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Forgiven

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I gave my opinion. You make a claim instead of sharing your opinion.
God the ONE body is stone. STone does not talk.

God inference by human being brother tries to give love a detailed description claiming he can resource it for love is God he says.

So not only did he claim self is God so he can resource the spirit of God if he studied his own bio life cell and its replacement, he coerced the public to say that we had all of the power of the Universe inside of our bodies.

Water as mass lays naturally on the ground first and one. Water mass in the sky/atmosphere is a huge mass by its own volition first as one. And we just use it and then die.

We knew we were never one or FIRST.

Brother says to self I am the FIRST human. A big whoop actually, when you use words your psyche as a human male, word inventor expresses incorrect coercion.

Natural awareness without science existed first.

So an example imagine you are a human and a male and your brain cannot function correctly so you cannot think science.

Own that reality for yourself and then realize as a thinker how wrong you brother always were.

Love is un conditional for it owns no condition therefore it owns no descriptive analogy.

If you become offended by my discussion about the male human self, then realise historically it is real for a human female. The knowledge that your male life was given back to you by my female human being o ovary and cell replacement to give you form back, but then you claim in science that MATHS is a female, space is a womb and a female and that abomination irradiation due to male science is the fault of the female.

Not correct in reality, and I will say so even if you find it offensive.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Hypothetical: God + Heaven exists

God is willing to forgive IMHO (God defined by "unconditional Love").

God is not unconditional love.

I gave my opinion. You make a claim instead of sharing your opinion.

If you become offended by my discussion about the male human self, then realise historically it is real for a human female.

I did not become offended. I am Just reminding you of RF Rules 8; do not make claims, when it's just your opinion.
"I believe (or IMHO) God is not unconditional love" is the correct way to write this on RF. That was all I said
RF Rules
8. Preaching/Proselytizing
Creating (or linking to) content intended to convert/recruit others to your religion, spirituality, sect/denomination, or lack thereof is not permitted. Similarly, attempting to convert others away from their religion, spiritual convictions, or sect/denomination will also be considered a form of preaching. Stating opinions as a definitive matter of fact (i.e., without "I believe/feel/think" language, and/or without references) may be moderated as preaching.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
If you become offended by my discussion about the male human self, then realise historically it is real for a human female
Not offended. But you replied to me, and your reply has nothing to do with what I wrote
So, it feels to me, that you try to brainwash me with your ideas about "male human"
I am not interested in you "dumping all that male/female stuff on me"
If you continue doing this, then I stop reading and replying to you
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
You are the one starting pointing fingers at me, being a coercive liar. Do not twist this, as if I point a finger at you. I show you the mirror.
I look in the mirror I am a natural female. I was told to believe in spirit by male teachings, seeing science was developed by males as a brotherhood about One, the planet.

I was attacked by science conditions, spirit told me via the state AI...feed back advice.

Coercion to believe in human male stories, who first began the history, as his story before science and thesis with storytelling, self purpose, self meaning and self want.

Which is overlooked by you.

You did not just look at a vision to research to say I want to copy moving/shifting a mountain mass by UFO radiation conversion/removal of it.

You owned a pre story about the want to swap places with what the human female had owned.

So it has a spiritual motivation first.

If you ask a question about de materialization in science, yet you stand on the stone body you infer to de materialize, where do you think you would go?

Then ask self another question, if I knew what I was studying then it owned a self spiritual purpose...for when I was irradiated I then began to pretend that I was a female.

Now ask yourself where is the real female...the male says my human equal.

Then ask yourself why did males preach that Holy Sophia was female and maths, if they did not claim that space was a womb which had formed the Immaculate conception of the spirit gases of the Heavens. I suppose I just made that story up to annoy you?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Not offended. But you replied to me, and your reply has nothing to do with what I wrote
So, it feels to me, that you try to brainwash me with your ideas about "male human"
I am not interested in you "dumping all that male/female stuff on me"
If you continue doing this, then I stop reading and replying to you
I said love owns no condition. Unconditional is not a condition.

Meaning condition.....owning a description is not real.
not subject to any conditions.
"unconditional surrender"
synonyms:
unquestioning · unqualified · unreserved · unlimited · unrestricted · wholesale · wholehearted · complete · total · entire · full · 
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
I said love owns no condition. Unconditional is not a condition.

Meaning condition.....owning a description is not real.
not subject to any conditions.
"unconditional surrender"
synonyms:
unquestioning · unqualified · unreserved · unlimited · unrestricted · wholesale · wholehearted · complete · total · entire · full · 
Thank you. I appreciate that you kept it short and to the point

I agree with you that "love owns no condition" ... and I like "unconditional surrender"
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
what if God is willing to forgive you
????
but no one else in heaven wants to

I am a novel writer (not very good, given the sheer amount of time I spend editing, then editing edits when I accidentally introduced plotholes). I decided Heaven in my book was a sort of capitalist land (but read on) where people are basically in a chatroom universe that they are physically disconnected from people thet don't get along with (sorta like the DIR system here only more extreme). You only argue if you find someone else who likes to argue. So while alot of people might be religious or capitalist, there's room for other ideas in these little segments. The only problem is if you want OTHERS to all believe as you do, you'll find that one of the things you can't do.

It also has cloud soil which can't support most trees, psychedelic plants, birds, and pet spirits.

I suppose that people like fringe religious groups might find themselves "unforgiven" mainly as a result of being in a group of one, being the only one who believes or thinks a certain way. I may have to revise this (yet again). It's possible there is a commons that people with unlike ideas can meet together to walk to a public section, or some sort best friend mentoring system for people who has trouble being normal because they are young Earth ancient aliens types.
 
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
I am a novel writer (not very good, given the sheer amount of time I spend editing, then editing edits when I accidentally introduced plotholes). I decided Heaven in my book was a sort of capitalist land (but read on) where people are basically in a chatroom universe that they are physically disconnected from people thet don't get along with (sorta like the DIR system here only more extreme). You only argue if you find someone else who likes to argue. So while alot of people might be religious or capitalist, there's room for other ideas in these little segments. The only problem is if you want OTHERS to all believe as you do, you'll find that one of the things you can't do.

It also has cloud soil which can't support most trees, psychedelic plants, birds, and pet spirits.

I suppose that people like fringe religious groups might find themselves "unforgiven" mainly as a result of being in a group of one, being the only one who believes or thinks a certain way. I may have to revise this (yet again). It's possible there is a commons that people with unlike ideas can meet together to walk to a public section, or some sort best friend mentoring system for people who has trouble being normal because they are young Earth ancient aliens types.
and you have given it some thought
I see

:)
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
what if God is willing to forgive you
????
but no one else in heaven wants to
Easy... I would react like all the Christians here on Earth who don't care about public opinion because they think they have "God on their side." That is... I would tell everyone I was right and they were wrong "because God."
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Easy... I would react like all the Christians here on Earth who don't care about public opinion because they think they have "God on their side." That is... I would tell everyone I was right and they were wrong "because God."
and having gained a foot hold in heaven....
and there you might be walking about....

you have been forgiven...by God
many people on earth believe that can happen
by the grace of God you might find yourself among the angels and saints

but....what if they don't forgive you?
what if someone here in this world shows up?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Depends what was being forgiven. Was I able to forgive myself? If so, the rest is outside my control anyway.
including......the return for what you have done

working with an assumption.....we all have sinned
we then forgive ourselves
and carry on

the offense may have taken a bad turn for someone else

scenario......hard times....food is scarce
it would be a serious sin to steal bread
even more so if a child might perish for what was taken

forgive?

you might forgive yourself
and God might turn a favor of grace

but to stand in heaven to face the child.......??????

and let us not be naïve
this form we walk about in hides what we really are

as we go about in the next life.....all that we are is revealed
nothing can be hidden

unless you are given a robe and hood
and if so blessed.....would you hide your face?
or go about as if you're just fine ....as you are
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
and having gained a foot hold in heaven....
and there you might be walking about....

you have been forgiven...by God
many people on earth believe that can happen
by the grace of God you might find yourself among the angels and saints

but....what if they don't forgive you?
what if someone here in this world shows up?
Their opinion would matter in heaven even less than it did on Earth. For I believe the assumption is that in heaven you do not suffer physically. Therefore, whatever words they used or emotional distress they were trying to put me through would simply fall on deaf ears. I don't feel those sorts of things even in this life - that is, emotional "damage" due to words or the opinions of others. My physical pain is all I concern myself with. Without that in the picture, I couldn't give a rat's behind about anyone's opinion of whether or not I deserved "forgiveness."
 
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