our answered prayers is because Jesus paid for it.

KenS said:

that's because you paid it through taxes.

Our answered prayers is because Jesus paid for it.

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But it is a lot cheaper than the US system

Amanaki said:

And no it is not me who made the prayer. I was prayed for today.

The thing is that I was asked if I wanted to receive a prayer because of my current health.
Without I knowing when the prayer was given, I did intuitively knew it was given, because I received the message of in need of study more of the teaching of Falun Gong, I did hear a voice tell me this.

And no I can not prove it to the non believers. It can only be verified through there one who prayed and what I received.

But it did help me see clear what I have been doing wrong all summer.

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Was your prayer that was answered, answerd unambiguously i.e. in such a manner that it could not be explained by chance or coincidence? If not, I remain unconvinced. And I'm not trying to be unkind or insensitive or tell you to change your beliefs. But you started a public thread on a public website claiming that you know with certainty that prayer works, and are getting upset when people challenge you on that assumption. I'm happy for you if prayer makes you feel better, and your health is improving. That's wonderful. But you can't just make an assertion of absolute certainty that "prayer" cured your illness and expect no one to be skeptical or challenge your assertions. And we're not doing so to be unkind or negative. Skepticism is an important way of discovering the facts.

To of you who have commented on this post.
I should give an apology for my behaviour in this and in other OP I have taken part in, and where I let my frustration get to me, honestly my behaviour has been under par, and I see that let my personal problems get toward your reply to me. I know an apology isn't enough to correct my faults.

I will try to become a better person.

Amanaki said:

And no it is not me who made the prayer. I was prayed for today.

The thing is that I was asked if I wanted to receive a prayer because of my current health.
Without I knowing when the prayer was given, I did intuitively knew it was given, because I received the message of in need of study more of the teaching of Falun Gong, I did hear a voice tell me this.

And no I can not prove it to the non believers. It can only be verified through there one who prayed and what I received.

But it did help me see clear what I have been doing wrong all summer.

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And I believe in "premonitions" as a form of what's called "contemplative prayer", and it is through contemplation whereas we use the age-old technique of being more of a "listener" than just a "talker".

If, as you say, prayer works, why not pray that the Corona Virus goes away and stops killing people by the thousands every day?

Evangelicalhumanist said:

If, as you say, prayer works, why not pray that the Corona Virus goes away and stops killing people by the thousands every day?

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I believe millions of people around the world praying for that to happen. I can not give answer on if that will remove corona virus or not.