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Enemies of God

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Who are the enemies of Love?


Those of a title or those of an action?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Why is the thread title different to the question?
Are you trying to say God = Love?


What could be more divine? More godly than love of one for another as self, friend?

1 John 4:7-21

The love as Christ in All

Words are superfluous. Action is everything
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
We already have a perfectly good word for love... it's love. No need to go redefining an emotion as god.
the romantics, poets, and those from the enlightened age would disagree with you. you're running a bit late by trying to limit the idea and action of love to an emotion. its an actual physical action.

babies have to have it to thrive. it's essential to life and what most religions are describing metaphorically.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Please stop trying to co-opt love for your religion.
and what religion is mine? humanism use the law of reciprocity; which again is basically the idea of compassion/love for all.


i'm referring to a human basic need as described by maslow's hierarchy of needs.


religions, belief systems, arose from the idea. psychological well being is inherent and intrinsic to it.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
the romantics, poets, and those from the enlightened age would disagree with you. you're running a bit late by trying to limit the idea and action of love to an emotion. its an actual physical action.

babies have to have it to thrive. it's essential to life and what most religions are describing metaphorically.

No, love IS an emotion, one that can prompt people to take actual physical action. Just like hate is also an emotion, one that can prompt people to take actual physical action. Simply redefining love as god is rather silly and accomplishes absolutely nothing.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
No, love IS an emotion, one that can prompt people to take actual physical action. Just like hate is also an emotion, one that can prompt people to take actual physical action. Simply redefining love as god is rather silly and accomplishes absolutely nothing.
i didn't redefine love. the ancients defined love as divine. the song of solomon and all other such mystical tomes are about the mind and body becoming ONE. love is the drink of the god's, known in some circles as ambrosia, et al.

maslow, et al, have proven you wrong. you have to have both and the bible says belief/thought without action is worthless.

actual physical touch of the nurturing kind is necessary for healthy psychological and "physical" development. you can't have one without the other. thoughts of love does nothing for those in need.


the loving are entering paradise, i'm a wh0r3 for it
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
i didn't redefine love. the ancients defined love as divine. the song of solomon and all other such mystical tomes are about the mind and body becoming ONE. love is the drink of the god's, known in some circles as ambrosia, et al.

maslow, et al, have proven you wrong. you have to have both and the bible says belief/thought without action is worthless.

actual physical touch of the nurturing kind is necessary for healthy psychological and "physical" development. you can't have one without the other. thoughts of love does nothing for those in need.


the loving are entering paradise, i'm a wh0r3 for it


"We accept the love we think we deserve..." "Love is a many splendid thing..." " Love doesn't make the world go round, love is what makes life worth living..."

Yeah, I can come up with all sorts of quotes about the emotion we call love as well. Doesn't change the fact that love is already a perfectly good word for the emotion and changing it to god would be just plain silly. I'm not going to talk about the first time I fell in god with my wife... or tell my wife that I god her with all of my heart. Or that having children taught me about a whole new kind of god.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I think an "enemy of God" is a very rare occurrence. That is someone who believes in God, but for some reason has chosen to hold God as their 'enemy'. I do know one person who tends to think in this way. But I don't think he does so consistently. I think it's more of an emotional 'outburst' brought on by negative circumstances.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
What could be more divine? More godly than love of one for another as self, friend?

1 John 4:7-21

The love as Christ in All

Words are superfluous. Action is everything

Eh, I don't really think in terms of something being "more divine" or "less divine" - it's not something that one quantifies. In my view, all things are essentially gods, so while some of the gods are love (the Greeks had multiple gods to describe "gods of love") it certainly doesn't describe all of them. The gods are diverse, and as a consequence, all of them more or less have "enemies" to put it in awkward human terms. Could be in title or action (possibly both).
 
Who are the enemies of Love?


Those of a title or those of an action?


Scripture states that “…the one called Devil, and Satan…” is shown to be the one “misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Revelation 12:9) The apostle John wrote: “...the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) Satan is therefore “the ruler of this world.” (John 12:31) That is why James wrote that “the friendship with the world is enmity [an enemy to] with God.”-James 4:4. Christian in opposition to the "world" will be considered/constituted enemies also.

Compare these, I feel, related scriptures: John 15:17-23; Romans 12:2; 1 Corinthians 1:19, 20; 2:14, 15; 3:18-20; 2 Timothy 3:12; 1 Peter 4:3, 4.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
What could be more divine? More godly than love of one for another as self, friend?

1 John 4:7-21

The love as Christ in All

Words are superfluous. Action is everything
Oh I don't know.
Going off the Bible, my first thought would be "might makes right" long before "love"...
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Who are the enemies of Love?


Those of a title or those of an action?



God has no enemies. On the other hand, many could never think God exists, based on so many of those religious descriptions of God religions provide. On the other hand, simply because one can not blindly accept the descriptions of God others provide, does not necessarily mean one is an enemy.

Everyone already knows God whether they know they know or not. There will be no enemies.

No one is an enemy of Love provided it is really Love one is receiving.

There is a Love that exists that feels so Good and so Complete that it will heal all hurt. It is a Love we would do anything for. We have all experienced this Love even if we do not remember. We will experience this Unconditional Love again. It has never ever been about Believing or Punishment.

That's what I see. It's very very clear!!
 
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