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Do You Believe In Fate?
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klubbhead024
Active Member
No, I don't believe in fate...or luck for that matter. Everything is 100% chance
Nothing that we can be aware of does not have meaning for a conscious mind; assigning meaning is a primary task of consciousness. Most meaning is like background noise (such is it taken for granted) but some few meanings stand out because of association with things that are important to the observer. They "speak" to the observer in a voice so loud it cannot be ignored. (I am, of course, referring to fate here as a synonym of "coincidence" or "omen".)Sunstone said:
The event's purpose is its own. Meaning is something we assign.
Fate is more often coincidence that has the appearance of circumstances manipulating themselves to do something in particular to its subject. As it appears to happen *to* a person, and they take notice, that's not something that can be unmeaningful.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
That's a good point. I was "fated" to have a bran muffin for breakfast this morning even if the majesty of the event doesn't register much notice because of the significance I attach to it.Willamena said:
I was also "fated" to meet by wonderful wife in the midst of a torrential dounpour on the Burke-Gilman trail in Seattle, Washington on March 11, 1997.
That latter one "feels" a lot more like "fate" than the bran muffin.
Radio Frequency X
World Leader Pretend
No fate. Cause and Effect, freewill, and chaos all meet somewhere in the middle to make life one interesting mess. 
Everything is fated: I'm a determinist, so it must be that way. There are variable solutions and outcomes to Events, but anything missing from the equation simply occurs @ a later time in perhaps another form or circumstance.
Put simply, you might deny fate without realizing you are fated to die one day from birth. Understand?
Put simply, you might deny fate without realizing you are fated to die one day from birth. Understand?
Comprehend
Res Ipsa Loquitur
Sunstone said:
I believe in fate. I believe most things happen by chance and free will, then there are some things we are foreordained to do but can still avoid because of free will, but I think there are some very few things that are fated. for example: I believe that we were born when and where we were because of fate.
PureX
Veteran Member
In a way, I do.Sunstone said:
It's like the woman who keeps getting involved with violent men. This is her "fate" until she becomes willing to directly address why this keeps happening to her, and to do something about it. We all have our "fate" until we're finally willing and able to directly address it. Then, with conscious and persistent effort, we can usually overcome such fate (this may, however, open the door to a new fate).
beckysoup61 said:
I agree with you, but I still believe in Fate. I find it quite acceptable to believe in God, Fate and free will.
Imagine your mortal life as starting (at birth) at the base of an old tree. As you grow up, you're 'led' by your parents, so, to some extent, you have not got many choices to make until you become a teenager.
When you are one (a teenager), is when you have reached a spot on the tree trunk where you can either carry on up the trunk, or go up anyone of the hundreds of branches - the choice is yours (your free will comes into play here), but you can choose from loads of options; you can go down one branch, decide you don't like the look of it, and go back for the trunk, and carry on straight up.
The point is, the whole tree is already there, with all the temptations, all the possibilities of what you might chose to do already mapped out. Does that make sense ? It is as if all your potential 'fates' are "there" as you are born.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
I believe in fate only in the sense that GOD wills something to occur in your life.
For example, the fact that my husband and I met and married and had children.
I can so do the whole melodramtic hand on my forehead..."It was fate", thing. (And I have. )
My definition of FATE is "God willed this and allowed this."
For example, the fact that my husband and I met and married and had children.
I can so do the whole melodramtic hand on my forehead..."It was fate", thing. (And I have.
)My definition of FATE is "God willed this and allowed this."
EnhancedSpirit
High Priestess
FATE is the consequences of previous actions, FATE is the same as Karma. And you may or may not believe in it, but your belief does not stop it from affecting your life, moment by moment, and day by day.