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Another one of them proofs for God.

ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Prophetic_Response said:
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Romans 1:20‭-‬22 NIV

The invisible qualities of God are clearly seen and understood through creation so that atheists are without excuse.

The number one reason for professing atheism has nothing to do w/ facts, proof or logic, but rather a hard heart and carnal mind in hostility toward Christ. In other words, the love of sin that is part of our fallen nature.

Atheists don't disbelieve in God, they hate God.

Many young and impressionable kids are deceived through the public school system to believe the lies of evolution, which is the gateway to atheism. After years of indoctrination with lies and half-truths, those who reject Christ are puffed up w/ pride w/ what is falsely called knowledge.

(I believe) every atheist will stand before God on judgment day. I emplore you to search your own heart and analyze your own motives. You can win 100 arguments with a 100 Christians and it will not save you from the wrath to come.

In your heart you know what is right, no matter how well you guard it, even from yourself b/c God has written His moral law on every heart to bear witness to the Truth.
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Lots and lots of claims there, for which you have provided not one jot of supporting evidence or reasoning.
 
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night912

Well-Known Member
Prophetic_Response said:
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Romans 1:20‭-‬22 NIV

The invisible qualities of God are clearly seen and understood through creation so that atheists are without excuse.

The number one reason for professing atheism has nothing to do w/ facts, proof or logic, but rather a hard heart and carnal mind in hostility toward Christ. In other words, the love of sin that is part of our fallen nature.

Atheists don't disbelieve in God, they hate God.

Many young and impressionable kids are deceived through the public school system to believe the lies of evolution, which is the gateway to atheism. After years of indoctrination with lies and half-truths, those who reject Christ are puffed up w/ pride w/ what is falsely called knowledge.

(I believe) every atheist will stand before God on judgment day. I emplore you to search your own heart and analyze your own motives. You can win 100 arguments with a 100 Christians and it will not save you from the wrath to come.

In your heart you know what is right, no matter how well you guard it, even from yourself b/c God has written His moral law on every heart to bear witness to the Truth.
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And your evidence for these claims are.......?
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Prophetic_Response said:
Lots of reasoning.
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I see no reasoning, just a lot of assertions. If it's reasoning, what are your premises? What are the logical steps?

Prophetic_Response said:
You have presented nothing to disprove it.
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You're still having trouble with the burden of proof, I see. If you make assertions it isn't anybody else's job to disprove them, it's your job to provide reasons to take them seriously.
 
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night912

Well-Known Member
Prophetic_Response said:
Lots of reasoning. You have presented nothing to disprove it.
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This actually disproves it.

[Quran 3.78] Most surely there is a party amongst those who distort the Book with their tongue that you may consider it to be (a part) of the Book, and they say, It is from Allah, while it is not from Allah, and they tell a lie against Allah whilst they know.
 
Prophetic_Response

Prophetic_Response

Member
ratiocinator said:
I see no reasoning, just a lot of assertions. If it's reasoning, what are your premises? What are the logical steps?



You're still having trouble with the burden of proof, I see. If you make assertions it isn't anybody else's job to disprove them, it's your job to provide reasons to take them seriously.
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I did. I provided Scripture and reasoning. It's your choice if you want to disregard it completely w/ nothing in response.
 
Prophetic_Response

Prophetic_Response

Member
night912 said:
This actually disproves it.

[Quran 3.78] Most surely there is a party amongst those who distort the Book with their tongue that you may consider it to be (a part) of the Book, and they say, It is from Allah, while it is not from Allah, and they tell a lie against Allah whilst they know.
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Lol that's funny. You know the Bible and Quran at at odds w/ each other (I believe), right?

I didn't know I was debating a Muslim.
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Prophetic_Response said:
I did. I provided Scripture and reasoning.
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I saw scripture but no reasoning or evidence. And as before, scripture (or any other source you want to quote) isn't an argument in itself - you have to point out why we should take it seriously. You've just dismissed another "holy" book (the Quran) without any reasoning, so you're being incredibly hypocritical if you just expect people to accept the bible.

If you think it's authoritative, try Matthew 7:5.
 
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