King Phenomenon
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How can one accept evolution when it's based on chance?
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Evolve
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Sure. Why not? We accept Quantum Mechanics.
King Phenomenon
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Ant man went subatomic
Fiction.
Because it isn't. That's a gross oversimplification. Even if it was based on chance, many people seem to have no problem accepting gambling (something that is actually based on chance), so I'm not sure how that's supposed to present some sort of issue.
King Phenomenon
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What's it based on then? In layman's terms.
It's complicated, but biological evolution is far more about fitness than chance. Put another way, it is far more about how suited an organism is to survive under specific sets of circumstances. When some attribute of an organism confers a survival advantage in a given environment (say, better visual receptors or "eyes" to spot threats), it is selected for and becomes more common in the population. In most respects, that's rather the opposite of chance.
epronovost
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How is "chance" a problem? Chance is a thing that exists in our universe thus it plays a role in a variety of phenomenon in the universe, including evolution.
It's not based on chance. Chance mutations is just one element. And it's been proven using the scientific method by genetics and many other disciplines. To deny evolution is to deny physics, biology especially genetics, chemistry and other disciplines.
King Phenomenon
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Surely most species are threatened by another so why didn't they evolve?
King Phenomenon
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Where is all the missing links if all we have is a catalog of different species that have lived?
Altfish
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It is not based wholly on chance; you forget the crucial selection bit.
Altfish
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You are a link between your parents and your children.
Most links do not survive because they are not fossilised
More natural selection and molecular adaptation rather than chance
King Phenomenon
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So do the fossils form a believable timeline in our evolution?
exchemist
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If you were to study physical science you would find out that a lot of the phenomena we observe are due to random behaviour at the microscopic level (atoms and molecules) leading to ordered behaviour at the macro scale. There is nothing unusual about evolution as far as this is concerned.
exchemist
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Totally.
exchemist
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In a book at home I have a table listing over 200 transitional fossils, linking different forms. But it is hardly surprising there are gaps, when you consider how unusual it is for a dead creature to become fossilised, and then how rare it is for the rock containing it to be exposed at the surface, and then how lucky it is for someone to find it.
King Phenomenon
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That's interesting. I assume you're talking about skulls and if you are how many more do you think it would take to to have somewhat of a complete timeline?
King Phenomenon
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I read this in an article on the web and I really can't find any more information about it.
. "If you want a complete record, you are effectively asking for a fossil from every organism that ever lived. Second, why would you need a complete record? One does not need billions and billions of transitional forms and predecessors to see that the theory of evolution is sound. The thousands that we currently have should suffice, and they do".
So this isn't really helping me much. Actually I would like to see a book like that or actually see them in person.
that would be cool