Doubts

Salaams all,

As a revert having rejected the concept of the trinity I still struggle with certain accounts both in the Qur'an and the OT, such as the practicalities regarding the flood and also Yunus. Often wonder whether all is to be taken literally or whether some is metaphorical?

Joseph Stephen said:

Salaams all,

As a revert having rejected the concept of the trinity I still struggle with certain accounts both in the Qur'an and the OT, such as the practicalities regarding the flood and also Yunus. Often wonder whether all is to be taken literally or whether some is metaphorical?

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The Catholic Church does not believe in nor teach scriptural literalness, and Thomas Aquinas was one our teachers who strongly felt that there are human elements, thus some human errors, in the Bible. Thus, accepting the Creation, the Flood, and the Fall narratives as allegory is very much allowed.


Oops, since this is an Islam DIR, I'll only post the above as clarification, thus not discussion nor debate. If a moderator wants to remove this, feel free.

Joseph Stephen said:

Salaams all,

As a revert having rejected the concept of the trinity I still struggle with certain accounts both in the Qur'an and the OT, such as the practicalities regarding the flood and also Yunus. Often wonder whether all is to be taken literally or whether some is metaphorical?

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Once you come to terms with the real shape of the earth the practicalities of the flood are easier to understand.

Sahih International: And after that He spread the earth.
Surah 79:30

The idea of being expanded can imply a hidden volume.

Joseph Stephen said:

Salaams all,

As a revert having rejected the concept of the trinity I still struggle with certain accounts both in the Qur'an and the OT, such as the practicalities regarding the flood and also Yunus. Often wonder whether all is to be taken literally or whether some is metaphorical?

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As far as the Qur'an is concerned the flood story of Noah and the fish story of Jonah both were real .

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Roger that Chief .

Joseph Stephen said:

Salaams all,

As a revert having rejected the concept of the trinity I still struggle with certain accounts both in the Qur'an and the OT, such as the practicalities regarding the flood and also Yunus. Often wonder whether all is to be taken literally or whether some is metaphorical?

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The case of Jonah , the companion of fish .
Noah's flood - Can it be still superfluous ?

Joseph Stephen said:

Salaams all,


As a revert having rejected the concept of the trinity I still struggle with certain accounts both in the Qur'an and the OT, such as the practicalities regarding the flood and also Yunus. Often wonder whether all is to be taken literally or whether some is metaphorical?

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Hi Joseph ,


Well Regarding Noah Flood the holy Quran Clearly repeatedly tells us the flood was on the Noah Tribe Alone, but still it hints that the people on the Ark are ones who survived in general, So it may suggest that the Noah and his tribe were from the first And Oldest tribes in human history and thus there were No Other human tribes then, just a suggestion,


Only God knows best.



As for the Prophet Yunus peace be upon him, the holy Quran clearly states that he spent time in the whale’s stomach, and then he got out by God’s mercy but he was very ill due to the time he spent in the whale’s stomach which of course had harmful effect on Yunus health, but by God’s mercy he recovered, And returned to his tribe to preach and teach.