...You can't compare them to Jesus. ...
Jesus did so, so I don’t have to.
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...You can't compare them to Jesus. ...
God's name is Jesus because Jesus is God. John 1:1 The Word was God. They are one!…
So you really think that God approves of the worship of people or people with higher rank? When Bathsheba died did they keep worshiping her? No to both questions. I don't think so. When Cornelius met the apostle Peter and fell at his feet and worshiped him. It says at Acts 10:25, 26
Only God was to be worship, not any person.
- But Peter raised him up, saying, 'Stand up; I too am just a man'" (NASB).
- Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'" Matt 4:10, NASB
You are trying to quate people who were called gods with Jesus the son of God. God did not ever say to worship any person. But he told the angle s to worship Jesus at Heb 1:6
Show me in the bible where God says to worship and pray to a person called god.
- And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."
If I'm dead or in heaven, yes it does. Any request made of a dead person is a prayer.
Jesus understood what the words Lord and God mean. He didn't pray to himself, or an equal.He never rebuked or corrected anyone or the scriptures that called him God.
- John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
- John 20: 28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
- Titus 2:13 “Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.
- 2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
- 2 Peter 1: 11 For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
- Rev 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
- Rev 22: 12, 13, 20 "Look! I'm coming soon. . . I am the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. . . The one who bears witness to these things says, "Yes, I'm coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! Also see Rev 1:8; 21:6
Jesus applied Psalm 82 and the word god there as he saw fit.They are obviously rulers and/or judges. Notice at verse 7 where it says that they will die. Also, the bible does not teach polytheism. But watch these videos on Psalms 82; I think they can explain it better than I can.
I have heard reasons why he did not say to the people he was God. But Jesus knew what was meant. He said he was the Son of God. Not God. He aptly replied that his accusers were terned gods. He didn't say they were not gods or that they were false gods. He did say, however, that they would die. The true God, the Almighty, does not die.He never rebuked or corrected anyone or the scriptures that called him God.
- John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
- John 20: 28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
- Titus 2:13 “Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.
- 2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
- 2 Peter 1: 11 For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
- Rev 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
- Rev 22: 12, 13, 20 "Look! I'm coming soon. . . I am the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. . . The one who bears witness to these things says, "Yes, I'm coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! Also see Rev 1:8; 21:6
He never said he was equal to his God. He said he has a God and he was going to HIM, and that this God (the 'only true God') is greater than he is. He also never said he was co-equal to two other persons and that they all three formed up one entity called the 'godhead.' So one must understand the usage of the word god in the Bible. There are many scholarly commentators of scripture, and many of them disagree on select verses, in fact, they clash with one another. Thus, as with Pharaoh, God can allow one's mind and heart to remain obstinate.He never rebuked or corrected anyone or the scriptures that called him God.
- John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
- John 20: 28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
- Titus 2:13 “Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.
- 2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
- 2 Peter 1: 11 For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
- Rev 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
- Rev 22: 12, 13, 20 "Look! I'm coming soon. . . I am the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. . . The one who bears witness to these things says, "Yes, I'm coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! Also see Rev 1:8; 21:6
Of course not. the Son prayed to the Father. You must remember that the doctrine says that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine. The fully human Jesus was praying to God.Jesus understood what the words Lord and God mean. He didn't pray to himself, or an equal.
A careful examination of the scriptures certainly does not bear that out. The One called the Father has no beginning. He is the Almighty God with no equal.
Do you realize how that sounds? The God of Jesus, yes, has always existed. That God has no equal. He does not have two co-equals called God. It is a fabrication to manufacture a triune godhead of three equal persons. John 14:28. Jesus said he was going to HIS God. Nothing at all indicates he meant he was going to two other persons, one called the Father and the other called the holy spirit. The entire concept of the trinity is absurd.
Of course not. the Son prayed to the Father. You must remember that the doctrine says that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine. The fully human Jesus was praying to God.
I don't often agree with you, but this time, I do. This made me stop and think. Prayer is conversation. Much of our spiritual practice is spent in self-conversation with our inner selves. And it is precisely that inner self where God hides within us.I can believe that it was the human side praying to the Father but the God who is His Father is right there. I believe it is more conceptually sound to say that God prays to Himself just as He swears by Himself. One might think it an act of futility except that is was by His word that God created the universe and He wasn't talking to us.
He never said he was equal to his God. He said he has a God and he was going to HIM, and that this God (the 'only true God') is greater than he is. He also never said he was co-equal to two other persons and that they all three formed up one entity called the 'godhead.' So one must understand the usage of the word god in the Bible. There are many scholarly commentators of scripture, and many of them disagree on select verses, in fact, they clash with one another. Thus, as with Pharaoh, God can allow one's mind and heart to remain obstinate.
Interesting that you want to make words of Jesus void. Jesus himself says God has given God’s name to him. It is not my idea. And as you probably know, God is called I AM WHO I AM. It is interesting if you disagree with that.
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM," and he said, "You shall tell the children of Israel this: "I AM has sent me to you."
Exodus 3:14
When Jesus says "I am" he using the name of God as it was revealed to Moses, and the Jews knew exactly what he was implying and picked up stones to kill him. This is one of the proofs that show that Jesus and God are the same "I am".
- John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I Am!”
No, he wasn't. He didn't say he was God. He was existing before Abraham. Do more research. Besides, don't you think they are two "persons" and always have been two persons?When Jesus says "I am" he using the name of God as it was revealed to Moses, and the Jews knew exactly what he was implying and picked up stones to kill him. This is one of the proofs that show that Jesus and God are the same "I am".
- John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I Am!”
No, he wasn't. He didn't say he was God. He was existing before Abraham. Do more research. Besides, don't you think they are two "persons" and always have been two persons?
Paul does the same thing, is he then also God?
No, he wasn't. He didn't say he was God. He was existing before Abraham. Do more research. Besides, don't you think they are two "persons" and always have been two persons?
You might want to go back to Psalm 82 and see that ELOHIM is applied to 'the gods' and God. Both ELOHIM. Of course, you probably don't read Hebrew, but you can find that in a good interlinear. You have to start somewhere learning the truth.When Jesus says "I am" he using the name of God as it was revealed to Moses, and the Jews knew exactly what he was implying and picked up stones to kill him. This is one of the proofs that show that Jesus and God are the same "I am".
- John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I Am!”
So -- you believe, do you, that all three 'persons' were individually and collectively there forever, without any of them coming from the other, is that right? I mean, co-equals with no beginning. Three of them. Not one person, but three.Yes, Jesus and the Father are two coequal and coeternal persons. Both the I am He, God.