Why do we keep fighting about who is right and who is wrong?

Israel Khan said:

What I was referencing was not their quote though. I was referring to Genesis 1.

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God says a male is HE.

As GOD in one thinking position is the ST ONE....He proves that he is incorrect...for making euphemism, or quoting like or because of my own self, presence, a male with a penis....claiming human, but penis. To then quote GOD the stone O planet erecting that comparison as a volcano says it all.

You are just wrong, always were wrong...you can only be your owned self as a HE or a HIM or a MAN or a MALE.

God in science was a planet...and with that planet self was converted...and factually and historically the Nature Garden existed first.....why you then had to involve what occurred to its body.....seeing science was about forcing change upon natural.

The theme, historic.....I want the eternal. Not I am the eternal.....for the I am does not state eternal.

Right and wrong should not be a matter of a blame game. It's very difficult to be right.

The only places for binary right and wrong answers is with knowable facts, and matters of good vs. evil. I think everything else is an open discussion.

Facts you have to deal with. Sometimes there is a lot of philosophy shoved into the representation of facts and it all has to be sorted out to reveal just the facts.

Things such as spirituality are often subject to interpretation. Very difficult to get the actual interpretation as meant when so many people change, add or subtract to the original message.

If it holds significant meaning for you and makes a big difference in your life for the better how can it be all wrong. It can't.

We create meaning for ourselves through our understanding. This is not a matter of right and wrong until the matter reaches into basic good vs. evil. Or the meaning contradicts facts of reality.

Aside from good vs. evil and facts of reality there seems to be a lot of unexplored territory. Perhaps there is a lot of freedoms to discover within self being.

If every human living today said....I came from sperm out of a male adult life body, human. And with the human female adult life body, ovary, was conceived and then lived.

Knowing not ever would you be the 2 parents living before you. Science in philosophy never owned any connection to the 2 human being parents that they discuss in literature.

For every single human living today came from sperm and an ovary....as self presence.

We become a baby, grow back into being an adult...live and then die like we witness our parents becoming....removed from consciousness.

Life therefore is given a teaching conscious.

Hence it is titled human consciousness....only in human form, owned by human form, expressed by human form....the only truth.

Try and placate your owned consciousness elsewhere is lying.

Amanaki said:

Each spiritual teaching holds it's truth, the truth realized by the founder, but we as practitioners see only the truth we our self realizing through practicing the teaching we chose to learn and understand, as long we are practicing we can not see or understand the teaching on a higher wisdom level. But only up to the level we our self has realized.

1: So why do we keep telling others they are wrong? Does our own understanding become the only right because we believe in that teaching?
2: Should we not be more focused on our own path? And not about what others follow or believe in?
3: can it be that what others belive or say holds a deeper understanding of truth than what we ourself do, so we can not see higher truth yet? And therefor not understand those who have realized more then ourself?

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I think what some people call fighting is not really fighting, but merely disagreeing.
I think what happens sometimes, is that some people think they have what others need to accept, and when they disagree, or present something that contradicts, or challenges that person's view, because the person 'so believes' they have the true wisdom, they feel a bit offended, and describe the person's offering an opposing alternative, as fighting.

I really think though, it's the case that the person is not really sure that they have true wisdom, but they want to believe it, or they convince themselves, so when someone presents something that calls that "wisdom" into question, the person feels threatened, since they would rather the person listen to them, and accept what they say.

Sometimes the person is not fully aware this is happening to them, and it's usually because they are misled - not necessarily by flesh.
A good example of this is found in the Christian Greek scriptures.
(John 9:24-34; Acts 26:4, 5)

Some of these men actually believed strongly, but they failed to realize their blindness.
"I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. For because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God." (Romans 10:2, 3)

Why do we argue over who is right and who is wrong? Because truth matters.

IndigoChild5559 said:

Why do we argue over who is right and who is wrong? Because truth matters.

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But is your truth better then others? Or can it be that everything is just out from our own understanding truth? Is your understanding of truth better or just different then my understanding of what is truth to each one of us?

Amanaki said:

But is your truth better then others? Or can it be that everything is just out from our own understanding truth? Is your understanding of truth better or just different then my understanding of what is truth to each one of us?

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Better is the wrong word. The question is, is my statement true and their false. Or, is my way of wording things closer to what is actually the truth (the way that Einstein's physics are more nearly true than Newton's).

I think that when it comes to problem solving, there can be more than one way to do things. But when it comes to reality, reality is objective, not subjective. Therefore, if two statements are made about the same thing and conflict, they cannot both be true. They can both be false (or only partly true at best) or one can be true and the other false. For example, if I say the the ball is green, and you say the same ball is red, we cannot both be correct. One of us is probably color blind.

IndigoChild5559 said:

Better is the wrong word. The question is, is my statement true and their false. Or, is my way of wording things closer to what is actually the truth (the way that Einstein's physics are more nearly true than Newton's).

I think that when it comes to problem solving, there can be more than one way to do things. But when it comes to reality, reality is objective, not subjective. Therefore, if two statements are made about the same thing and conflict, they cannot both be true. They can both be false (or only partly true at best) or one can be true and the other false. For example, if I say the the ball is green, and you say the same ball is red, we cannot both be correct. One of us is probably color blind.

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The truth spoke of has only to do with spiritual truth to do

Amanaki said:

But is your truth better then others?

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No. But if only one of us can be right, I want to be the one. Truth matters to me. Thus, to determine if I am right or my interlocutor, we have to talk it out. And if it turns out that I was wrong, I can be right tomorrow.
This only applies to questions that can be determined to be true or false. A debate is the appropriate form to find the truth. Sometimes there are multiple right answers and the goal would be to find a fitting answer, which must not be the same for everybody. These questions are better dealt with in a discussion.

Amanaki said:

The truth spoke of has only to do with spiritual truth to do

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Why would spiritual truth be any different? Truth is truth.

IndigoChild5559 said:

Why would spiritual truth be any different? Truth is truth.

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I don't see human world as true anymore, our realm does not hold the actual truth anymore. This is why I said spiritual truth

Amanaki said:

I don't see human world as true anymore, our realm does not hold the actual truth anymore. This is why I said spiritual truth

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So you live in a psychotic world?

When science says I own a theme written as a lot of symbols about how we exist...he lied.

Our 2 human being parents were self life owned/present as 2 human beings, had sex and we live as a baby to an adult life.

No human can talk science about how a life was created, for then he would believe that life was invented.

Which is why Stephen Hawking said our brother the evil science theist wants to replace our bio life with all machine inventions...as if machines should take precedence over life existing.

No machine exists, and it never owned natural existence.

We exist and live....a machine does not live.

Before our life is each and every presence that owns self presence or end. And hence medical biological science said no beginning, for if you imposed in science that it did not yet exist, then you would destroy it. RELATIVITY.

What is relative....means, interactive family of natural spiritual bodies and self presence.

Relativity in science is not even real......reactive conversion is science.

Arguing over life being owned and natural is why we argue...for science always tried to claim that it invented us by a written formula. As a human making all claims.

That condition was inferred to be the man of the apostasy...who did not believe in the physical mass presence of O one...the Earth God.....with whatever title you wanted to name the planet entity.....as Creator entity of all of its spirit gases.

We argue against science factually...for science tried to claim that a spiritual life did not exist. And we live the spiritual life as a human, in natural conditions.