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Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

rrobs

Well-Known Member
I do. The NT never says anything to prohibit or exclude "doing" something, as a part of getting saved.
It only prohibits works. So "doing" something is perfectly in line with God's word.
Yes, we must "do" something to be saved. What we "do" is Romans 10:9-10, i.e. we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our hearts that God raised him from the dead.
 

rrobs

Well-Known Member
* Those in (Mt. 7:21-23) was not worried about eternity.

T
hey were confident they were saved.

The Lord denied they had a relationship with Him and called them "lawless" people.

Those who deny we are under law best take notice.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (or lawlessness).


When the Lord mentions Lawlessness or iniquity He is telling men sin was their problem

(Rom. 3:23) (Rom. 6:23) (Isa. 59:1,2)

Grace teaches men how to please the Lord (Titus 2:11,12) (1Thess. 4:1-3).

11. For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12. Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Thanks
All true.

My speaking in tongues and doing the other works Jesus said we'd do (John 14:10, 1 Cor 12:3) is proof positive that I am saved and at this moment sitting at the right hand of God with Jesus (Eph 2:6), It is truly a wonderful life! What's to worry about with God on your side? Nothing!

Rom 8:31-39,

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.

34 Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.​

See why I'm not worried?
 

Nova2216

Active Member
Yes, we must "do" something to be saved. What we "do" is Romans 10:9-10, i.e. we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our hearts that God raised him from the dead.

What about repentance (Luke 13:3)

except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Must we repent to be saved?
 

Nova2216

Active Member
All true.

My speaking in tongues and doing the other works Jesus said we'd do (John 14:10, 1 Cor 12:3) is proof positive that I am saved and at this moment sitting at the right hand of God with Jesus (Eph 2:6), It is truly a wonderful life! What's to worry about with God on your side? Nothing!

Rom 8:31-39,

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.

34 Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.​

See why I'm not worried?


Those in (Mt.7:21-23) was not worried either.
 

Nova2216

Active Member
All true.

My speaking in tongues and doing the other works Jesus said we'd do (John 14:10, 1 Cor 12:3) is proof positive that I am saved and at this moment sitting at the right hand of God with Jesus (Eph 2:6), It is truly a wonderful life! What's to worry about with God on your side? Nothing!

Rom 8:31-39,

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.

34 Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.​

See why I'm not worried?


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Miracles were never a sign someone was saved.

A donkey spoke in a tongue once, was the animal saved? (Num.22:28)

28 And the LORD opened the mouth of the ***, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?


Miracles were to confirm the speaker and the message was approved of God (Mark 16:20) (Heb.2:3,4).


confirming the word with signs following. (Mark 16:20


3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? (Heb.2:3,4)


Miracles are a topic for another thread.
 

rrobs

Well-Known Member
What about
repentance (Luke 13:3)

except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Must we repent to be saved?
From Strong's Concordance:
G3340 μετανοέω metanoeo (me-ta-no-e'-ō) v.
1. to have a change of mind and heart, i.e. to reconsider and relent.
2. (morally) to have remorse and repent.
I'd say that pretty much mirrors Romans 10:9-10, so yes we do have a change of mind from that of the flesh to that of the spirit. We are told in many places to renew our minds which means to change our thinking to agree with God. In the case of the new birth it means to stop doing works and start believing in grace.
 

e.r.m.

Church of Christ
Yes, we must "do" something to be saved. What we "do" is Romans 10:9-10, i.e. we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our hearts that God raised him from the dead.
Well great, we agree on something. That's at least part of it.
 

e.r.m.

Church of Christ
I totally agree. The main thrust of Romans is salvation, not by works, but by grace. That is exemplified in Romans 10:9-10 and that is the doctrine that must be obeyed.

2 Tim 1:9,

who did save us, and did call with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, that was given to us in Christ Jesus, before the times of the ages,​
Romans 10:9-10 does not mention works or grace. 2 Tim 1:9 does. That is certainly one of the doctrines that must be obeyed.
 

rrobs

Well-Known Member
*
Miracles were never a sign someone was saved.

A donkey spoke in a tongue once, was the animal saved? (Num.22:28)

28 And the LORD opened the mouth of the ***, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

Miracles were to confirm the speaker and the message was approved of God (Mark 16:20) (Heb.2:3,4).

confirming the word with signs following. (Mark 16:20

3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? (Heb.2:3,4)

Miracles are a topic for another thread.
There is more in the scriptures than the donkey in Numbers. You are trying to build a doctrinal system on one or two verses. Never a good idea.

1 Cor 12:3,

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
The context is spiritual matters, including the manifestations of the gift of holy spirit. Tongues (and the other eight) are manifestations, not gifts.

1 Cor 12:7-10,

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:​

If you look carefully you will see that Jesus did 7 of the 9 manifestations (tongues and interpretation of tongues were not available when Jesus lived here). I already showed you that Jesus said we'd do the works he did and even greater works. The works are not talking about getting saved, but about the good works God prepared for us to do after salvation.

Eph 2:10,

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Many Christians say, "Lord, I believe" but they don't walk as though they believe. They are spiritually week. They make a show of righteousness and piety, but it is a righteousness they attempt to establish for themselves and is therefore dead. Jesus claimed to be a complete savior, but too many don't really believe him and set out to do their own good works as though Jesus didn't really know what he was talking about. Of that, they should definitely repent, i.e. change their thinking.
 

Nova2216

Active Member
There is more in the scriptures than the donkey in Numbers. You are trying to build a doctrinal system on one or two verses. Never a good idea.

1 Cor 12:3,

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
The context is spiritual matters, including the manifestations of the gift of holy spirit. Tongues (and the other eight) are manifestations, not gifts.

1 Cor 12:7-10,

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:​

If you look carefully you will see that Jesus did 7 of the 9 manifestations (tongues and interpretation of tongues were not available when Jesus lived here). I already showed you that Jesus said we'd do the works he did and even greater works. The works are not talking about getting saved, but about the good works God prepared for us to do after salvation.

Eph 2:10,

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Many Christians say, "Lord, I believe" but they don't walk as though they believe. They are spiritually week. They make a show of righteousness and piety, but it is a righteousness they attempt to establish for themselves and is therefore dead. Jesus claimed to be a complete savior, but too many don't really believe him and set out to do their own good works as though Jesus didn't really know what he was talking about. Of that, they should definitely repent, i.e. change their thinking.



Nova - * I posted (Num, 22:28) in which a donkey spoke by the Holy Spirit and you used your patented answer.

Rob - "There is more in the scriptures than the donkey in Numbers. You are trying to build a doctrinal system on one or two verses. Never a good idea.

Nova - I would call this a DEFLECTION. You're getting very good at that.

You say I am trying to build a doctrine on one or two scriptures.

Friend, the word of God is so powerful it only takes one scriptures for a doctrine to be correct.

If you cannot heal the dead which has been dead for three days I do not want to hear your claims.

Where's the BEEF?

I can "baby talk" with the best of them but that is not speaking in a tongue as was done in the first century.

(Acts 2:6,8,10)

vs 6 every man heard them speak in his own language.

vs 8 hear we every man in our own tongue


At least the donkey spoke in a tongue in which a man could understand.
(Num. 22:28)



Thanks
 
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Nova2216

Active Member
From Strong's Concordance:
G3340 μετανοέω metanoeo (me-ta-no-e'-ō) v.
1. to have a change of mind and heart, i.e. to reconsider and relent.
2. (morally) to have remorse and repent.
I'd say that pretty much mirrors Romans 10:9-10, so yes we do have a change of mind from that of the flesh to that of the spirit. We are told in many places to renew our minds which means to change our thinking to agree with God. In the case of the new birth it means to stop doing works and start believing in grace.

* You seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place.


Here is Gods definition of repentance (Mt.21:28).

28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. 29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. 30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not. 31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first.


Notice how the Lord shows how obedience is included in repentance.

That is so hard for you to accept b/c of what you have been taught (faith alone). It's obvious your jumping through hoops to try and hold on to your false doctrines.

Thats why you DEFLECT.


Thanks
 
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e.r.m.

Church of Christ
* You seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place.


Here is Gods definition of repentance (Mt.21:28).

28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. 29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. 30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not. 31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first.


Notice how the Lord shows how obedience is included in repentance.

That is so hard for you to accept b/c of what you have been taught (faith alone). It's obvious your jumping through hoops to try and hold on to your false doctrines.

Thats why you DEFLECT.


Thanks
Luke 3:8-14 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. [9] The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.” [10] “What should we do then?” the crowd asked. [11] John answered, “Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same.” [12] Even tax collectors came to be baptized. “Teacher,” they asked, “what should we do?” [13] “Don't collect any more than you are required to,” he told them. [14] Then some soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?” He replied, “Don't extort money and don't accuse people falsely---be content with your pay.”

According to John the Baptist, repentance wasn't just about changing one's mind, and Jesus came on the heals of this, preaching
Matthew 4:17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
 
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Nova2216

Active Member
From Strong's Concordance:
G3340 μετανοέω metanoeo (me-ta-no-e'-ō) v.
1. to have a change of mind and heart, i.e. to reconsider and relent.
2. (morally) to have remorse and repent.
I'd say that pretty much mirrors Romans 10:9-10, so yes we do have a change of mind from that of the flesh to that of the spirit. We are told in many places to renew our minds which means to change our thinking to agree with God. In the case of the new birth it means to stop doing works and start believing in grace.

I noticed the word "relent" in your post.

Please notice its a verb below.


re·lent
/rəˈlent/

Learn to pronounce

verb
verb: relent; 3rd person present: relents; past tense: relented; past participle: relented; gerund or present participle: relenting
abandon or mitigate a harsh intention or cruel treatment.
"she was going to refuse his request, but relented"
h
Similar:
change one's mind
do a U-turn


It seems you still have the same problem in (Rom.10:9,10).

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

I do believe confession is something done by man. (action)

Another thing is confession and repentance are two totally different things. Both are things men do to be saved.

Can a man be saved without doing them?

...except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:3)
 

rrobs

Well-Known Member
Nova - * I posted (Num, 22:28) in which a donkey spoke by the Holy Spirit and you used your patented answer.

Rob - "There is more in the scriptures than the donkey in Numbers. You are trying to build a doctrinal system on one or two verses. Never a good idea.

Nova - I would call this a DEFLECTION. You're getting very good at that.

You say I am trying to build a doctrine on one or two scriptures.

Friend, the word of God is so powerful it only takes one scriptures for a doctrine to be correct.

If you cannot heal the dead which has been dead for three days I do not want to hear your claims.

Where's the BEEF?

I can "baby talk" with the best of them but that is not speaking in a tongue as was done in the first century.

(Acts 2:6,8,10)

vs 6 every man heard them speak in his own language.

vs 8 hear we every man in our own tongue

At least the donkey spoke in a tongue in which a man could understand.
(Num. 22:28)

Thanks
You are right about "baby talk" not being speaking in tongues. There is plenty in the scriptures on the subject, but few take the time and effort to really understand the manifestations of the spirit. It begins by calling them "gifts" whereas the scriptures call them "manifestations." There is a huge difference between a gift and a manifestation. I've found few are even willing to consider the difference if they are already entrenched in tradition. I bet even you yourself will call tongues a "gift" at some point in the future, completely ignoring the scripture I showed you that called it a manifestation. It's sad how many Christians have little real respect for God's word.

While it is true that those present on the Day of Pentecost understood the words spoken by the Apostles, the Apostles themselves did not understand what they spoke. This fits with Corinthinians.

1Cor 14:2,

For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
The speaker is the one who does not understand. It is not impossible for someone in the audience to understand if they happen to speak the language.

btw, I'd be glad to minister healing to you if you have a need and want to see the beef.
 
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rrobs

Well-Known Member
I noticed the word "relent" in your post.

Please notice its a verb below.

re·lent
/rəˈlent/

Learn to pronounce

verb
verb: relent; 3rd person present: relents; past tense: relented; past participle: relented; gerund or present participle: relenting
abandon or mitigate a harsh intention or cruel treatment.
"she was going to refuse his request, but relented"
h
Similar:
change one's mind
do a U-turn

It seems you still have the same problem in (Rom.10:9,10).

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

I do believe confession is something done by man. (action)

Another thing is confession and repentance are two totally different things. Both are things men do to be saved.

Can a man be saved without doing them?

...except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:3)
I would agree that believing and confessing are things we "do" to be saved. As you said they are verbs, and the scriptures are clear we need to "do" both.

I thought you we were talking about the necessity of water baptism to be saved. That is the specific "work" that I don't see the scriptures requiring to be saved. I think in general we've wandered down many avenues not related to the OP. I don't mind, just pointing it out. I like talking about anything in the scriptures. I'm hooked on them.

God bless
 

Nova2216

Active Member
I would agree that believing and confessing are things we "do" to be saved. As you said they are verbs, and the scriptures are clear we need to "do" both.

I thought you we were talking about the necessity of water baptism to be saved. That is the specific "work" that I don't see the scriptures requiring to be saved. I think in general we've wandered down many avenues not related to the OP. I don't mind, just pointing it out. I like talking about anything in the scriptures. I'm hooked on them.

God bless

So you do not believe and teach a faith only salvation?
 

Nova2216

Active Member
You are right about "baby talk" not being speaking in tongues. There is plenty in the scriptures on the subject, but few take the time and effort to really understand the manifestations of the spirit. It begins by calling them "gifts" whereas the scriptures call them "manifestations." There is a huge difference between a gift and a manifestation. I've found few are even willing to consider the difference if they are already entrenched in tradition. I bet even you yourself will call tongues a "gift" at some point in the future, completely ignoring the scripture I showed you that called it a manifestation. It's sad how many Christians have little real respect for God's word.

While it is true that those present on the Day of Pentecost understood the words spoken by the Apostles, the Apostles themselves did not understand what they spoke. This fits with Corinthinians.

1Cor 14:2,

For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
The speaker is the one who does not understand. It is not impossible for someone in the audience to understand if they happen to speak the language.

btw, I'd be glad to minister healing to you if you have a need and want to see the beef.



* Do you go to the hospital and heal people? You could save them alot of money.

Have you ever raised the dead (in a graveyard)?

Can you walk on water like Peter?


A Pentecostal has already tried to heal me. It did not work. He was a TV evangelist. I knew it was not going to work but he tried.




Thanks
 

e.r.m.

Church of Christ
I would agree that believing and confessing are things we "do" to be saved. As you said they are verbs, and the scriptures are clear we need to "do" both.

I thought you we were talking about the necessity of water baptism to be saved. That is the specific "work" that I don't see the scriptures requiring to be saved. I think in general we've wandered down many avenues not related to the OP. I don't mind, just pointing it out. I like talking about anything in the scriptures. I'm hooked on them.

God bless
That is the specific "work" that I don't see the scriptures requiring to be saved ...I like talking about anything in the scriptures.

This is the "by grace alone, through faith alone" paradigm teaching, and not "scriptures". "Scripture" never refers to baptism a work. "Scripture" never refers to works as just "anything you do".
This emerges "only" from the by grace alone, through faith alone paradigm. That's why we need to follow only the scriptures, because the by grace alone, through faith alone paradigm chronically says different things than what is written in the scriptures. We will be judged by God's word John 11:48-50, not by what that paradigm says. The scriptures "alone" paint a different picture and give their own message.
Scriptures
Mark 16:16
Acts 2:38-39
Romans 6:4-7
Acts 22:16
1 Peter 3:20-21

do explicitly state baptism as a part of getting saved/forgiven.

This is not at its core an issue of baptism, but one of following God's word.
 
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rrobs

Well-Known Member
* Do you go to the hospital and heal people? You could save them alot of money.

Have you ever raised the dead (in a graveyard)?

Can you walk on water like Peter?

A Pentecostal has already tried to heal me. It did not work. He was a TV evangelist. I knew it was not going to work but he tried.

Thanks
I'm sorry your healing didn't go well. I would like to offer some suggestions. I hope you take it in the spirit in which I give it. I really do care. I understand physical healing can be a difficult thing when someone is in pain or otherwise ailing. But God is bigger that any disease or ailment. There is hope

The thing that really stuck out in your post was, "I knew it was not going to work..."
It reminds me of the record where a father brought his possessed son to Jesus for healing.

Mark 9:23-24,

23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things [are] possible to him that believeth.
24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
All things are possible with believing. There are several other verses that say just that. The father was humble and said exactly how he must have felt. He clearly wanted to believe but he knew deep down that he harbored some doubt so he asked Jesus to help him with that. Of course Jesus was more than willing to help and ended up curing the man's son.

I'm afraid your idea on your healing is in direct opposition to God's word. I don't mean to criticize or condemn. That would not help anything. I just mean to point out some things in God's word regarding healing.

1Pet 2:24,

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
God declares you to be healed by the stripes Jesus bore on the cross. I perfectly understand that your doctor may have said something different. I also understand the difficulty of believing God healed someone when an x-ray shows otherwise.

I had melanoma on my head. It was getting worse rather quickly. I had terrible looking lesions on my head which I saw every time I looked in the mirror. One day it suddenly came to me to say, "Well, am I going to believe my own two eyes or God?" That moment I decided I would ignore my own two eyes and believe God. I remembered a minister tell me, "God's word is true even if it never comes to pass." I decided that I was going to go with that instead of the doctors. I confessed I was healed and that was that. I didn't care how things looked to my eyes, I was going with God and ignore what I (and the doctors) thought about my disease. The very next day, a little piece of the scabby stuff flaked off. That continued for about a week at which point the skin that was once melanoma infected was as smooth as a baby's behind.

I'm not sure how that Pentecostal ministered to you, but had he really been tuned in to God, he probably would have known about your unbelief and set about to change it into belief by teaching all the places in the scriptures that talk about health and healing. The scriptures say that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, the scriptures.

I know that it can be hard to ignore one's symptoms that obviously show a big problem. But God is bigger than that and He will help with any doubt you have regarding your healing. He votes for you to be healed. The devil votes for you to be sick. You break the tie.

Of course, at some point we do stop believing and that is when we go to sleep. Regardless of what happens in the here an now, we are guaranteed a brand new body just like the one Jesus had after his resurrection (Phil 3:21). That will occur when he returns and at that point we will have no doubt, sickness, disease, etc. That will happen independently of our belief. Jesus is coming back and will change our bodies whether we believe it or not. It is a promise God made, and He will be absolutely faithful in performing it. That's our hope.

Do not let the devil condemn you by telling you your faith is inadequate. If you feel that way, just ask God to help your unbelief. As much as possible keep your mind on the things of God and off your own self. It's not easy, but God is in the business of making the difficult into easy.

If there is anything at all I can do for you, please let me know. You are a wonderful child of God and you deserve the best. Remember, you and God form a majority that can overrule any of the fiery darts the devil may throw your way. Just think of the witness of God's power will be when He heals you. It'll be fantastic.

God bless.
 
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