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Did God made any mistake ?

chinu

chinu
God, if he existed, wouldn't allow evil to exist. Therefore, God doesn't exist.

In the first place... "God" created world.
In the second place... "He" added both "Good" and "Evil" into it.
In the third place... "He" started taking applications from the interested creatures who want to jump into it. (But, at their own risk )
In the forth place... Creatures started entering into the world.
In the fifth place... "He" also started taking applications from the creatures who are fed-up from this world, and want to come out from this world.

loll.. creatures thought that entering into this world will be enjoyable like entering into an amusement park,
And did a MISTAKE !!
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
By definition, God is omnibenevolent and omnipotent. In other words, he wants evil not to exist and has the power to make it happen.
So that is your human thought, trying to say what a God thinks or feel, personally i do not know what a God think or feel, but i gain some understanding from all the reading i done from the teachings. But i dont put my words in what a God mean or like/dislike.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
So that is your human thought, trying to say what a God thinks or feel, personally i do not know what a God think or feel, but i gain some understanding from all the reading i done from the teachings. But i dont put my words in what a God mean or like/dislike.

It is not merely my human thought.
It is what God is (or would be if he existed).
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
NO, you cannot stop because its the world WITHOUT creatures. (Empty-world)
A world that was created on the demand of creatures.

I have no idea what that has to do with what I have said. It doesn't matter if the world was created on the demand of creatures, God still could not create a world with evil.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
I will stop you right here.
God could not possibly add evil to the world.
Isaiah 45:6-7, for a Jewish and Christian view...

In order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other. Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these.


From a Jewish translation.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
So you think this is what God think, you dont believe in existance of Gods, so it must be your own opinion and thoughts ;)

It is a matter of definition.
Any being that is not omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent is not God, mas God wouldn't allow evil to exist.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Isaiah 45:6-7, for a Jewish and Christian view...

In order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other. Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these.

From a Jewish translation.

It is figure of speech.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
You can read it how you like but that's what it says and it's interpreted by mainstream Judaism to mean exactly what it says.

Even if that's the case, at best it means that either mainstream Judaism doesn't consider God to be omnibenevolent or holds a logically contradictory view.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
What exactly is my view?
The definition or what follows from the definition?
It seems very clear you put you self in Gods place and say what a God can or can not do. By doing that you put your self above God, and no man can do that.
It is impossible to know fully what a God think or have views on, from our human existance. So what you do is creating your own image of what you think a God is.

I know you will deny this :)
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
No,
By God I simply mean God. Nothing else.

My apologies, that doesn't help clarify for me. "God" in proper case means you are referencing a proper noun, which in English-speaking countries is nearly always a reference to the one-god of classical monotheism (aka, the Abrahamic religions). Do you mean to say that you are actually asking do gods - any god-concept from any culture - make mistakes? Because that's a very different question than asking about God.
 

chinu

chinu
I have no idea what that has to do with what I have said. It doesn't matter if the world was created on the demand of creatures, God still could not create a world with evil.

Take for example: Video-Game.

There's no thrill in a video-game until there's a villain in-front of hero :)

Even when human created a video-game to play, it was created with a villain inside it.
Otherwise, video-game would sound boring :)
 

chinu

chinu
My apologies, that doesn't help clarify for me. "God" in proper case means you are referencing a proper noun, which in English-speaking countries is nearly always a reference to the one-god of classical monotheism (aka, the Abrahamic religions). Do you mean to say that you are actually asking do gods - any god-concept from any culture - make mistakes? Because that's a very different question than asking about God.
Okay let me introduce you to my definition of God.

God: the one who has created all the things that we see all around us.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Okay let me introduce you to my definition of God.

God: the one who has created all the things that we see all around us.

Okay, that helps - so still monotheism, and required to be a creator god. That excludes all the gods I worship, so I'll just leave my own theology out of it.

In this case, you can answer your question any way you want. There's nothing about a creator god-concept that necessitates perfection or imperfection (and by extension, the capability of making mistakes). It thus becomes all about whatever you want to believe about it, I guess.
 
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