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SoulTYPE01 said:OMG I thought this thread was long dead. Oh well.
May, you just stated and explained everything I wished to know regarding this matter. Thankyou.
I have to disagree with you may, what of the Kabbalistic writings that the serpent is, in fact, Adam's first wife, Lilith?may said:
This original opposer, or Satan (meaning "Resister"), was the one who used a serpent as a mouthpiece when speaking to Eve to induce her to disobey God. (Genesis 3:1-6) That is why he is also called "the original serpent." (Revelation 12:9) Jesus himself said of Satan: "That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him." (John 8:44; 1 John 3:8) Jesus thus identified Satan as one who once enjoyed Gods favor but who rebelled against Jehovah God.
I am basing my theories on the Genesis report.jewscout said:I have to disagree with you may, what of the Kabbalistic writings that the serpent is, in fact, Adam's first wife, Lilith?
My belief is only based on the bible , as i believe that only the bible is the word of Godjewscout said:I have to disagree with you may, what of the Kabbalistic writings that the serpent is, in fact, Adam's first wife, Lilith?
He's right. The word/name/title "satan" does not appear in the scriptures in Genesis. And just because it says "serpent" in Revelation, a question need to be asked. How do we know that both are one and the same?may said:Satan (meaning "resister") and Devil (meaning "slanderer").
This original opposer, or Satan (meaning "Resister"), was the one who used a serpent as a mouthpiece when speaking to Eve to induce her to disobey God. (Genesis 3:1-6) That is why he is also called "the original serpent." (Revelation 12:9) Jesus himself said of Satan: "That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him." (John 8:44; 1 John 3:8) Jesus thus identified Satan as one who once enjoyed Gods favor but who rebelled against Jehovah God.
And I totally agree with you Maize. Satan is symbology, and he is not an actuall spiritual being. He symbolizes narcissism, egoism, selfishness, which is the source and motive behind every human downfall, every sin. If you study the reason why people sin, you will see notice a patturn, and a commonality that makes all sin the same, because the intent makes it the same. The bible even states that ALL sin is the same in God's eyes. He looks not at the work, but at the MOTIVES.Maize said:They're assuming Satan is a real being. I don't buy that.
EXACTLY!SoulTYPE01 said:So basically Oracle, you are saying that Satan is a state of mind, that creates us to act out the sin within us?
Which loon is that?No*s said:As for the fellow you heard, I think he's a loon..
SoulTYPE01 said:Which loon is that?
oracle said:Perhaps we are the "fallen angels" that fell to earth because of Satan (ego), and God is trying to cleanse us. That was an old theory of mine. However I'm not sure whether that is consitent with other parts of scripture. It was just a thought that popped into my head.
Also I would consider Satan as a "defect", or rather "Birth pangs" of creation. Man is not perfect because God is not finished creating us.