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Is Biden Really A Racist or Just Stupid?

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Oh yeah, great.

He endorsed Hillary Clinton. Remember that?

Sanders is so far left that his political endorsements and endeavors may as well be TeaParty. "How to kill socialism in the USA".

I'd really like to see the USA move towards a more socialistic political system. But, as long as people like Sanders and the BernieBros keep sabotaging people like Clinton and Biden it won't happen. Corporate Capitalist Christian politicians will continue to rule the country.
Tom
Exactly how do you think "Sanders and the BernieBros" sabotaged anything? Be specific.
 
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I wonder how many people could honestly pass your "test for racism", @esmith? Me, I'm quite aware that people harbor prejudices and biases they don't always show, or that they themselves don't always approve of. I think it's called 'human nature', and is not a monopoly of any political party.

But what to do about it? It seems you want to use those facts to undermine support for Mr. Biden, but would prefer the same facts of human nature not be used to undermine support for Mr. Trump. We'll fair enough. At least, you're not trying to hide your motives. That's almost refreshing in our Age of Lies.

On the other hand, I would suggest that what you are doing bears an ironic resemblance -- however possibly superficial -- to the behavior of the Social Justice Warriors on the left that you are so well-known to despise.

Ever hear of that Lakota proverb, esmith? The one that goes, "Chose you enemies wisely, for you become like them". It's a good proverb to keep in mind, I think.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Exactly how do you think "Sanders and yhe BernieBros" sabotaged anything? Be specific.
Clinton lost.

I'm not going back through 4 years of internet to provide video evidence because I don't really care about your opinion.

But I'm still seeing it here. People who believe that Sanders could beat Trump, despite never winning a Democratic party election. And never facing off against a Trump.
Tom
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
A Biden Problem: Foot in Mouth"
I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Biden explains Indian-American remarks
"you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."

Biden accused of making racist comment with ‘you ain’t black’ retort
“You got more questions. If you have a problem figuring out if you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”

Cory Booker takes aim at Joe Biden's 'hoodie' language about race
"We've got to recognize that the kid wearing a hoodie may very well be the next poet laureate and not a gangbanger,"
To be fair, the last quote can be interpreted to be an attack against racist assumptions.
The others are a bit “yikesy” though
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Clinton lost.

I'm not going back through 4 years of internet to provide video evidence because I don't really care about your opinion.
That's probably for the best, since my opinion of people who make accusations but don't back them up tends to be pretty low.

But I'm still seeing it here. People who believe that Sanders could beat Trump, despite never winning a Democratic party election. And never facing off against a Trump.
Tom
Ah... so expressing a wish for something better: that's what you call "sabotage."
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Yes, Biden is a racist. So is Trump. Just because black people will mostly vote Democratic doesn't mean Biden isn't a racist. They vote Democratic because of the promises those politicians make for the black community but then end up not following through with. Obama didn't help the black community, either. He made a lot of lovely promises and captivated the imagination of the nation and then ended up being another puppet of the military-industrial complex. Dem-controlled cities just end up gentrifying the ghetto areas and forcing the poor and working class minorities out of the area because they can't afford it, like they did in San Francisco (the poor were forced onto the street and black people left to Oakland). They're doing the same in my city. Neither the Rep or Dem establishment care about the common people, although there's some in each party who do but those people aren't the ones with power.
 
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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
They vote Democratic because of the promises those politicians make for the black community but then end up not following through with.
And it is scary, because if there is one think that Trump really excels at it is making promises and not following through on them. This election will be really close.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
And it is scary, because if there is one think that Trump really excels at it is making promises and not following through on them. This election will be really close.
None of them do and it doesn't matter which one you vote for, really. They answer to the same groups in the end, not to sound like a conspiracy theorist. Elections are just beard and circus pageantry to make people believe they have a choice.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
I wonder how many people could honestly pass your "test for racism", @esmith? Me, I'm quite aware that people harbor prejudices and biases they don't always show, or that they themselves don't always approve of. I think it's called 'human nature', and is not a monopoly of any political party.

But what to do about it? It seems you want to use those facts to undermine support for Mr. Biden, but would prefer the same facts of human nature not be used to undermine support for Mr. Trump. We'll fair enough. At least, you're not trying to hide your motives. That's almost refreshing in our Age of Lies.

On the other hand, I would suggest that what you are doing bears an ironic resemblance -- however possibly superficial -- to the behavior of the Social Justice Warriors on the left that you are so well-known to despise.

Ever hear of that Lakota proverb, esmith? The one that goes, "Chose you enemies wisely, for you become like them". It's a good proverb to keep in mind, I think.
Nah, I'm just doing anything and everything to help insure that the Demorats lose the House and fail to take the White House.
As far as the President goes.....we know where he stands and have judged him and found his policies far outweigh his faults.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Do you think Obama was stupid?

He did pick Biden as his running mate.
As far as I can tell, they worked well together. The economy and federal budget improved greatly. Trade was doing well. We were at peace with Iran.

I don't understand why a few tiny video clips suddenly make Biden stupid and racist. There're years of history to look at.
Tom

Talking of history to look at, has there ever been a satisfactory explanation for this?

 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Sanders wasn't a better candidate and didn't have a better chance of winning against Trump. This is about getting rid of Trump, Sanders will not come into the picture anymore, sorry. Sanders endorsed Biden anyways.

I agree that it's not likely to happen, but I disagree that Biden has a better chance of winning against Trump. I think it's that line of thinking which proves just how out of touch the Democratic leadership has been.

You don't live in reality.

Neither do you or the DNC.

Hillary was supposedly the 'worst candidate ever' and still got more votes than Trump. So it's pretty obvious what will happen in November.

"Obvious," huh? What's obvious is that both Hillary and Biden are sham candidates whose nomination demonstrates the corruption and internal dissension within the party.

Current polling is showing double-digit leads for Biden over Trump. Fox poll, etc.

I read it was a 6-point lead, just as the same polls predicted a Hillary victory in 2016.

Well, maybe the Democrats just don't know how to pick candidates. They're out of touch.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Then after saying if African Americans don’t vote for him they aren’t black, he does an interview during which he claimed that the NAACP endorsed him in every election. This was quickly followed by a press statement from the NAACP that they never make political endorsements. Way to go, Joe.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Talking of history to look at, has there ever been a satisfactory explanation for this?

I watched for about 45 seconds.
Until the Fox anchor referred to the return of Iranian funds as a "drug drop". Then I stopped bothering.

Fact is, that money belonged to the Iranian government. The USA stole it. Obama returned it in an attempt to get a peace process on track.

That's the explanation, in a nutshell. Obama was trying to end the nuclear weapons program Iran considered necessary to protect themselves from us, the USA.
Tom
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I watched for about 45 seconds.
Until the Fox anchor referred to the return of Iranian funds as a "drug drop". Then I stopped bothering.

Fact is, that money belonged to the Iranian government. The USA stole it. Obama returned it in an attempt to get a peace process on track.

That's the explanation, in a nutshell. Obama was trying to end the nuclear weapons program Iran considered necessary to protect themselves from us, the USA.
Tom
Except you overlooked a key fact. The money you claim the “USA stole” were assets merely frozen by the U.S. in reaction to Iran seizure of American and other foreigner’s assets in Iran during its revolution. Obama didn’t give Iran back unencumbered money. He forgave Iran’s own theft of assets on the backs of those that had their assets stolen by Iran.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I watched for about 45 seconds.
Until the Fox anchor referred to the return of Iranian funds as a "drug drop". Then I stopped bothering.

Fact is, that money belonged to the Iranian government. The USA stole it. Obama returned it in an attempt to get a peace process on track.

That's the explanation, in a nutshell. Obama was trying to end the nuclear weapons program Iran considered necessary to protect themselves from us, the USA.
Tom

Was it the Fox anchor that referred to it being a "drug drop"?

Cash is the currency of terrorism.

Obama submitted to Islam.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It was the World Bank, upon their review, that had ruled that we needed to return the money to Iran.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
A Biden Problem: Foot in Mouth"
I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Biden explains Indian-American remarks
"you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."

Biden accused of making racist comment with ‘you ain’t black’ retort
“You got more questions. If you have a problem figuring out if you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”

Cory Booker takes aim at Joe Biden's 'hoodie' language about race
"We've got to recognize that the kid wearing a hoodie may very well be the next poet laureate and not a gangbanger,"
I'm a Brit so my opinion doesn't matter, but he sure does seem to be a very strange choice for the Dems.
But that puts you all in to a very tough corner, because if President Trump gains a 2nd term in power he won't need to worry about you all too much for the next four years, and any change in his politics or faith can't be a reason for his exclusion.
Good luck to you..... I reckon you're going to need it.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
everyone knows the World bank is a front for Obama!!
 
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