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Couple threatened for defending themselves agains a mob who broke in their property ?

Left Coast

Left Coast

This Is Water
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Looks like peaceful protestors, not-so-peaceful white pearl-clutchers terrified by outlets like Fox News characterizing every protest as a riot.
 
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whirlingmerc

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Left Coast said:
Looks like peaceful protestors, not-so-peaceful white pearl-clutchers terrified by outlets like Fox News characterizing every protest as a riot.
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Looks like people breaking down gates threatening people have newly discovered rights.
and resisting the mob is a crime now?

According to BuzzFeed News, a St. Louis Police report identifies the couple as the victims in the incident and the news site reports the McCloskeys called police.
 
Left Coast

Left Coast

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whirlingmerc said:
Looks like people breaking down gates threatening people have newly discovered rights.
and resisting the mob is a crime now?
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There was no "mob," that I can see. It was a protest. Nobody threatened them, that I can see. They threatened the protestors marching by their house at gunpoint.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

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whirlingmerc said:
Peaceful mob exercising their rights OR violent mob covered up by liberal media?

CNN's Cuomo vs. St. Louis Home Defender: You Are The Face Of "White Resistance" To Black Lives Matter Chris Cuomo was dismissive of the property invation.

Who is Kimberly Gardner, St. Louis prosecutor investigating gun-toting couple?
The St Louis prosecutor characterized the mob as 'peaceful protestors exercising their rights.
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I wonder.....
Suppose the KKK came into a black neighborhood intending to torch businesses & homes.
Would our pacifist liberal friends decry violent resistance to the arsonists?
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

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Left Coast said:
Looks like peaceful protestors, not-so-peaceful white pearl-clutchers terrified by outlets like Fox News characterizing every protest as a riot.
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Looks like both sides were peaceful.
Not a shot was fired.
No property was destroyed or looted.
Everyone wins.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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Revoltingest said:
I wonder.....
Suppose the KKK came into a black neighborhood intending to torch businesses & homes.
Would our pacifist liberal friends decry violent resistance to the arsonists?
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For your analogy to work, the protesters would have also intended to torch businesses and homes like the Klan in your scenario. Unless more actually happened, merely passing by a house does not constitute a threat or malicious intent.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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Father Heathen said:
For your analogy to work, the protesters would have also intended to torch businesses and homes like the Klan in your scenario. Unless more actually happened, merely passing by a house does not constitute a threat or malicious intent.
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I'm speaking to the larger issue, ie, liberals objecting to
using threat of violence to defend property. I'll wager that
they're OK with black folk defending their property against
white perps, despite opposing the reverse.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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Revoltingest said:
I'm speaking to the larger issue, ie, liberals objecting to
using threat of violence to defend property. I'll wager that
they're OK with black folk defending their property against
white perps, despite opposing the reverse.
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I don't deny there are liberals with that mindset (same sort that think minorities can't be racist), but I don't think it reflects your average liberal.
 
Left Coast

Left Coast

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Revoltingest said:
The issue is not that every protest is a riot.
It's that some protests become riots.
The risk is real....not a Fox News invention.
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It's a question of degree/type of coverage. It's also a matter of understanding that we know, for a fact, that right wing activists have actually incited violence at protests to undermine the movement. And that some people who aren't connected to BLM engage in violence, looting, etc. simply because they are opportunists.
 
Dan From Smithville

Dan From Smithville

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whirlingmerc said:
Looks like people breaking down gates threatening people have newly discovered rights.
and resisting the mob is a crime now?

According to BuzzFeed News, a St. Louis Police report identifies the couple as the victims in the incident and the news site reports the McCloskeys called police.
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There seems to be some question about the breaking of the gate and that it may have been post protest.
 
Tambourine

Tambourine

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Revoltingest said:
I'm speaking to the larger issue, ie, liberals objecting to
using threat of violence to defend property. I'll wager that
they're OK with black folk defending their property against
white perps, despite opposing the reverse.
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If you rent an apartment from somebody else, then it's not your property.

So somebody who rents an apartment wouldn't be allowed to defend their neighbourhood, as it wouldn't be their property, correct?
 
Valjean

Valjean

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Why didn't the couple just go inside and watch coverage of the demo on TV?
 
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