truthseeker7
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Do you DARE QUESTION GOD????
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rational experiences
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Natural exists first, the natural form of everything.
No stories, no lying and no male coercing. History and reason I can think.
Science did not exist in reality, it was chosen.
Natural, when you are spiritual, owning no condition to reason anything other than how to live, survive living and own living.
Then science was conceptualised. It caused artificial conditions, that did not exist naturally.
Machines.
The status AI artificial and AI p AI n and suffering was introduced artificially by the sciences, the artificial machine.
Science says I need EXTRA radiation for the conditions to force the held fusion of the planet to alter, to release powers within it, very cold powers.
So I have to heat it up.
Ask yourself how do I heat it up?
Real answer with extra cold spatial radiation x MASS....that I bring into the Earth burning gas mass.....which is natural light in its beginnings. Then I heat it up and it mass disperses until the spatial vacuum plus Earth cooling gases/water deals with it.
Not natural, artificial, an attack, the cause of attack.
Humans, I live on ONE planet only, I do not live or survive anywhere else.
Taught...and taught concepts. Said the movement of natural light upon the face of the spatial great deep as spirits of the O one planet moved on the face of water.
I live owning my life in natural light and my own cells move in that image.
Then he activated the UFO mass with his pyramid temple science, and was ground fission reacted. Seeing the history of his UFO research was mountain ^ first, the first law of science MOUNTAIN. The mountain in its conversion melted....why in modern times his Temple steps showed melt.
He then changed his original cellular ownership of how it moved in his body as made in the Image of the spirit of God moving on the face of the waters into a nuclear vision feed back cloud cooling event.
Added extra cloud amassing to contradict his ground fission irradiation attack on self.
Science is religion originally. Then science had to impose laws of an agreed male community against, mind irradiation behaviours, which became out of control society. It also involved human civilization protection, and then due to non stop want of what he says is the Holy Grail....being God nuclear conditions as ONE, the planet and stone, kept abominating changing natural life and cell Genetics.
So he imposed cruel and harsh laws due to mind/brain chemical changes and behaviour and feeling changes.
Today we can look back and say we have evolved and understand incorrect methods of imposing human laws.......yet it was due to occultism, being the UFO mass used for nuclear science actually.
Therefore when you claim you have evolved, then so does human reasoning to support that evolution to prove to your own self, in many and multi human choices where you are wrong....science being the very first wrong choice.
truthseeker7
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im not following your point well
rational experiences
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Because occult scientist I am not any well.
CG Didymus
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Every one is told not to question their Holy Book, but they question everybody else's. Do we every know enough about what a religion says and believes to ever stop asking questions.... "Why do we believe this?" If the answer is, "Because God said so." And when we ask, "How do we know God said so?" And the answer is, "Because His Holy Book says so." If we accept that as an answer, then we are probably following blindly.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Personally i do not question God but i question my self, i do not follow the Christian God but in the teaching i try follow, i ask questions toward why I can not realize the truth within the teaching. And i question my self for not doing a very good job of following the teaching.
Not so clear, but interesting questions. Will comment more later. Honest inquiring skepticism is an important part of the search, but it and in of itself does not provide answers.
Bird123
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Yes, I think you are right. I like your statement: Your quote:Every one is told not to question their Holy Book, but they question everybody else's.
My Answer: I guess people who blindly follow would have a real problem if they got stuck on two holy books. In reality, I think they have to find errors in others in order not to get stuck on two holy books.
Personally, I do not understand how anyone could be satisfied with mere beliefs. I would have to know more. On the other hand, accepting and doing no more takes lots less work.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Bird123
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Personally i do not question God but i question my self, i do not follow the Christian God but in the teaching i try follow, i ask questions toward why I can not realize the truth within the teaching. And i question my self for not doing a very good job of following the teaching.
Since everything should be questioned, perhaps the assumption that any holy book comes from God should be questioned before one tries to make books written by mankind fit what God's system really is.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Bird123
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To question is just the start on the journey to Discovery. You are right. There is much work beyond this point.
rational experiences
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Humans supposedly teach humans, on and for humans.
So if a human said I wrote this book to teach you, then you would ask, what was being taught and what reasons did the teaching own.
And then you would ask, are you a teacher yourself, to know what the book is stating.
Everyone would know, you cannot talk about being sacrificed until it occurs. So sacrifice cannot exist before a life existed. First teaching.
Second teaching I am living after the sacrifice occurred....so then you would say in this teaching, so I survived as Genesis/Genetic DNA.
Then you would ask why you survived if other humans in the past never survived SCIENCE and its machine caused irradiation fall out on the ground. That changed a cold stone fused body, cold gases, gases that a human said the spirit of which is deceased, no longer owner light. Light being their life ownership....teaching.
To say and the spirits arose out of the body Earth and they were alive, meaning alight and burning, seeing science tried to own beginning of natural light, burning gases....held in the higher heavens where not only the spatial vacuum cools it, cold gases, and also water cools it. That sort of REAL teaching.
Then you would say to self......if I come out of sperm and an ovary from human sex, then these documents are fake. For a human being life lives after an APE in animal Nature.
By how they were written.
For they were not writing about HUMAN CREATION....they wrote about human males who invented created and attacked our Genetics and it detailed how they created the attack against life by changing Planet Earth....as a human teaching.
So if you also said, gases and light and cooling moved as spirit gases in space, the great deep on the face of water....a teaching. If you said that the movement formed O G spiral back into O split into D/D...then you did and then also taught that the human cell acted in accordance to its OWNED continuance in that movement also....to say made in the Image of, the spirit in the Heavens.
As a teaching. As a correct teaching. The reason it was taught, FALL OUT does not move as God, nor does it allow a human cell to exist, so the cell leeches chemical perfumes, the cell unnaturally bleeds and the cell unnaturally dies.
So life got scientific irradiation, for no scientist with a machine, his design owns a volition of its own. He was not speaking on behalf of any body natural. Natural is natural. He is a coercive Satanist/scientist. A human liar, who pretended to do natural but did artificial only by his control of the machine. The design, his machine cannot act on its own behalf...therefore it was not acting on behalf of any natural body that he spoke about.
Coercion is party to group mentality, to lying for self reasons, it was never for the self, one holy self, natural life. One self would never own science nor do science RATIONALLY when you impose a HOLY one human. You would and could only be natural and survive natural. What the real ONE teaching said....stop lying.
So if a human said I wrote this book to teach you, then you would ask, what was being taught and what reasons did the teaching own.
And then you would ask, are you a teacher yourself, to know what the book is stating.
Everyone would know, you cannot talk about being sacrificed until it occurs. So sacrifice cannot exist before a life existed. First teaching.
Second teaching I am living after the sacrifice occurred....so then you would say in this teaching, so I survived as Genesis/Genetic DNA.
Then you would ask why you survived if other humans in the past never survived SCIENCE and its machine caused irradiation fall out on the ground. That changed a cold stone fused body, cold gases, gases that a human said the spirit of which is deceased, no longer owner light. Light being their life ownership....teaching.
To say and the spirits arose out of the body Earth and they were alive, meaning alight and burning, seeing science tried to own beginning of natural light, burning gases....held in the higher heavens where not only the spatial vacuum cools it, cold gases, and also water cools it. That sort of REAL teaching.
Then you would say to self......if I come out of sperm and an ovary from human sex, then these documents are fake. For a human being life lives after an APE in animal Nature.
By how they were written.
For they were not writing about HUMAN CREATION....they wrote about human males who invented created and attacked our Genetics and it detailed how they created the attack against life by changing Planet Earth....as a human teaching.
So if you also said, gases and light and cooling moved as spirit gases in space, the great deep on the face of water....a teaching. If you said that the movement formed O G spiral back into O split into D/D...then you did and then also taught that the human cell acted in accordance to its OWNED continuance in that movement also....to say made in the Image of, the spirit in the Heavens.
As a teaching. As a correct teaching. The reason it was taught, FALL OUT does not move as God, nor does it allow a human cell to exist, so the cell leeches chemical perfumes, the cell unnaturally bleeds and the cell unnaturally dies.
So life got scientific irradiation, for no scientist with a machine, his design owns a volition of its own. He was not speaking on behalf of any body natural. Natural is natural. He is a coercive Satanist/scientist. A human liar, who pretended to do natural but did artificial only by his control of the machine. The design, his machine cannot act on its own behalf...therefore it was not acting on behalf of any natural body that he spoke about.
Coercion is party to group mentality, to lying for self reasons, it was never for the self, one holy self, natural life. One self would never own science nor do science RATIONALLY when you impose a HOLY one human. You would and could only be natural and survive natural. What the real ONE teaching said....stop lying.
rational experiences
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If humans say the following about self, human and believe it. Parents, then great grand parents, great great grand parents, great, great, great grand parents, then in your ego self, you claim self historically is GREAT.
Then for example you might say, so humans have lived on Earth for about a million years, just for an example. And then say and before that an ape was the parent body....that would be a million years ago. And not today, where we live and survive for about 100 years in a radiation constant....survival.
So about a million years ago if a machine owner pretend button pusher claiming self is God who created everything that exists by PHI patterns on the ground which are JUST PHI patterns on the ground and not anything else, they would nearly more than likely burn out all of our ownership of natural gas mass...as a comparison to our BEGINNINGS, just a human life.
Imagine what they would do claiming and life began in a big bang blasting hot dense state and mean it....right here and right now circumstance to claim and I created you all....because you all began with an evil burnt spirit, as a human.
For that is what some scientists said in the past, the same scientists that say that quote today.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I do not doubt that the spiritual teaching in for example the bible do come from God, but the difference in the way i understand it is that man cultivated their mind and body to be able to realize Gods truth. I speak only from my understanding so others may see it differently.
Bird123
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At some point a child must expand beyond the sum of those teachings.
One must be brave enough to venture into undiscovered country to Discover what actually exists.
Forget everything you know or think you know about creation. This will end all your confusion. All the secrets of the universe stare us in the face. There is no conspiracy. Nothing is being hidden. If you are very intelligent and open minded, you might actually bump into God or figure out how. At the very least you will Discover something.
This is the best advice I can give you. This is what I would do if I were in your shoes. On the other hand, I might point but since this is your journey, your free choices are important and should always determine your course.
You have all my Love and Kindness!!
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Bird123
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If you do not doubt, then you do not question. Should not everything be questioned??
Why would God use holy books? Aren't there an endless supply of more Intelligent ways?
I think you are wise not to rely on the understandings of others. I have found no religion that actually Understands God. Your Understanding might be greater and you not know it.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Humans was writing down the spiritual teaching to remember it more easy, the teaching was first given oraly.
Personally i take the teaching that i cultivate as a guide to realize the truth, i dont blindly believe anything, but i dont go around think in i know truth better then a God or Buddha, i know i dont understand truth like Gods or Buddhas
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rational experiences
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Teachings of my conscious awareness are not any sum.
They are also not a summation, for I live just as one self. And when you become self aware as a child, you then see all the lying adults. Like I did. Say something is worthy and then have it destroyed and claim it spiritual.
So I chose to extend my own self research as a one self. So know one MEANS just the self. We are all one self. And many one selves are selfish. I wasn't.
I knew I honoured Nature, life on Earth and my family as ONE...the ideal of it, knowing that I would not own a life if everything did not exist.....the holiness of one.
Self extending beyond greed and selfishness.....achieved it.
When you do then you see clearly.
You see your brother for the scientific liar he is, claiming he creates, when he only invents. As that liar I also see how much destruction historically and in modern times he has caused as a selfish liar.....I have surely seen clearly.
What I see is that scientist self and his cult group coercive mentality try to blame humanity who sought refuge in groups beyond their families....seeing their families were murdered by science in the past. Where spiritual groups and congregations came about, for once we lived in the natural family groups.
What do you do when they all get nucleated God the Earth stone attacked and died?
But form a condition for self survival, self support and spiritual references about the reverence of the Mother, and said Earth was our Holy Mother, reverence its spirit and its holiness and do no science invention....and labour as you were born to.
Mutual group sharing is the best sort of life, congregation assisting the family and extended family working side by side.....I certainly have seen clearly, what about you?
Bird123
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Yes, writing allowed much of the teachings to pass down through the generations. On the other hand, who was doing the teaching and how was the knowledge acquired?
Since our actions reflect who we are and how we think, one can Discover Who God really is through God's actions. Since this universe and world are a creation of God, they reflect God. What can we see? Perhaps a closer look is in order.
As we look at this world we see that knowledge has never been freely given. It must be Discovered. This is an Action of God. Since, wisdom is gained along the journey to Discover knowledge, not giving knowledge freely, requiring a journey to Discovery is a very Intelligent move.
Knowledge Discovered, passing down through such things as writings, has allowed a stepping stone for future generations to expand the Discovered knowledge.
More knowledge changes the view. Some things assumed true from the past are not true at all. If one is unwilling to question everything including long held information, can one really move forward? I think not.
Look at God's world. The journey is always forward. Can one be satisfied with mere beliefs and be moving forward? I think not!!
It is always assumed that holy books come from God. Why is that? Perhaps, it is no more than an excuse to gain followers. It also gives an excuse not to take the effort it takes for real Discovery. Accepting has always been easier than Discovery.
God gave everyone a different view to guaranty mankind a larger view than any one person could have. With this in mind, is it really a good assumption that others have all the answers? I think not! For one who really searches for the Real Truth, one must be willing to venture into undiscovered country.
Religions claim to know it all yet let's look at God's creation, this world. There seems to always be an almost endless supply of new knowledge that can be Discovered. Should one not move forward?
God is much more than could be placed in any book. On the other hand, there is an almost endless supply of knowledge about God staring us all in the face through God's Actions reflected by God's creation, this world. Unlike holy books, God's Actions can not be altered by mankind. Perhaps, it's all a test of Intelligence.
So is God sending messages through holy books? I do not see it. I leopard does not change it's spots. Are holy books really an intelligent way? What about before holy books existed? It does not add up.
God's system works regardless from the beginning of time through the end. Holy books are not required. There are better ways. On the other hand, I have found some goodness in all holy books. Since they are all written by mankind, that is who they reflect. One should always take that in consideration when reading them for I have found no holy book or religion that really understands God at all.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Bird123
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In a multilevel classroom, one will see others learning lessons one has already learned. The children choosing to lie will, in time, learn that is not the best choice.
Are the children's actions an excuse to be angry, hate, condemn, blame, want payback, ruling, and wanting to control others? These are so many of petty things that mankind holds so dear. Let them Go. To reach a Higher Level you must see these things for what they are.
With Unconditional Love point them in the right direction. Place knowledge and truth in their life so it will be there when they are ready to see and understand.
Discovering on your own? Very good. On the other hand, others are part of the equation. God gave everyone a different view to guaranty mankind a larger view than any one person could have. Though you might assume others are not telling the truth, often they tell you what they Believe because they have yet to Discover the Real Truth. Be open with a wide view for you will never know when the view of one you least expect will open doors and let some light in.
Even though some people feel alone and isolated, it has always been a WE.
I find this world starving for Unconditional Love. If you give this world Unconditional Love, it will not be long before that goodness will return.
Everyone is not out to get you. Everyone struggles for Understanding just as you do. Do not allow the petty things many hold dear to corrupt your view leading you to be all those petty things.
Worry not. Kiddies can play havoc with the classroom, however they will not be allowed to destroy it.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!