My sister got saved last night

Unveiled Artist · May 27, 2020

I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

Saint Frankenstein · May 27, 2020

I was like that when I first converted to Catholicism. It's called the "zeal of the convert". You have found this new thing that's so wonderful and profound in your life and you want to share it with everyone and hope they agree with you. In hindsight, I was a bit obnoxious and judgmental.

Spirit of Light · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

A good OP

Those of us who get the experience of "seeing the light" or being saved as you called it here, do get an urge to share because the feeling of that inner ignighting of truth is Very powerful

it can not be explained with words, it has to be experienced first hand.
So i understand your sister.

Even she say she is saved, she has a lot of work i front og her

the spiritual practice is not an easy one if one searching for result in understanding the wisdom in the teaching.

Hope your family does not get split up because of her moment of realization

Twilight Hue · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

That click moment is always the time you were fully convinced. I guess she's happy, so that's a good thing, but expect a different kind of person for quite a while and I always recommend being patient. Verry patient.

Looking back at my own behavior when I 'clicked', my intentions were always good but I got to tell you looking back, I was annoying as hell with people over my newfound "eternal gift of life" that I wanted to share and save themselves from those horrible unmentionable consequences that were drilled into my head at the time.

Unveiled Artist · May 27, 2020

Nowhere Man said:
That click moment is always the time you were fully convinced. I guess she's happy, so that's a good thing, but expect a different kind of person for quite a while and I always recommend being patient. Verry patient.

Looking back at my own behavior when I 'clicked', my intentions were always good but I got to tell you looking back, I was annoying as hell with people over my newfound "eternal gift of life" that I wanted to share and save themselves from those horrible unmentionable consequences that were drilled into my head at the time.

Yeah. First we were talking (I thought) about our family situation. Something traumatic may have happened in our past we don't know yet about. I thought the click she meant was one day we going to know what it is and get on with life. Found out she meant god. She said mother had it too but now that I know what she means, mother lost it long time ago (no pun intended).

Windwalker · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything.

Personally, I would have stopped her there and explained that it's the exact opposite of that. That once you realize the world was nothing as you imagined it to be, the availability of possible answers skyrockets, to the point that you being to realize that none of that matters. Looking for answers is just what we do when we are insecure spiritually.

That would hopefully give pause to that stream of thought.

Nakosis · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

The psychology of it is interesting. Even having gone through it myself, can't quite explain it.

Unveiled Artist · May 27, 2020

Amanaki said:
A good OP

Those of us who get the experience of "seeing the light" or being saved as you called it here, do get an urge to share because the feeling of that inner ignighting of truth is Very powerful it can not be explained with words, it has to be experienced first hand.
So i understand your sister.

Even she say she is saved, she has a lot of work i front og her the spiritual practice is not an easy one if one searching for result in understanding the wisdom in the teaching.

Hope your family does not get split up because of her moment of realization

I guess so. I found my click was a bit more subtle than waking up and getting it type of thing. I read a thing back when it said when you talk about your goals to others, it puts in your head you already achieved them so you stop. Keeping your goals and intentions to yourself gives you motivation to do something for yourself and others without the need of someone's approval. I think that's where humility comes from. But that's my experience. I told her everyone's Click is different. But, to no avail.

All three of us live about two hours away from each other. I'm not sure what she tells our mother. I know now not to get her started. It's sad to say but after awhile you kinda have to draw a line (a respectable one, I would hope).

Unveiled Artist · May 27, 2020

Nakosis said:
The psychology of it is interesting. Even having gone through it myself, can't quite explain it.

When I became catholic, I think I went through it for about a month. Not the spread-the-news type though. I went to church daily and catholic retreats etc. But I never had the need to tell people what I learned as a means for them to be with me. I told my friend the good things and the bad things I discovered about christianity, practice, and history. I would hope that both sides would strengthen one's faith. But I knew I wasn't in it when I didn't see the bible as an authority, didn't need to be saved, and didn't like the them vs we view. It took awhile but I'm not the evangelistic type so I'm not sure about that.

sun rise · May 27, 2020

It's more widespread than just religion. I've had that happen with other things:

you can't believe what I just found out about nutrition - the right vitamins will make a world of different. Stop suffering now.

You really should stop paying so much money for that Apple junk. Buy a real computer much cheaper.

And so forth.

Unveiled Artist · May 27, 2020

Windwalker said:
Personally, I would have stopped her there and explained that it's the exact opposite of that. That once you realize the world was nothing as you imagined it to be, the availability of possible answers skyrockets, to the point that you being to realize that none of that matters. Looking for answers is just what we do when we are insecure spiritually.

That would hopefully give pause to that stream of thought.

I agree. I keep forgetting how my siblings have changed so much. I think it would crush her spirit if she got the click that she doesn't (and can't) know everything. I assumed that's why god is considered mysterious. If one knew everything (was god), then why look for him. Although it's gotten a bad reputation, god of the gaps does help a lot of people. Some can be critical and still hold their faith and others depend on it on faith and hope the eggs won't crack.

osgart · May 27, 2020

I have a friend who's in love with his girlfriend but is conflicted about giving up his girlfriend for Christian dogma.
He has a healthy happy child from a previous relationship. But he feels a calling to change everything because he doesn't want to go to hell even though he is very happy with everything in his life.

Talk about craziness. I wish all this born again saved rubbish would just end already. Family and friends have put me in a corner with it. I don't buy in. I keep losing people to this religion. And the false sense of guilt thrown my way is a bit overwhelming.

Brickjectivity · May 27, 2020

This has not happened to me, however I have seen it.

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

I think a lot of converts start to feel connected in a way that they couldn't before. It is probably a little euphoric. I am guessing, but considering the numerous accounts I have heard it is probably something like that. We all are like little lonely islands, and we want to connect and to feel less alone. Sometimes we can't feel that way.

I met a man who told me that after his conversion he felt a drug-like high for six months, solid; day after day. He said it was a miracle. At the time I assumed it must have been some kind of biological thing, but I was young, then. Maybe it was something else? I don't know. I think maybe he had a problem that got fixed. Maybe he had been in a lot of psychological pain before that? Its hard to know. You can't rule out miracles, either. Maybe it was a miracle?

There is a scripture verse that says "He who is forgiven much, loves much." There is a certain power in feeling forgiven and forgiving, like a power to love people and yourself. I am guessing that this has something to do with the conversion experience of your sister, but I do not know.

Here is what my advice is. Don't allow your sister to push you away with the strange behavior. Stay friends as much as you can. Make sure that its obvious she can still talk to you even though you are sticking to your own opinions. My advice is to, if possible, keep an open door policy.

Unveiled Artist · May 27, 2020

sun rise said:
It's more widespread than just religion. I've had that happen with other things:

you can't believe what I just found out about nutrition - the right vitamins will make a world of different. Stop suffering now.

You really should stop paying so much money for that Apple junk. Buy a real computer much cheaper.

And so forth.

True. I haven't thought about that.

Bird123 · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

Well, you Love your sister. That speaks a lot about you. Really good for you!! Perhaps, this is a opportunity to shine some real light on the subject, helping both of you.

The solution is really simple. Ask her nothing but questions she can not answer. Religion is no more than a bunch of beliefs created by people. There will be many questions they do not have good answers for.

This will take work on your part, however it will show her what she really has. Further, by searching for these questions, you will discover how those beliefs are blindly accepted and being held by mere threads.

Shine the light in her eyes. Everything about God will add up completely. Mankind, on the other hand, will not due to the bias of the petty things mankind holds so dear.

When she gets angry that you will not be controlled, look into her eyes, hug her, and give her Unconditional Love. It can hurt when one's bubble bursts in the Ego department so she will need you to lead her back to reality.

So many times people try to avoid all the Drama, however Drama is where most of the learning takes place. Never let the Drama bother you, especially when you are leading her in the right direction.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!!

Terry Sampson · May 27, 2020

Nakosis said:
The psychology of it is interesting. Even having gone through it myself, can't quite explain it.

Saint Frankenstein said:
In hindsight, I was a bit obnoxious and judgmental.

LOL! Brings back all too vivid memories.

I agree with sun rise, the "click" is not just a "got religion" thing. My eyes have glazed over more than once when someone I knew got their first car and I didn't drive and wasn't interested in learning; or, more commonly, had their first baby and couldn't understand why my wife and I chose not to have kids.

InvestigateTruth · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

If you ask her come to RF and, discuss your news, and click, what would she say?

Kenny · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

Yes, it is an exciting moment for a person who basically got their lights turned on. It was amazing for me as I shared it with my family and extended family since I was the first one who believe in and received Christ.

At first, I was over zealous just because I loved my family. Like you said, it's like when you meet a girlfriend. You want everyone to know about it.

so happy for your sister.

Deeje · May 27, 2020

Unveiled Artist said:
I was talking to my sister just awhile ago. She was telling me that everyone has this "click." That once people get life, they will understand everything. That was fine, then after she was talking more, she was more everyone is going to click to get god. The weird thing was, though, was that it was hard for her to see outside of this-that people's click isn't hers. Then she says, "I have the answers. I'm just planting the seed..." it spell bounded me.

She invited me to see her (we haven't met in awhile) and my mother together since we're so spread out. Then it dawned on me, she wanted us to meet so she can plant the seed, and "answer any questions we may have." I told her I didn't want to stay with her if I knew she was going to preach to me. (I think she said she was a preacher of some sort-I asked because of the language and tone) We're going to meet, but now I know the intent, I just feel it's inappropriate to stay with her (and my mother) knowing that my mother and I are not god believers.

Something about being saved just ignites people to spread the news. It's one thing to spread the good news. When I had a girlfriend, I spread the good news too. But it's another to convince people their good news is supposed to be yours. She mentioned people just don't get it.

I cannot imagine anyone going through a household where the good news is always being spread while saying, "its your choice" at the same time. She says that we all get it but we're saying it in different languages (religions and perspectives).

But what got me was she said she got all the answers. She said she was humble and that's how she got the answers.

I've always been flabbergasted over this type of thinking. Even on RF, people just. don't. get it.

I have always wondered about this expression "got saved" as if someone waved a magic wand and they were automatically placed in a queue.

Coming to Christ was based on knowledge not feelings. It is an intelligently made decision based on a person coming to know God and the one he sent to be our redeemer. (John 17:3)

Emotional decisions are transient and unreliable because they have no solid foundation. Any challenge may result in undoing a person's faith in 5 seconds flat.

It is a choice.....obviously not one that can be made in one night.

Unveiled Artist · May 27, 2020

InvestigateTruth said:
If you ask her come to RF and, discuss your news, and click, what would she say?

Haha. I wouldn't do that to her...

She's been working with her church for awhile. She was following christ I think its been six years since she met her christian boyfriend. But she didn't "get it" until last night. I talked with an acquaintance ten years ago who stayed here for about a week. She too found christ mostly overnight, but with her it was challenging me my already held beliefs. She was muslim and turned christian. She was happy and she told me a story about her going to the gas station. She joyfully told the guy behind the counter she found christ. He asked her if she repented, and she thought-no. She came back to my place and gave me a good talk about her repentance and story. Something about the need-to-challenge, judge, or undermine others views is something akin to an evangelist-convert.

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