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The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: In regards to good and bad, they're actual things. Good and bad are nothing more than value judgments, and value judgments are actual things. They're emotions. So, good and bad are emotions.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: The term "happiness" implies a state of mind that's not apathetic. How can a person be happy if he's apathetic? The same thing applies to the term "grief." If someone was apathetic, the loss of his mother didn't matter to him, and he defined his apathy as grief, then how could he be in a state of grief? So, I don't think a person can be happy or grieve through definitions alone.

My Reply: Right. So, happiness and grief are emotional states.

Other Person's Response: Happiness implies a pleasant state of mind, and grief implies an unpleasant state of mind.

My Reply: Yes, and they're pleasant and unpleasant emotions.

Other Person's Response: The only pleasantness and unpleasantness that exists is the pleasantness and unpleasantness we perceive. Since emotions are perceptions of things and situations being pleasant and unpleasant, then that means emotions are perceptions of pleasantness and unpleasantness. So, that means emotions are pleasant and unpleasant, just as how emotions are beautiful and horrific, since they're perceptions of beauty and horror.

My Reply: Yes. Emotions are pleasant, unpleasant, beautiful, horrific, etc. experiences.

Other Person's Response: Reason alone can't make us feel horror, fear, etc.?

My Reply: Correct. There's a difference between thinking and feeling.

Other Person's Response: If someone was a bum who smoked and drank beer for a living, but he felt very good, then we shouldn't say: "Some life that is!" We should instead say: "He lived a very good life!"

My Reply: Yes.
 
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The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: Here's a hellish near death experience account (it was taken from this link):

Distressing Near-Death Experiences: The Basics

"Another woman in childbirth felt herself floating on water, but at a certain point, “It was no longer a peaceful feeling; it had become pure hell. I had become a light out in the heavens, and I was screaming, but no sound was going forth. It was worse than any nightmare. I was spinning around, and I realized that this was eternity; this was what forever was going to be…. I felt the aloneness, the emptiness of space, the vastness of the universe, except for me, a mere ball of light, screaming.”

This woman knew this hell would last for an eternity. But, should she trust this knowledge? Perhaps she's wrong, and she's believing a lie. So, perhaps when her physical body dies, her soul won't be trapped for an eternity in that hellish realm. She might just remain there for a little while.

My Reply: Or perhaps she knew the truth, and no being could ever save her. So, if her soul ends up in that hellish realm, she really might remain there for an eternity.

Other Person's Response: If god or his angels can't save her, then how would they be loving entities to allow such a horrible fate? They would've known all along that some souls would be hopelessly trapped for an eternity in a hellish afterlife, where god and his angels couldn't rescue them. So, if god and his angels were all-loving beings, then they would've done everything in their power to prevent such a tragic fate from happening.

My Reply: I agree.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: Are feelings (perceptions) of value and worth the only valuable and worthwhile things in life, just as how feeling good is the only good thing in life?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Good and bad are just labels. So, you can define (label) good and bad however you want. Why limit yourself to the philosophy that feeling good is the only good thing in life, and feeling bad is the only bad thing in life?

My Reply: I did define good and bad as something else. For example, I defined it as a good thing to persevere in my composing dream, despite my misery, and inability to feel positive emotions. But, that didn't work for me, which means it didn't change my life for the better. Being in that miserable state of mind was still no way to live or be a composer for me. So, that's why I have to conclude that feeling good is the only good thing in life. There's clearly no positive experience for me in the absence of my positive emotions. That's why I have this view that positive emotions are the only positive things in life.

Other Person's Response: Colors are mental states (visual states), and reason alone can't allow us to experience them. Beauty, happiness, love, etc. are also mental states, and reason alone can't allow us to experience them.

My Reply: Correct.

Other Person's Response: Even if a person felt bad about a psychopath feeling good in regards to torturing others, it would still be a good thing for that psychopath to torture others, since he felt good about it.

My Reply: Yes, and I don't care how dumb and dangerous my philosophy sounds.

Other Person's Response: If people don't feel like reading all this material you've written, then why should they even bother reading it? They wouldn't care.

My Reply: But, there are some people who'd feel interested in reading it.

Other Person's Response: Emotions are mental states, and mental states are actual things. Since emotions are value judgments, then that means value judgments are actual things (mental states). So, good and bad are actual things (value judgments/emotions/mental states).

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Have you considered the principle of Yin and Yang, where all things exist as inseparable and contradictory opposites? For example, female-male, dark-light, sun and rain, old and young, etc. The two opposites of Yin and Yang attract and complement each other, and, as their symbol illustrates, each side has, at its core, an element of the other (represented by the small dots).

Neither pole is superior to the other and, as an increase in one brings a corresponding decrease in the other, a correct balance between the two poles must be reached in order to achieve harmony. So, we can't have happiness (or good feelings) without the existence of bad feelings and unhappiness. For instance, can we use 'bad feelings' to help us stay happy, or happy feelings to keep us feeling bad? I certainly agree that it's all about feelings. But, my question is, what value is there to have bad feelings or suffering, when we do not intend to seek or want same?

My Reply: We can use bad feelings however we want. But, my view says that feeling bad can only be bad, regardless of how said feelings are used. Even if bad feelings were used to give us more good feelings throughout our lives, that still wouldn't be good. So, a person would just have to bear through the bad feelings (which are bad) until he gains the end result of more good feelings throughout his life. The moment he gains these good feelings is the moment he has goodness in his life again. As you can see, my horrible, miserable struggles can never be good, valuable, or beautiful, even if the end result was the most powerful bliss for me. I'd just have to bear through those struggles until I gain the bliss (which would be intensely good, beautiful, amazing, magnificent, etc).

Other Person's Response: Is feeling bad required to feel good?

My Reply: I don't think so. After all, in the past, I hardly felt bad, and I mostly felt good throughout my life until, years later, I recently had these miserable struggles. Also, if feeling bad is required to feel good, my philosophy says that feeling bad is still bad. Like I said, having these miserable struggles was no way to live or be an artist, which means these struggles weren't good, valuable, or beautiful. So, that's why I conclude that feeling bad can only be bad, and feeling good can only be good.

Other Person's Response: Your philosophy says that feeling bad is no way to live or be an artist. So, that would have to mean feeling bad can only be bad, according to your philosophy. But, an artist who feels bad can paint or write music about feeling bad in order to describe and/or connect with reality (the human condition). Is that bad?

My Reply: It's bad to live a life of feeling bad, even if bad feelings were used to inspire others through artwork. Again, my personal experience has led me to this conclusion.

Other Person's Response: If an artist created a work of art that depicted feeling bad, then would that work of art be bad?

My Reply: No, because works of art, in of themselves, are neither good nor bad. Feeling good is what's good, and feeling bad is what's bad. Also, if an artist created an animated character, and said character expressed that he was feeling bad, then that wouldn't be bad, since the character is just an animated drawing that doesn't have feelings. That character can't feel good, bad, love, hate, etc.
 
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The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: Are emotions, by themselves, perceptions of good, bad, beauty, etc.? Or, do we make them perceptions of good, bad, etc. by having the thought or belief that something is good, bad, etc., and that thought or belief giving us perceptions (feelings) of goodness, badness, etc. in regards to that thing?

My Reply: I'm not sure, but I think emotions only become perceptions of good, bad, beauty, etc. through our thoughts and beliefs. So, if someone automatically felt a certain emotion in regards to a given thing, and said emotion wasn't triggered by the person's way of thinking or believing, then I don't think that emotion can be a perception of good, bad, value, beauty, etc. in regards to that thing.

Other Person's Response: So, a thought that something's horrific makes us feel horror in regards to that thing, so we can perceive it as horrific?

My Reply: Yes. Thoughts and beliefs make us feel emotions, so we can perceive things as good, bad, horrific, etc. But, there are things that can prevent thoughts and beliefs from making us feel certain emotions.

Other Person's Response: When a person sees red, actual red is there. When a person sees beauty and goodness, then actual beauty and goodness is there.

My Reply: Yes, and positive emotions are actual beauty and goodness, since they're feelings/perceptions of beauty and goodness. Also, the color red is a perceptual (visual) state, which means red doesn't exist in the physical world. It only exists in our minds. The same idea applies to sounds, smells, and even good, bad, beauty, horror, etc. So, colors, sounds, smells, good, bad, etc. are all perceptual states. They're all produced by the brain. But, the brain can't produce any of them if the necessary brain regions aren't working properly because there are blind people, deaf people, people who can't smell, and people who are unable to feel certain emotions. So, there are people who can't perceive colors, sounds, smells, good, bad, etc.

Other Person's Response: As for sound, there are vibrations in the physical world. But, actual sound is something produced by the brain. So, sound itself doesn't exist in the physical world.

My Reply: Correct.

Other Person's Response: Your philosophy is basically saying there's no good, bad, etc. in this world, and that it's all in our mind?

My Reply: Yes. Things like good, bad, beauty, etc. are all perceptions.

Other Person's Response: So, this world isn't beautiful or horrible, and we make it a beautiful or horrible place for ourselves by perceiving it as beautiful or horrible?

My Reply: Yes. But, without our emotions, we can't make that happen.

Other Person's Response: According to your philosophy, when a person feels good about something, he's perceiving it as a good thing? Since perceptions of good are the only good things in life, then that means feeling good is the only good thing in life?

My Reply: Yes. The only goodness that exists is the goodness we perceive. The same thing applies to bad.

Other Person's Response: Are feelings (perceptions) of value and worth the only valuable and worthwhile things in life, just as how feeling good is the only good thing in life?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: I think your philosophy is very childish.

My Reply: There will be people who'd say that any given worldview is childish. For example, atheists would say that Christianity is childish, since Christians aren't growing up out of this mystical, fairy tale nonsense that they live their lives by. Christians would say that atheism is childish, since atheists are rebelling against the Christian doctrine, and not living their lives in obedience to the Lord.

I could even say that people who live by a philosophy opposite of mine is childish, since these people trivialize emotions, have stigma against those who uphold the importance of emotions, deny the fact that emotions are the only good and bad things in life, and call me childish. My point is, when people say that any given worldview is childish, that's just their opinion. So, if people say my philosophy is childish, then that's just their opinion.

Other Person's Response: What if people say that your philosophy is nonsense?

My Reply: Again, when it comes to any given worldview, there will be people who'd say it's nonsense. So, if people say that my philosophy is nonsense, then that's just their personal view. I think any philosophy that opposes mine is nonsense, and that would just be my personal view.

Other Person's Response: You say, in another document, that you're undecided when it comes to controversial topics, which means you should remain undecided as to whether any philosophy that opposes yours really is nonsense or not, since even that's controversial.

My Reply: You're right. But, for me, my emotions are the only good and bad things in life, since that's just my personal experience.

Other Person's Response: What are your thoughts on changing your philosophy to a better one?

My Reply: If people think my philosophy is childish nonsense, and they try to convert me to a different philosophy, then that would be like trying to convert a Christian or atheist. It's just a waste of time because it's not going to work. As a matter of fact, nothing will work. So, you can argue with a Christian or atheist all day, and that won't convert him/her. Also, to try to convert me to a different philosophy would be no different than me trying to convert someone to my philosophy. Like I said, it's just not going to work.

Other Person's Response: So, why are people wasting their time having a discussion with you in this very document? Their attempts to change your philosophy are in vain.

My Reply: Such a discussion gives plenty of insight for readers in regards to my philosophy, and I wish to share this insight to people, such as my therapist, my mother, and anyone else who'd be interested in reading it. This discussion section addresses plenty of questions, objections, and responses people have in regards to my philosophy.

Other Person's Response: Do you think it's a futile endeavor to try to change your philosophy?

My Reply: Yes. So, this is just my philosophy, and I don't think anything can change it.

Other Person's Response: There are some Christians and atheists who convert over to a different worldview. So, I think it's possible for you to convert over to a different worldview.

My Reply: But, I think most people don't convert from whatever worldview they had. For example, most Christians don't convert. So, if you're a Christian, then it's very likely you'll remain a Christian your entire life. As for my worldview, which says that feeling good is the only good thing in life, and feeling bad is the only bad thing in life, many people would say it's a very limiting, self-defeating view. Unfortunately, I think it's very likely I'll remain stuck with this view my entire life.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: I heard that our souls have incarnated into physical bodies here on Earth for the purpose of learning and growing. We undergo suffering and hardships to develop as individuals. You've had much suffering, since you've had many miserable struggles, and said struggles were a cycle of suffering that lasted many years. If god and his angels wanted you to have these struggles in the hopes that you'd develop a better philosophy, then they're really just wasting their time, aren't they? If you can never develop a better philosophy, then reincarnating here on Earth again and again to suffer a life of misery and unhappiness is pointless. It's never going to change your philosophy. So, what's the point?

My Reply: Exactly.

Other Person's Response: Hedonism is a philosophy that advocates the idea of seeking pleasure and avoiding pain. I think your philosophy would be a form of hedonism, since your philosophy says that we should pursue positive emotions and avoid negative emotions.

My Reply: Yes. But, the emotion perception theory is added into this hedonistic view of mine. So, instead of me having a hedonistic view that simply says we should pursue positive emotions and avoid negative ones, I have a view that says we should pursue positive emotions (perceptions of goodness, beauty, magnificence, awesomeness, etc.), and avoid negative emotions (perceptions of badness, horror, tragedy, disgust, etc.).

Other Person's Response: Many people, such as therapists, would even say to look on the bright side, and not the dark side. In other words, they'd say to look at the positive and not the negative (i.e. to see the goodness, beauty, etc., and not the bad, horrible, etc.).

My Reply: Right. When you see something as beautiful, good, or amazing, that's giving you a beautiful, good, or amazing experience (a positive experience), and we need these positive experiences. Our perception is our life's experience, and if we're perceiving things as horrible, bad, or disgusting, then we're just creating a negative life experience for ourselves. When we feel positive emotions (have positive perceptions), our minds are in the bright side (the realm of the holy light), and not the dark side.

Other Person's Response: Your philosophy says that feeling good is the only good thing in life, and feeling bad is the only bad thing in life. That means how we feel is the only thing that matters.

My Reply: Yes, because our perception/life's experience is all that matters.

Other Person's Response: I think hedonism says that feeling good is the only good thing in life. But, when hedonism talks about feeling good, I don't think it means perceiving someone or something as good. It just means a pleasant feeling. For example, if a person feels well after having recovered from the flu, then that would be feeling good, according to hedonism. When a person feels a pleasant, bodily sensation, then that would also be feeling good, according to hedonism.

My Reply: Right. So, when I talk about feeling good, I'm talking about perceiving good, which is a positive emotion.

Other Person's Response: Positive emotions are also loving, happy, sexually erotic, etc. perceptions, right? We should pursue those perceptions as well, shouldn't we?

My Reply: Yes. So, instead of just perceiving something as good, such as seeing a certain idea as good, we should also pursue loving, happy, and sexually erotic forms of goodness. That means we should happily perceive our hobbies, goals, and dreams as good, we should lovingly perceive someone as a good person, etc.

Other Person's Response: So, we should pursue feelings of happiness and love that are good feelings?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: I heard the only thoughts that have traumatized you were thoughts of worry and concern in regards to yourself, and not others. For example, there was a moment in your life where you lost your ability to feel positive emotions, and that made you miserable. You're not really concerned about others, which is why the death and suffering of people and animals doesn't bother you at all. There were moments where pets in your house died, and it didn't matter to you. As a matter of fact, a person could suffer and die before your very eyes, and that wouldn't bother you. You'd just have a positive, casual mindset about that situation that causes you to feel positive.

My Reply: I wouldn't want to be traumatized and miserable when witnessing the death and suffering of others anyway, since that would be giving me a negative experience. I also wish I never had all these thoughts and worries that traumatized me and made me miserable, since that was nothing but a negative experience for me.

Other Person's Response: Since it's your mindset that causes you to feel certain ways, and since you don't feel bothered by the death and suffering of others, then that must mean you have the mindset that the death and suffering of others doesn't bother you.

My Reply: Correct.

Other Person's Response: Do you also have the mindset that people and animals don't matter to you at all?

My Reply: Actually, I have the mindset that they matter to me. For example, I had the thought that Michael Jackson was an awesome person, that thought made me feel awesome about him, and that feeling was a perception of him being awesome. The very fact I had that thought means I had the thought that he mattered to me. But, even though I see him as an awesome person, I wasn't bothered at all by his suffering and death.

Other Person's Response: You say you normally have a positive mindset that causes you to feel positive emotions, and that you feel many negative emotions only during your miserable struggles/emotional traumas. Is it because you have a lot of negative thoughts making you feel negative emotions during these struggles?

My Reply: I think so. If one negative thought or worry causes you to feel miserable, then you're going to have other negative thoughts and worries making you feel other negative emotions. Also, I can't help but have these negative thoughts and negative emotions during an emotional crisis. During an emotional crisis, many things bother me, such as the name calling of others, having to do certain tasks, etc. But, they don't bother me at all when I'm not having an emotional crisis.

Other Person's Response: Since emotions are the only good and bad things in life, then our thoughts alone can't be positive or negative (good or bad). So, it's just thoughts making you feel positive or negative emotions, and not positive or negative thoughts making you feel positive or negative emotions.

My Reply: Right. But, I can still refer to thoughts as being positive or negative anyway, just for the sake of convenience.

Other Person's Response: You say you can't help but feel negative emotions during an emotional crisis. So, does that mean you do feel miserable when witnessing the death and suffering of others during an emotional crisis?

My Reply: Yes, sometimes, because negative emotions sometimes pop up. They're not traumatic feelings. But, they're still very negative feelings I don't want. But, like I said, when I'm not having an emotional crisis, I normally don't feel sad, miserable, tragic, etc. in regards to others dying and suffering, and that's a good thing because feeling good is the only good thing in life, and I normally feel good when I don't have an emotional crisis.

Other Person's Response: According to Hume, if we were rendered without the ability to feel emotions, then it wouldn't be a good thing to pursue our goals and dreams, help others, do certain tasks, etc. We'd just be apathetic vessels who are hollow on the inside. So, emotions have to be the only good and bad things in life.

My Reply: Right.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: Perceptions are mental states. So, when a person perceives beauty, he's in a beautiful mental state. When he perceives something or someone as valuable or magnificent, then he's in a valuable or magnificent mental state.

My Reply: Yes, and these beautiful, valuable, and magnificent mental states are the only beautiful, valuable, and magnificent things in life. The same thing applies to bad, horrible, disgusting, tragic, etc. mental states.

Other Person's Response: Since these mental states are the only things that matter, according to your philosophy, then that means it's not about what contributions I've made to humanity, what heroic deeds I've done, and what mark I've made upon this world. It's all about how much positive and negative mental states I've experienced throughout my life.

My Reply: Correct. If you've had mostly positive mental states, then you've lived a life that was mostly good, beautiful, magnificent, etc.

Other Person's Response: Some people would say you're a cold-blooded psychopath, since your philosophy says feeling good is the only good thing in life, which means it would be a good thing to harm someone if a person felt good about doing it. But, I don't think you're a cold-blooded psychopath. I think you just have a very limiting, self-defeating view is all. Such a view renders you a victim of negative emotions because, rather than embracing horrible feelings, you instead deem them as the only horrible things in life, and say that having such feelings is no way to live or be an artist.

My Reply: I'm very polite, I don't harm others, and many people love me. So, that shows I'm not a cold-blooded psychopath. But, regardless of how much others tell me my philosophy is dangerous, dumb, or self-defeating, it's not going to change my philosophy.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person’s Response: Your philosophy says that the only way we can value something would be through our feelings of value (positive emotions)?

My Reply: Yes. When you feel value in regards to something, you see it as valuable, which means it’s valuable to you, which means you value it.

Other Person's Response: The only way we can value something or someone as good, beautiful, and amazing is through our positive emotions, right?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: So, if I want to value something or someone, then I need to see it as valuable, and I can only do so through a feeling of value (a positive emotion)?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Is the only way you can value people and things is through your feelings of value?

My Reply: Yes. That's been my personal experience.

Other Person's Response: People are telling you why your philosophy is false. It's a dangerous philosophy, and if people lived by it, we'd have a dangerous, dysfunctional society. So, why hasn't that convinced you that your philosophy is false?

My Reply: It's because this is my life and my own personal experience. I pay attention to what my personal experience has to say, regardless of what others tell me. My personal experience says perceptions of goodness and badness are the only good and bad things in life, and that these perceptions can only be emotional states. My personal experience also says that love, hate, fear, pride, and happiness can only be emotions. Until my personal experience says otherwise, this is the philosophy I'll always have.

Other Person's Response: I realized you defined happiness as something other than a positive emotion, such as doing tasks and helping others, despite your misery. But, that didn't work for you, which means your personal experience is still telling you that happiness can only be a positive emotion.

My Reply: Right. No definition of happiness can be happiness for me. So, I've concluded that happiness can only be a positive emotion. After all, my feelings of happiness have always been the only happiness for me. Regardless of what I define as happiness, love, hate, sadness, good, bad, etc., I must pay attention to what my personal experience says, and my personal experience says they can only be emotions.

Other Person's Response: Your philosophy says that making others feel good can't be good if we don't feel good about doing so?

My Reply: Correct. A person's perception must be taken into consideration when he's doing certain tasks and deeds. So, as long as a person is unable to see it as a good thing to bring others good feelings, then it wouldn't be a good thing if he brought others good feelings. Also, as long as I'm unable to see the pursuit of my composing dream as good or valuable, then that pursuit can't be good or valuable.

Other Person's Response: Humans have perceptions (mental states). Without them, we'd just be machines with no consciousness. So, to ignore and dismiss a person's feelings (perceptions/mental states) would be no different than treating that person as a machine. For example, if a person was completely apathetic, couldn't love anyone, couldn't see helping others as a good, valuable, or worthwhile endeavor, he forced himself to help others anyway, despite his apathy, and other people acted as though that was a loving, good, valuable, and worthwhile deed, then these people would be treating him as a machine because they act as though it's his deeds that mattered, and not his perception.

My Reply: Right. That person had an apathetic perception, and such a perception shouldn't be ignored and dismissed. The fact is, his deeds wouldn't be loving, good, valuable, or worthwhile because he didn't have loving, good, valuable, or worthwhile feelings/perceptions when doing these deeds. Regardless of how much that apathetic person dragged himself along through life and made it his sworn duty to help and protect others, his deeds wouldn't be good or loving. There are plenty of depressed and apathetic people in this world who get work done because they know it has to be done. But, that wouldn't be a good, valuable, or beautiful thing, according to my philosophy.

Other Person's Response: There are suicidal, miserable people in this world who are in much mental turmoil. But, there are people who dismiss their mental suffering and tell them: "You gotta do what you gotta do in life."

My Reply: Right. Being in that mental state is no way to live, and those people would be dismissing this because they act as though getting work done is what's important, and not our perception/state of mind. As a matter of fact, people even have this attitude in regards to themselves. So, regardless of how miserable and apathetic they are, they still somehow believe it's their deeds that are important, and not their perception.

Other Person's Response: You said you still did certain tasks when you were miserable and unable to feel positive emotions. You even pursued your composing dream for quite some time. But, you're saying that wasn't a good thing?

My Reply: Correct, since I couldn't feel good about it.

Other Person's Response: You say, later on, that depressed and apathetic people are performing loving acts in the absence of their loving feelings. But, they wouldn't be loving acts, and you're just saying they're loving acts anyway, just for the sake of convenience.

My Reply: Yes. It's simply to convey what types of acts I'm talking about. For example, if I just said that depressed and apathetic people perform acts, I wouldn't be making it clear to the reader what type of act I'm talking about, such as a loving, hateful, angry, joyful, etc. act. But, without feelings of love, hate, etc., there can be no loving, hateful, etc. act.

Other Person's Response: You don't need to be bothered by the death and suffering of others. You could instead feel positive about helping others, easing their suffering, and preventing their death.

My Reply: Right. But, I don't really care about going out of my way to help humanity. It's just not my passion in life. My passion is composing music for the world to hear. My goal as a composer is to compose music that the audience would praise, so I can feel positive emotions from said praise.

Other Person's Response: If you felt more horrible than someone else, then that means your suffering was worse than his.

My Reply: Yes. When determining whose suffering is worse, we'd compare our feelings and see who had the worse feelings.

Other Person's Response: If I wish to create a beautiful, tropical experience for myself, then I'd imagine a tropical place I think is beautiful? From there, that thought needs to make me feel beauty in order for that beautiful, tropical atmosphere (mood) to be created for me?

My Reply: Yes. Whatever beautiful or amazing mood (atmosphere) you wish to create for yourself is yours to create. You can even imagine yourself as being any character you think is awesome or beautiful, and you'd get to experience the awesomeness or beauty of that character as a part of yourself. In other words, you get to perceive yourself as being any awesome or beautiful character you want. But, again, if you had no ability to feel awesomeness or beauty, then it just won't work because you wouldn't be able to perceive awesomeness or beauty.

Other Person's Response: I heard that you listened to an instrumental, heavy metal song while out in nature, you had the thought this song was beautiful, and you also had the thought that nature was beautiful. Those 2 forms of beauty combined to create a new form of beauty, and it would be like combining 2 colors to make a new color (such as combining red and yellow to make orange). So, the feeling of beauty you got was a heavy metal, nature feeling, and this feeling of beauty was a new form of beauty that was created as a result of those 2 forms of beauty combining.

My Reply: Yes. So, that feeling of beauty would be like the color orange, which was created by having a thought of beauty in regards to that heavy metal song (red), and having a thought of beauty in regards to nature (yellow). I notice that beautiful heavy metal/nature feeling pops up whenever I listen to that heavy metal song, regardless if I listen to it while out in nature, or in the store. I also notice that other songs I listen to make me feel positive emotions that are combined forms of beauty, awesomeness, magnificence, etc.

Other Person's Response: According to your philosophy, if there were police who were tired, miserable, and didn't feel like catching a criminal, then it wouldn't be a good thing if they caught that criminal. In addition, that criminal wouldn't be a bad guy if he didn't feel he was a bad guy. If he felt good about himself, then that means he sees himself as a good person, and that makes him a good person.

My Reply: Correct. As for the police, they can still choose to catch that criminal anyway, just as how a miserable, tired person can still choose to drag himself out of bed. But, like I said, it wouldn't be a good thing to do so, which means those police are free to give up catching that criminal.

Other Person's Response: Would you care if your own brother died?

My Reply: No. I just have no attachment to him. But, I could have the thought that he was a good person who lived the best he could, and feel good about that.
 
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The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: You, as a human being, have been bestowed with the capacity to suffer. That's why you've suffered so many miserable struggles throughout your life. But, for you, all this suffering was a pointless waste of your life that didn't develop you as an individual, since it didn't change your philosophy. As a matter of fact, all your suffering has only served to reinforce your philosophy. According to your philosophy, there was nothing good about your suffering, since feeling good is the only good thing in life. So, for you, the capacity to suffer like this is a worthless capacity.

My Reply: Right. I've been bestowed with that capacity and allowed to suffer. I couldn't will myself out of my suffering, which means I had to just bear through it all. That was no way to live for me. If the spirit world (astral realm) exists, then it seems the beings there want us to suffer. As a matter of fact, these beings have been known to preach the value and necessity of suffering time and time again, according to many mystical, spiritual teachings. But, I think these beings are preaching a false doctrine.

If there was any loving being in the astral realm, then he would've somehow prevented all my suffering, or healed my mind of all that suffering. Since that didn't happen, then I conclude that all the beings in the astral realm are unloving beings who preach a false doctrine. In order to prevent these beings from having me reincarnate into another Earthly life of pointless, inevitable suffering, I'll have to slaughter them the moment my soul leaves my dead body. If I had the choice, I'd choose to instantly vaporize every single being in the astral realm.

Other Person's Response: If there was any loving being in the astral realm, then he could've prevented that worthless capacity from being bestowed upon you. That way, you would've never had these miserable struggles, and you would've been happy your entire life.

My Reply: Right. A loving being would ensure my happiness, after all. But, since none of these beings have ensured my happiness, then that must mean they're all unloving beings. I could be wrong about these beings. But, living a miserable life is unacceptable for me, and causes me to feel like slaughtering them.

Other Person's Response: If these beings wanted you to suffer because they wanted you to develop a better philosophy, then it's clearly not working. So, they should've chosen another option instead. Suffering isn't the only path to personal growth, and all your suffering was just a waste of your life. As a matter of fact, you didn't even become more loving, giving, and compassionate through your struggles. So, it would be best if these beings have chosen another option as a means of personal growth.

My Reply: I agree. These beings can see into the future, which means they would've known all along that my miserable struggles wouldn't have changed my philosophy. So, why didn't they just choose another alternative? For example, rather than having me undergo horrible, inevitable suffering that wasted 12 years of my life, they could've had me undergo a powerful, positive, life-transforming experience that changed my philosophy, and transformed me into a more giving, compassionate, loving person.

Other Person's Response: What if no positive experience would ever change your philosophy?

My Reply: Then that's just the way it is. There's nothing that can be done to change my philosophy.

Other Person's Response: Many near death experiences transform the lives of individuals. There's one near death account where a person lost his attachment to his family, friends, and materialistic things, since having near death experiences alters us in some way, given that they're powerful, life-transforming experiences, and the beings in the astral realm desire such personal transformations. But, that person was miserable because he lost his attachment to so many people and things. That means he did have one attachment, which would be an attachment to attachment.

If he didn't have that attachment, then he wouldn't have been miserable about the fact that he's no longer attached to so many people and things. He just wouldn't care. If the beings in the astral realm wanted him to lose his attachments as a means of personal growth and transformation, then why did they leave him with that one attachment, but stripped him of all those other attachments? It seems to me they just wanted him to be miserable. So, these beings could be Archons who wanted to feed off his misery.

My Reply: Right.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: Since people can be rendered without the capacity to see, hear, smell, taste, feel pain, feel pleasure, and feel joy, then these beings could've rendered you without the capacity to suffer.

My Reply: Right. My miserable struggles, along with all the other negative emotions that came with these struggles, were unnecessary suffering.

Other Person's Response: You said that you only feel violently enraged during a miserable moment, since said moments are caused by traumatizing thoughts and worries, which cause you to feel all sorts of negative emotions, such as rage, hate, disgust, horror, etc. That's why you feel like slaughtering those beings during your miserable moments. But, once you're fully recovered from your misery, you're happy again, and you no longer feel rage.

My Reply: Right. But, when I'm happy, I could make myself feel good about slaughtering them.

Other Person's Response: If these beings wanted you to suffer because they wanted you to develop a better philosophy, then it's clearly not working. So, they should've chosen another option as a means of personal growth. Suffering isn't the only path to personal growth, and all your suffering was just a waste of your life. As a matter of fact, you didn't even become more loving, giving, and compassionate through your struggles.

My Reply: I agree. These beings can see into the future, which means they would've known all along that my miserable struggles wouldn't have changed my philosophy. So, why didn't they just choose another alternative? For example, rather than having me undergo horrible, inevitable suffering that wasted 12 years of my life, they could've had me undergo a powerful, positive, life-transforming experience that changed my philosophy, and transformed me into a more giving, compassionate, loving person.

After all, people do have positive, blissful experiences that change them and their lives for the better. An example would be people who go on heavenly, blissful trips to the afterlife during their near death experience. People who have such experiences, and come back to life, report that they've been transformed. They report that their souls have had a profoundly beautiful, life-changing experience in the heavenly afterlife, and that they came back from this experience with a much better outlook on life. They report that they're much more giving, loving, compassionate people as a result of this experience.

Other Person's Response: You say that all your miserable struggles were inevitable suffering. That's not true because you have free will. That means you could've chosen to avoid those struggles, which means those struggles weren't inevitable. But, if you didn't have free will, then your struggles would've been inevitable, since you'd have no choice but to have them.

My Reply: Let's pretend that a person was wanting to take drugs, and he believed the lie that drugs aren't harmful to one's body and brain. He's obviously going to take those drugs, which means his act of taking them is inevitable. But, if he knew that drugs are harmful, then he might not take them. So, my point is, I don't think we have free will, and that all our actions are determined by our knowledge, experience, personality, beliefs, etc.

Other Person's Response: What if that person didn't take drugs, even though he wanted to, and believed that lie? He could've thought to himself: "I have free will, and I'm going to choose not to take those drugs," and that thought prevents him from taking them.

My Reply: It wouldn't have been his free will that stopped him from taking drugs. Rather, it was his knowledge of free will that did, combined with with his personality (his personality being someone who wishes to act against fates that seem inevitable, such as the seemingly inevitable fate of taking drugs when you want to take them, and believe the lie that they're not harmful).

Other Person's Response: It's controversial as to whether humans have free will or not, and you're undecided when it comes to controversial topics. So, you should be undecided if free will exists or not.

My Reply: Right. But, I still like to point certain things out anyway (such as my own personal arguments against free will).

Other Person's Response: If people don't have free will, then that means it's not our choice to change as individuals.

My Reply: Right. My mother has people in her life who are cruel to her, she says they have the choice to change, and that they're choosing to remain cruel. But, if they don't have free will, then they have no choice but to remain cruel.

Other Person's Response: If humans don't have free will, then that means these beings in the astral realm can have you reincarnate into many Earthly lives of inevitable suffering. Such suffering would be inevitable because you don't have the free will to avoid it.

My Reply: Right. Also, when we reincarnate, our knowledge and memories are erased. The knowledge I've acquired through my miserable struggles is that there could be astral beings who want me to suffer, and that I'm going to rebel against their desire by keeping myself happy from now on by no longer having thoughts and worries that would make me miserable. So, I've learned to stop having such thoughts and worries.

I've also acquired the knowledge that feeling good really could be the only good thing in life because, during all my miserable struggles, there wasn't a single good moment for me in the absence of my good feelings. Having this knowledge is preventing me from having anymore of these miserable struggles because I want to feel good from now on. But, this knowledge could be erased by these beings before I reincarnate into a new Earthly body. Thus, I might have more inevitable, miserable struggles during another lifetime.

Other Person's Response: There are religious believers who say we've lived thousands of lives. Let's pretend this life you're living now is your 2,500th incarnation. I'm quite sure you've had miserable struggles in a previous incarnation (lifetime), and learned to stop making yourself miserable by no longer having thoughts and worries that would make you miserable.

Thus, you would've ended your miserable struggles in that lifetime. So, the very fact you're having these miserable struggles again in this lifetime must mean that lesson you've learned in a previous life must've been erased by these astral beings, just so you can suffer another series of miserable struggles in this lifetime. This cycle might continue on and on. In other words, you might reincarnate and have more of these miserable struggles.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: If there was someone acting, and I thought to myself: "I see that as bad acting," then I'd be seeing that as bad acting. I don't need to feel bad in order to see it as bad.

My Reply: If you didn't feel bad about the acting, then you'd just be seeing the acting as flawed. So, from your perspective, the acting would be flawed, but not bad. If you wish to see it as bad, then you need to feel bad about it.

Other Person's Response: It's up to each individual to conclude, based upon his/her personal experience, what he/she thinks is love, happiness, good, bad, beauty, horror, etc.

My Reply: Yes, and my personal experience says they're emotions.

Other Person's Response: Did you define it as a good thing to persevere in your hobbies, despite feeling miserable, and unable to feel good?

My Reply: Yes, and that definition didn't work for me. Therefore, I've concluded that feeling good is the only good thing in life.

Other Person's Response: I realize your personal experience says that living a miserable, unhappy, or apathetic existence is no way to live or be an artist.

My Reply: Yes. But, I realize there are people who've concluded otherwise, based upon their personal experience. Well then, that's just their personal experience, which means they have their own philosophies that oppose my philosophy.

Other Person's Response: What if people told you that there were famous, genius, miserable artists who've inspired the world through their artwork? Would that change your view that living a miserable existence is no way to live or be an artist?

My Reply: No, because no amount of reasoning will change my philosophy. So, I'll always have this view that a miserable existence is no way to live or be an artist until my personal experience says otherwise.

Other Person's Response: It would be a mistake to assume that you'd need to become a selfless, giving person in order for your philosophy to change to a better one because there are self-centered people who live by a better philosophy than yours. For example, selfish villains in movies don't need to feel positive emotions because they have superior motives that keep them set on their goals, even while they're miserable, apathetic, or unhappy.

My Reply: Even if, let's pretend, I did become one of the most selfless, giving people in the world, I still don't think that would change my philosophy. So, even if I became a self-sacrificing individual, I still think I'd need to feel good about my acts of self-sacrifice in order for said acts to be good.

Other Person's Response: There are religious believers who say that we need suffering in order to know joy. But, if that's true, then we only need a little bit of suffering. Our souls acquire knowledge and experience through multiple lives (incarnations), and we'd only need a little bit of suffering in one lifetime to know joy. We don't need to suffer in other lifetimes.

My Reply: Right. Also, I've felt profound joy in the past, even when I hardly suffered back then.

Other Person's Response: According to your philosophy, if a criminal felt good about himself, then that makes him a good person, since feeling good is the only good thing in life. If police felt good about catching him, then it would be a good thing if they did so. So, that means it would be a good thing if they caught this criminal (who's a good person).

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: I could even imagine myself as being any anime character I want to be, and I could imagine myself experiencing that character's feelings of joy, love, beauty, etc., which would allow me to experience those feelings.

My Reply: Yes. It would be as though you've become a new character with new feelings. For example, if you're a guy who experiences masculine feelings of love, and you imagined yourself as being a female character, then you'd now get to experience feminine feelings of love. Emotions are qualities of being, which means that female character's very being, and her feminine love, can't exist as a part of you if you had no ability to feel emotions. So, without your emotions, that female character would just be in your imagination. But, her presence would just be a mere thought or image, and not an actual entity that seems alive and real as a part of you.

Other Person's Response: Emotions are qualities of being because, when a person feels happy, he becomes a happy person (being) on the inside, when a person feels sad or angry, he becomes a sad or angry person on the inside, when a person feels love, he becomes a loving person, etc. Without our ability to feel emotions, we'd just be apathetic beings. We'd be hollow on the inside, regardless of our actions, deeds, expressions, etc.

My Reply: Right. Without our emotions, we couldn't even become loving, joyful anime characters on the inside, even if we imagined ourselves as being said characters, and role played as them. There were many moments in my life where I was unable to feel emotions, and I could clearly tell that I was hollow/apathetic on the inside.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: I consider hedonism to be a cursed philosophy because there are many hedonists who are miserable as a result of their poor, self-defeating, hedonistic views.

My Reply: Actually, having a hedonistic view isn't the curse. What I consider to be the curse is having thoughts and worries that would make one miserable or traumatized. It's possible to have a hedonistic view and not become miserable or traumatized as a result of said view. For example, if a hedonist lost his ability to feel pleasure, he doesn't need to become miserable or traumatized about that. He could instead just accept his loss and try to find ways to restore his pleasure. I was once miserable because I lost my ability to feel positive emotions. But, that miserable moment is done and over with. So, from now on, if I lose my ability to feel positive emotions, I won't be miserable about that loss, and I'll simply find ways to restore my positive emotions.

Other Person's Response: Negative emotions, including feelings of misery, desensitize (fade away on their own over time). So, if a person was miserable because he lost his loved one, then he'd be miserable for a while. But, that misery would eventually go away, since he's being exposed to said misery for a long time.

My Reply: Yes. I think that's why I was able to fully recover from all my miserable struggles.

Other Person's Response: If Andrew was traumatized by the loss of his loved one, and he perceived that loss as horrible and tragic, then that loss would be horrible and tragic for a while until he accepts that loss and moves forward in life. Once he's fully recovered from his emotional trauma, and he no longer sees his loss as horrible and tragic, then that loss is no longer horrible and tragic.

If Brian were to come along and tell him: "Your loss is still horrible and tragic, even though you no longer see it as horrible and tragic," then that loss wouldn't be horrible and tragic in Andrew's life. Each person is the author of his life, which means we create the beauty, tragedy, horror, etc. in our lives/mental universes.

If a person isn't creating any tragedy in his life (that is, if he's not perceiving anything as tragic), then there's no tragedy in his life/mental universe. So, to tell him that there are still tragic things in his life would be false because tragedy only exists for those who perceive it. In other words, an event would be tragic in one person's life if he perceived it as tragic, but nothing tragic in another person's life if he didn't perceive it as tragic.

My Reply: Right. Good, bad, beauty, tragedy, etc. are things we create ourselves. Our thoughts alone can't create the good, bad, etc. It's once those thoughts make us feel good, bad, etc. that good, bad, etc. are created.

Other Person's Response: If a person felt that time was going very slow, then it would seem as though time is going slow for him. But, if he had no ability to feel emotions, then that means he's apathetic. So, it wouldn't matter to him how much time passes.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: A simple, short tune can convey a powerful, profound, memorable feeling for the audience. So, that's why simple, short tunes can be great.

My Reply: Yes. For me, composing is all about the feeling (emotion), and not about if my compositions meet a high technical standard. In other words, I don't need to create compositions that meet a high standard of sound quality and craftsmanship in order for my compositions to be great or amazing. I can just compose some simple, short tunes that convey the awesome, powerful, profound, otherworldly, memorable feeling I wish to convey, and that would be good enough. Even though they'd be simple, short tunes, they'd still be great, amazing compositions because of the emotion they convey. After all, even simple works of art can be great and amazing.

Other Person's Response: So, you don't wish to compose like Beethoven?

My Reply: I don't need to compose masterpieces like he does. So, when I create a tune or song, it doesn't need to be a complicated masterpiece in order for the audience to glorify it.

Other Person's Response: I heard that you wish to create tunes that convey what you want to convey for the audience. But, if you study the rules of music theory, and you end up creating tunes that convey certain scenes for you, but don't for the audience, then the issue isn't what your tunes sound like for you, as opposed to what they sound like for the audience. The issue is how you're perceiving your tunes, as opposed to how the audience is perceiving them.

My Reply: Right. When composing music, I wish to create music that expresses what I want to express for the audience, and not just for me. Hopefully, I'll be able to achieve this goal, and won't run into the issue you've presented.

Other Person's Response: You say that you normally feel positive emotions when you're not having an emotional trauma, and you normally don't feel negative emotions. So, does that mean you'd normally feel joy, even during the most difficult learning curves in music theory?

My Reply: That's right. Normally, when I learn how to compose, I experience no negativity, such as frustration, rage, misery, etc. But, I'd have those negative experiences (negative emotions) during an emotional trauma.

Other Person's Response: Many people would say that suicide is selfish and cowardly. But, when a person is in a miserable, suicidal state of mind, others come along and tell him something, such as: "Life's still precious and beautiful. You shouldn't give up," then such comments couldn't matter to him. Only the negative matters to him, and not the positive. So, how could one expect him to not commit suicide?

My Reply: Right. If he couldn't feel any positive emotion, and he only felt negative emotions, then that means only the negative could matter to him, such as giving up and ending his life, harming himself and others, etc.

Other Person's Response: You've had miserable, suicidal moments where nothing positive mattered to you. Yet, you didn't commit suicide.

My Reply: Right. So, a person can still make certain choices, regardless of his state of mind, such as choosing to not commit suicide, even though he's in a miserable, suicidal state of mind.

Other Person's Response: If people don't have free will, then that means people who commit suicide had no choice in their act of suicide.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: Since that person's act of taking drugs was inevitable, then that means he didn't have free will.

My Reply: Right. Having free will means that our actions aren't inevitable. It would also mean our thoughts and beliefs aren't inevitable. But, a person can't choose what he believes in. An example would be how people are brainwashed to believe certain lies. So, their unfortunate circumstance of believing these lies was inevitable, which means they didn't have free will.

Other Person's Response: In regards to selfishness, it's not natural, and it's against nature because our natural state of being is divine, where we are selfless and giving, interconnected with other humans, have unconditional love and compassion towards one another, etc.

My Reply: I think selfishness is natural and a part of nature. After all, there are many animals, insects, and reptiles that are selfish. So, it's natural to be selfish, and it's also natural to be selfless because there are selfless animals, insects, and reptiles.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: According to your philosophy, the beings in the astral realm aren't all-loving because an all-loving being would preserve what's good (good feelings). So, an all-loving being would ensure humanity's good feelings by healing them of clinical depression (which is a mental illness known to take away a person's good feelings), healing them of misery and emotional traumas, etc.

My Reply: Yes. As a matter of fact, these beings could've created us as beings who are incapable of having clinical depression, misery, emotional trauma, etc. In other words, they could've created us as perfect, utopian beings, and they could've created a utopia world for us. But, since these beings aren't doing this, then they're just letting the good waste away because there are plenty of miserable, depressed, unhappy, and apathetic people.

Other Person's Response: This world is a very dystopian life, where people go through unnecessary suffering. For example, there are people who have such poor quality of life, due to a certain mental or physical illness, that they require assisted suicide. So, you're not the only one who had much unnecessary suffering in his life.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I heard that the style of music you wish to compose is music that conveys an otherworldly, awesome, powerful, profound mood. An example of such music would be heavy, booming bass (like the heavy bass you hear from cars) with an enchanting woman witch who has an evil, heavy, powerful, singing voice. There'd also be an enchanting male astronaut to give an even more otherworldly feeling to the musical piece. This music would have otherworldly instruments to it as well.

My Reply: Yes. The heavy bass would convey a heavy mood, and the rest that goes along with the bass would convey a heavy, otherworldly, evil mood. As of now, I'm not a skilled composer at all, and I'm only composing rubbish tunes.

Other Person's Response: According to your philosophy, your music can't be awesome if people, including you, couldn't feel awesome about it.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I heard you wish to be a composer because you wish to impact the world through your music. But, let's pretend you lived on life support and never had the opportunity to be a composer. You could still impact the world in other ways, such as being a kind inspiration to others.

My Reply: But, I wish to impact the world in such a way that the feelings I wish to be expressed are expressed to the world. The feelings I wish to express are bizarre, otherworldly, powerful, profound feelings, and such feelings can only be expressed through a field of art. I've chosen composing to express those feelings. If I were to instead impact the world in some other way, such as being a kind person who helps others, then not only would those otherworldly feelings not be expressed to the world, but I'd be impacting the world in a normal, human way, rather than an abnormal, inhuman way. You see, I wish to astonish the audience with music that's unique, out of the ordinary, and not human. I don't wish to astonish people by normal, human means, such as living on life support and being a kind inspiration to others.

Other Person's Response: So, you wish to astonish the world through your otherworldly music, and feel positive emotions from people praising your music?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: If someone was living on life support, and he had no artistic skill whatsoever, then how could he possibly convey the powerful, profound feelings that great works of art convey? For example, if there were people who never listened to Beethoven's symphonies, then how could that person on life support possibly convey the sheer magnificence of these symphonies to others? In addition, there are certain feelings that can only be conveyed through works of art, which means a person can't convey such feelings to others if he's just an average person with no artistic skill.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: If you had to live on life support, then people would never get to realize the great artist that dwelled within you, since they'd never get to hear your music.

My Reply: Right. I'd just be a normal, kind, inspirational human being in their eyes. But, they'd never get to witness the otherworldly power I wanted to express through my music.

Other Person's Response: Life's unfair and doesn't always work in our favor. So, if you never got the opportunity to pursue your composing dream because you had to live on life support, or because of some other unfortunate circumstance, then that's just the way it is. You'd just have to accept the fact that you'd have to impact the world in a normal, human way, rather than through the otherworldly music you wanted to create.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: According to your philosophy, it's only the emotions we feel that are great, awesome, magnificent, etc. So, if a work of art conveyed a certain emotion, then it wouldn't be conveying anything great, awesome, magnificent, etc.

My Reply: Right. According to my philosophy, our emotions make everything, including works of art, great, awesome, magnificent, etc. in our lives/mental universes. If everyone had no ability to feel emotions, then no work of art could be great or awesome, regardless of what emotion a work of art conveyed. When we feel a certain emotion in regards to a work of art, such as a feeling of awesomeness, that feeling is what bestows awesome power to the work of art, and makes that work of art awesome. A feeling of awesomeness is a perception of awesomeness, and the only awesomeness that works of art possess is the awesomeness we perceive in works of art (i.e., the awesomeness we personally give/attribute to works of art).

Other Person's Response: You said you're interested in playing video games and watching anime. So, aren't you interested in learning as much as you can about video games and anime?

My Reply: No. So, I just play video games for the adventure and fun. But, I don't study up on video games. The same thing applies to watching anime. I just watch it because I'm fascinated by it, entertained by it, and I love to witness the characters, their personalities, expressions, powers, actions, etc. But, I don't study up on anime. Like I said though, composing is the subject I do wish to study because I want to create music that expresses the feelings I wish to express to the audience.
 
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The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: I agree that emotions are perceptions, and I agree that emotions are good, bad, beautiful, horrific, etc., based upon how they feel. But, emotions aren't the only good, bad, etc. things in life. There's another form of good, bad, etc., which comes through our actions and deeds. For example, it would still be a good thing to help others, even if we're unable to feel good about doing so, and it would still be a bad thing to harm others, even if we're unable to feel bad about doing so.

My Reply: I don't think there can be 2 forms of good, bad, etc. I think there can only be 1 form, and that would be the emotional form. My personal experience has led me to the conclusion that emotions are the only good, bad, etc. things in life.

Other Person's Response: Some people say there are two forms of good, bad, etc. There's the personal version (which comes through our personal feelings). For example, if someone felt good about doing something, then that feeling/perception is good. Then, there's the form of good, bad, etc. that's non-personal, since this form disregards our personal feelings. It just focuses on getting deeds done, or refraining from certain deeds, regardless of our feelings/perceptions. According to your philosophy, this form doesn't exist, and only the feeling version exists.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Emotions do desensitize upon exposure. For example, if a person had a phobia, then his feeling of fear would disappear with continued exposure to it. The fact that emotions desensitize serves a major benefit for you because, if they didn't, then that means you'd be trapped in a miserable state, and wouldn't be able to recover from it. So, if you had an emotional trauma, and emotions couldn't desensitize, then you'd just have to live with that trauma the rest of your life, as well as all the negative emotions that come with that trauma, such as misery, hate, disgust, etc.

I could only imagine just how horrible of an existence that would be for you. Especially considering the philosophy you live by, which says that negative emotions are horrible forms of suffering we should avoid. So, you're fortunate that negative emotions do desensitize. But, when it comes to chronic, physical pain, and chronic, clinical depression, I don't think they desensitize. So, that means people have to live with these things the rest of their lives. Unless, of course, they somehow recover from them. Then they don't have to live with them anymore.

My Reply: Right. As for depression, there are 2 forms. The 1st form would be emotional, such as feeling depressed because you lost your loved one. The 2nd form would be clinical depression, which is a mental illness, and said depression isn't caused by a person's way of thinking or believing. It's just depression that happens because something went wrong with the brain. I don't have clinical depression.

So, all my depression was caused by worries and negative thinking. Since my depression was emotional, then that depression has faded away on its own because I was constantly exposed to it. But, if I had clinical depression, then that depression wouldn't fade away, even if I was constantly exposed to it. So, if I wanted to ease my clinical depression, I'd have to take medication for it, and try other methods.

Other Person's Response: There is PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), where a person continues to experience emotional trauma, and has to live with that trauma the rest of his life. That's because PTSD is a mental illness where the brain can't properly desensitize negative emotions.

My Reply: Right, and I wouldn't want PTSD because that means I'd have to live with negative emotions all throughout my life.

Other Person's Response: I heard that you're mostly not in the mood to jog during the day. If you were to jog anyway when you're not in the mood for it, that really drains your energy, which means you become very slow at performing daily tasks, such as taking out the trash. But, during the night, you're in the mood to jog. If you were to jog when you're in the mood for it, then that doesn't drain your energy very much.

My Reply: Right. I mostly jog during the day, which means I have to do a very slow jog, so that my energy doesn't get drained very much. Jogging can't matter to me anyway when I'm not in the mood for it, which would make it that more difficult for me to do a moderate or fast jog. But, during the night, I'm able to go faster, and keep up that pace. Also, even if I had my full capacity to feel positive emotions, I still don't think I'd be in the mood to jog during the day. For whatever reason, I'm just not in the mood for it during the day.

Other Person's Response: Sometimes, you are in the mood to jog during the day.

My Reply: That's right. But, for the most part, I'm not in the mood for it during the day.

Other Person's Response: I heard that you've been jogging for a while now, which means you can keep up a faster pace.

My Reply: Yes. When I'm in the mood to jog, perhaps I'm able to keep up a 4.2 mph jogging speed for an hour. Again, I'm not sure what speed I'm able to keep up. But, like I said, during the day, I go at a very slow pace, since I'm not in the mood to jog.
 

The Transcended Omniverse

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Other Person's Response: When our souls are in the heavenly afterlife, we're in a state of bliss 24/7, and there's no illness, misery, or suffering. So, I don't see why we can't be such blissful beings here on Earth.

My Reply: Right. It seems these astral beings don't think that bliss and an absence of negative emotions is the best thing for humanity. Otherwise, they would've ensured that we're such blissful, non-suffering beings here on Earth. So, it seems they don't care much about positivity. To them, positivity isn't divine and holy, and negativity isn't something unholy that needs to be avoided. But, according to my philosophy, these beings are incorrect to assume that positivity is trivial and unnecessary. Our divine nature is bliss (positivity) and an absence of negativity (negative emotions). In heaven, we're in this divine state 24/7. But, here on Earth, that state is difficult to obtain, and these beings really don't care.

Other Person's Response: If we were blissful beings here on Earth with no suffering or illness, then we'd be avoiding a lot of unnecessary suffering and illness here on Earth.

My Reply: Right. That means people could fully pursue their talents, goals, and dreams without having to live on life support, since we'd have perfect bodies that are incapable of illness, bodies that can instantly heal from damage, bodies that can instantly regenerate, etc.

Other Person's Response: In the future, science might find a way to make us beings who are blissful 24/7 and incapable of illness, misery, or suffering.

My Reply: Right. Since these beings haven't done this for us, then it's up to science.

Other Person's Response: We can have perfect bodies in heaven if we wanted to, right?

My Reply: Yes. So, that means we don't have to be souls roaming around in heaven without a body.

Other Person's Response: It would make no sense for these beings to erase the forms of personal growth you've obtained in previous lives, just so you can start out in new lives with this shallow, hedonistic philosophy. So, perhaps these beings don't exist, there's no afterlife, no reincarnation, and this is the one and only life you've lived.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: If I was a Christian who believed I was going to suffer an eternity in hell, and that I have no hope of being saved, no matter what I do, then that would be an emotional trauma for me that would take much longer to recover from than being traumatized because I lost my loved one.

My Reply: Right. The worse an emotional trauma is, the longer the recovery process tends to be.
 

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Other Person's Response: If a person had insomnia, and he had the thought of being sleepy, then that thought can't make him sleepy. He'd need to take some sleep medication to restore his feeling of sleepiness. That way, he can be sleepy again. Likewise, when a clinically depressed person is unable to feel wanting or liking, and he had the thought of wanting or liking something, then that thought can't make him want or like that thing. He'd need to take some antidepressants to restore his feelings of wanting and liking, so he can want and like things again.

My Reply: Right. Also, that sleep analogy does work. But, the difference being that a feeling of sleepiness isn't an emotional state, and wanting and liking are emotional states.

Other Person's Response: Since love, happiness, and perceptions of beauty are also emotions, then a clinically depressed person would need to take antidepressants to restore those emotions as well, wouldn't he?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Here's a link that talks about positive emotions being the reward wanting and liking in the brain:

We have found a special hedonic hotspot that is crucial for reward 'liking' and 'wanting' (and codes reward learning too). The opioid hedonic hotspot is shown in red above. It works together with another hedonic hotspot in the more famous nucleus accumbens to generate pleasure 'liking'.

‘Liking’ and ‘wanting’ food rewards: Brain substrates and roles in eating disorders

Kent C. Berridge 2009 Mar 29.

‘Liking’ and ‘wanting’ food rewards: Brain substrates and roles in eating disorders

Here's another article as well:

Dissecting components of reward: ‘liking’, ‘wanting’, and learning

My Reply: Thanks for sharing.

Other Person's Response: Since emotions are feelings of wanting, liking, and disliking, then that means emotions possess qualities of wanting, liking, and disliking, which makes emotions wanting, liking, and disliking.

My Reply: Yes, and the same idea applies to emotions being good, bad, beauty, horror, love, happiness, compassion, etc. Our emotions possess those qualities as well.

Other Person's Response: Our emotions are nothing more than just feelings. They don't possess any of the qualities mentioned above.

My Reply: I think people who say this are delusional and in denial because my personal experience says emotions do possess those qualities.

Other Person's Response: Since positive emotions are the only perceptions of goodness, beauty, and awesomeness, and since they're the reward wanting and liking, then that means we see goodness, beauty, and awesomeness in things through rewarding feelings of wanting and liking.

My Reply: Yes. Also, when you, for example, have the thought that something is good, and said thought isn't just a thought that this thing is good, but is something you want or like, then that thought would normally make you feel good, and that good feeling would be a feeling of wanting or liking. But, like I said, there are circumstances that can prevent that thought from making you feel that emotion, such as having clinical depression, emotional trauma, mental fatigue, etc.

Other Person's Response: So, when thoughts make us feel emotions, the qualities that our thoughts possess become emotional qualities? That's why a good thought of wanting or liking becomes a good feeling of wanting or liking?

My Reply: Yes. But, remember, the thoughts alone can't be good, wanting, liking, disliking, beauty, horror, love, hate, etc. Only our emotions can. So, our thoughts alone don't actually possess any of those qualities. Rather, they're simply ideas of those qualities. It's our emotions that possess those qualities. Therefore, our thoughts alone don't possess any loving, hateful, good, bad, horrific, etc. power, and only our emotions do.

Other Person's Response: I really hope science finds cures in the future for depression and other mental illnesses that take away our ability to feel positive emotions. That way, people can have their love, happiness, goodness, beauty, wanting, liking, etc. restored back to them.

My Reply: Right. Also, if I had a cure for this recent, emotional trauma I've had, then I would've been cured the exact moment I had the trauma, which means I wouldn't have to go through all that misery, negativity, and absence of positive emotions. It took a very long time for me to recover from this emotional trauma, which means I had to wait for my positive emotions to return, and I had to endure through all that suffering. It was no way to live or be a composer for me, and I could've avoided all that waiting and suffering if I had a cure right then and there.

Other Person's Response: The astral plane (the plane corresponding to the emotional body) is considered as the plane of duality. It is, therefore, difficult to only feel positive emotions without also feeling so-called negative emotions. The yogic path teaches the cultivation of emotional serenity, so that we become free from all emotions.

This does not make us cold and uncaring. Qualities, such as love, compassion, joy, and humor are not considered as emotional states. Instead, these are seen as qualities of the Soul, or Consciousness. When the emotional body is serene and still, then these Soul qualities can be expressed without distortion.

I would suggest that consciousness is beyond all intellect and emotions. The qualities of beauty, joy, love, compassion, etc. arise spontaneously out of consciousness. These qualities may be reflected on an intellectual and emotional level. But, these are just reflections.

My Reply: Based upon my personal experience, I've concluded that these qualities are emotional, and I'd need a new personal experience to convince me otherwise.

Other Person's Response: When people claim these qualities aren't emotional, such as when they say they've obtained a state of happiness through yoga meditation, claim that said happiness isn't emotional, and say this happiness is instead a Soul quality, do you think this happiness is, in fact, emotional? So, do you think they're just getting a powerful, profound feeling of happiness from their meditation that they claim is non-emotional, when it's really emotional?

My Reply: That could be the case. No matter how powerful and profound of an emotion a person is feeling, that person shouldn't make the mistake of assuming that this feeling is something that transcends emotion, when that feeling was an emotion all along.

Other Person's Response: It could be the case that people are having powerful, positive, subconscious thoughts during their meditation that make them feel powerful, positive emotions, and they claim they're having powerful, positive experiences that are neither intellectual nor emotional, when these positive experiences were positive emotions all along.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: If a person claimed he had no ability to feel any emotions, he did certain tasks, and said these tasks mattered to him, then he must've felt some level of emotion, even though he didn't realize it.

My Reply: Right.
 
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Other Person's Response: If you were to have a discussion with someone in person, and you discussed all the material in this document, then if people would be interested and willing to listen in on that conversation, then why wouldn't they be interested and willing to read the material in this document?

My Reply: Right. If people are willing to listen, then why wouldn't they be willing to read? I know plenty of people who have conversations, and there are others listening in on those conversations. The conversations don't have excellent grammar, presentation, explanation, etc. Yet, these people are still interested in listening to those conversations. So, why wouldn't they be willing to read those conversations?

Other Person's Response: You didn't type all this information for nothing. So, if people would rather listen to you discuss all this information in person, then that would just be a waste of time and effort on your part, since you already have all that information typed out for others to read.

My Reply: Right. Not only that, when I type, I have plenty of time to plan and think, which would make the written material better planned and thought out than if I were to discuss the material in person. Also, if I were to instead have a discussion in person, then I'd have to remember as much written material as I can. But, I forget things often, which means I'd forget much of the written material.

Other Person's Response: If someone says that it would be a good thing to harm others if we felt good about doing it, then such a statement isn't necessarily indicative of a cold, unloving, serial killer. It could instead be indicative of someone whose emotions have power and control over him/her.

My Reply: Right. So, the very fact I have this philosophy doesn't mean I have the outlook of a cold, unloving, serial killer. It could just mean my emotions have complete dominance over my life. So, if someone says emotions are the only good and bad things, then it could just mean that this person is simply allowing his emotions to be the sole determiner of good and bad in his life. It doesn't mean this person is a serial killer or a cold, unloving individual.

Other Person's Response: You claim that love and happiness are positive emotions. I don't think you know what love and happiness are. They're things that go far beyond fleeting, emotional states.

My Reply: But, even scientists claim that love and happiness are positive emotions, and there's debate between scientists and other people in regards to what love and happiness are.

Other Person's Response: If someone was in a miserable, suicidal state of mind, couldn't see it as a good thing to help others, and someone came along and told that miserable person that he should endure his misery like a tough man, and help others anyway because it's still a good thing, then that would be inconsiderate because that person is in a horrible, miserable, suicidal state of mind, where he can't see goodness in anything.

Being in that state of mind is no way to live, and anyone who says otherwise would be inconsiderate. It would, therefore, be inconsiderate to tell that miserable, suicidal individual that he doesn't need to recover back into a positive state of mind (where he's able to see goodness in things), and that he instead just needs to focus on living the best he can, helping others, making contributions to the world, etc.

My Reply: Right. Our state of mind (perception) is what's important here, and must be taken into consideration when we're doing tasks and deeds. That's something that should never be dismissed. I, myself, have had miserable, suicidal perceptions (feelings) during my miserable struggles, and I couldn't see goodness in anything. People still told me to live the best I can anyway, to help others, contribute to the world, etc. But, these people would be inconsiderate and dismissive.
 

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Other Person's Response: Your hedonistic philosophy faces an issue, which would be that it would be a good thing to harm others if we saw it as a good thing (felt it was a good thing). But, non-hedonistic philosophies also face an issue, which would be that it would still be a good thing to help others, even when we're in a miserable, suicidal state of mind, where we can't see helping others as a good thing (can't feel good about helping others). It's an issue because some people would disagree that it's still a good thing to help others if we can't see it as a good thing.

The issues these philosophies face are seemingly falsehoods (or absurdities). In other words, they make these philosophies seem false. So, people could name call you because of the absurdity your philosophy faces. They could call you a cold serial killer for thinking that it would be a good thing to harm others if we felt good about doing it. But, at the same time, you could name call others because of the absurdity their non-hedonistic philosophies face.

My Reply: Right. But, I'm not the type of person to name call others.

Other Person's Response: I heard that the astral beings want us to suffer, so we can develop as individuals. But, if a person suffers during a lifetime, and doesn't develop, then he must reincarnate and go through all that suffering again during another lifetime. This cycle of reincarnation and suffering will continue until that person finally develops. I realize all your miserable struggles have never transformed you as an individual, since you still live by this hedonistic philosophy. So, I think that means you're going to undergo all these miserable struggles again in another lifetime.

My Reply: Like I said, I think that's pointless, unnecessary suffering, when I could just have a powerful, positive, blissful experience that transforms me as an individual. Besides, no matter how many lifetimes of suffering I go through, that might never change my philosophy. So, why not just give me one of those powerful, heavenly, blissful, life-transforming experiences?

Other Person's Response: If these astral beings want your philosophy to change, but it can never change, then your philosophy is just your personal view, and these beings would be imposing their philosophy upon you by having you go through lives of misery. These beings think misery, apathy, and unhappiness is a good thing, while your philosophy says it's not a good thing. So, these beings should be working in your favor by ensuring your good feelings, rather than imposing their values upon you.

My Reply: I agree.

Other Person's Response: If someone had the thought of wanting or liking a movie, but didn't think it was a good movie, and that thought made him feel wanting or liking, then does that mean he'd want or like the movie, but won't see the movie as good, since the feeling of wanting or liking he got wasn't a good feeling?

My Reply: Correct.

Other Person's Response: You still have thoughts that certain animals are adorable, and said thoughts normally make you feel that they're adorable, right?

My Reply: Yes. So, just because I'm not attached to animals, and not bothered by their death or suffering, doesn't mean they don't matter to me at all. If they didn't matter to me at all, then I wouldn't have had that feeling of adoration.

Other Person's Response: You said earlier that feelings of beauty need to be good feelings. So, if someone felt beauty, and it wasn't a good feeling, then wouldn't that mean that feeling of beauty wasn't holy? Likewise, if someone feels disgust or horror, and it wasn't a bad feeling, then wouldn't that mean that feeling wasn't unholy?

My Reply: I think you're right.
 

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Other Person's Response: Emotions are moods. So, a feeling of horror is a horrific mood, which is a perception of horror, which is a horrific emotion. Our moods are mental atmospheres. So, a feeling of horror would be a horrific, mental atmosphere.

My Reply: Right. Also, many people tend to trivialize moods. But, they're not trivial. They're the only beauty, horror, goodness, badness, tragedy, love, hate, etc.

Other Person's Response: When artists talk about conveying beauty, horror, tragedy, love, hate, etc. through their artwork, they're talking about conveying moods.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: If I felt bad (was in a bad mood), then you're saying it wouldn't be a good thing if I helped others and made contributions to the world, since good moods are the only good things?

My Reply: That's right. When you do any given task or deed, then you need to feel good about it in order for it to be a good thing. So, when a person is playing his video game, he's experiencing a mental stimulus (the video game). But, that mental stimulus can't just be a mental stimulus. It needs to be accompanied by another mental state/experience, which would be a good, awesome, or beautiful mood (mental atmosphere). In other words, he needs to feel goodness, awesomeness, or beauty in regards to his video game in order for it to be good, awesome, or beautiful in his personal life/mental universe.

Other Person's Response: Are sexually erotic moods the only sexually erotic things?

My Reply: Yes. So, if nobody could have these moods, then nobody and nothing could be sexually erotic.

Other Person's Response: Are magnificent moods the only magnificent things?

My Reply: Yes. So, if nobody could have feelings of magnificence, then even the most talented performances and stunts couldn't be magnificent. Even if we were bestowed with genius intelligence, then that couldn't be magnificent. There are many people who treat intelligence as superior to emotions. But, without emotions, then intelligence couldn't be good, beautiful, or magnificent.

Other Person's Response: An apathetic mood is an emotionless state.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I think children say that emotions are the only good, bad, beautiful, horrific, etc. things in life. Their emotional philosophy is immature, and they just need to develop a better, mature philosophy. So, I think you're just like a child who needs to mature. I don't think you're like a cold-blooded serial killer.

My Reply: Right. But, if my philosophy was true all along, then it wouldn't make sense to say that I'm like a child who needs to develop a better philosophy. That's because feeling good really is the only good thing in life, and it would make no sense to treat other things as good besides good feelings.
 

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Other Person's Response: If there is a divine perception of goodness that we obtain through meditation, then I don't think it would be a perception of goodness in regards to harming and torturing others. I think it would be a perception of goodness in regards to helping others, doing our hobbies, etc.

My Reply: Right. The same idea applies to divine happiness and love. I don't think a person would, for example, obtain the happiness of harming others through his meditation.

Other Person's Response: If you can never convert over to a different philosophy, no matter how hard you try, then perhaps your philosophy was right all along. The truth is the truth, and it can't be changed. So, if your philosophy is true, then you'll never convert.

My Reply: Right. But, if my philosophy is true, then the only way I could convert to a different philosophy would be if I deluded myself into believing another philosophy. That's never going to happen. So, if my philosophy is true, then I'll always have this philosophy.

Other Person's Response: Sometimes, the truth can change. For example, it could be true one moment that it's raining, and true another moment that it's sunny.

My Reply: Yes. But, if it's true that feeling good is the only good thing in life, then that's a truth that can never change. So, if my philosophy is true, then it's the truth, and I won't be able to convert to a different philosophy, since all other philosophies would be incorrect with their views of good, bad, beauty, horror, love, happiness, hate, etc.

Other Person's Response: If someone had the thought that killing himself was a good thing, and that thought made him feel good about killing himself, then we might as well say it's a good thing if he kills himself, since feeling good is the only good thing, according to your philosophy.

My Reply: That's right. Good and bad are personally determined by the individual's feelings. So, if an individual personally feels good about killing himself, then, for him, it would be a good thing, since he sees it as a good thing. To tell him it's a bad thing to kill himself, even though he feels good about doing it, would be no different than telling someone that certain works of art, hobbies, foods, sports, and clothes are bad and awful, when that individual personally loves them and sees them as good. For that individual, those things would be good, since he sees them as good. For those other people, they'd be bad and awful, since they see them as bad and awful.

Other Person's Response: So, good and bad are just personal feelings/judgments/perceptions?

My Reply: Yes. The same thing applies to beauty, horror, tragedy, magnificence, etc.

Other Person's Response: Of all the lives you've lived, I'm sure you've developed a better philosophy in one of these lives. But, here you are again in this lifetime, having regressed back to this shallow, hedonistic, self-defeating philosophy you have now. Therefore, you must find a way to develop a better philosophy once again.

My Reply: I'm not sure if I've ever lived by a better philosophy in a previous life. Who knows, I could've had this hedonistic philosophy throughout all the lives I've lived. But, if the morals (good and bad) advocated by better philosophies aren't false and delusional like my philosophy says they are, and I lived by these better morals in previous lives, then it seems pointless and unnecessary for all the life lessons, knowledge, and forms of personal growth I've obtained in previous lives to be erased by these beings, just so I can start out in a new life as a shallow, dumb hedonist who must find a way to reacquire the life lessons, knowledge, and forms of personal growth I've obtained in previous lives. I just don't see the point in having to find a way to develop a better philosophy/better morals, when I've already done so in a previous life.
 

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Other Person's Response: So, the only way someone or something can be good, bad, horrific, tragic, etc. in my eyes is if I felt good, bad, horror, tragedy, etc. in regards to that person or thing?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: So, if someone thought that something was good or bad, believed something was good or bad, or believed he could perceive something as good or bad in the absence of his emotions, then those thoughts or beliefs alone wouldn't allow him to perceive something as good or bad?

My Reply: Correct. Our thoughts and beliefs alone can't allow us to perceive people and things as good or bad.

Other Person's Response: So, it could be the case that you're permanently stuck with this philosophy, and nothing will ever change it?

My Reply: That could be.

Other Person's Response: Since positive experiences are so important to you, then why not define a positive experience as something else besides positive emotions?

My Reply: I did and it didn't work for me. So, my positive emotions are the only positive experiences for me. Nothing else can be a positive experience for me, regardless of what I define as a positive experience.

Other Person's Response: If your philosophy was right all along, then positive emotions really are the only positive experiences, since they're the only good, beautiful, amazing, magnificent, etc. experiences.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: According to your philosophy, people should avoid having emotional traumas, since said traumas make them horrible, pitiful, or disgusting people, given the fact that having an emotional trauma causes an individual to have horrible, pitiful, or disgusting feelings (perceptions) in regards to himself.

My Reply: Right, and those feelings are things the individual can't help. So, a person can't help but become a horrible, pitiful, or disgusting person during his emotional trauma. I couldn't help but become such a person during my emotional traumas.

Other Person's Response: I'd imagine divine, unconditional love and happiness to be good feelings (perceptions of goodness). That's what would make them good, after all.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: Can reason alone allow us to perceive good, bad, beauty, horror, etc., even if it's at an extremely small intensity level that the individual is unable to detect?

My Reply: I don't think so. But, I could be wrong.

Other Person's Response: When reading music books for dummies (such as the book "Music Theory for Dummies"), are there some things in these books you have a difficult time understanding, even though said books are meant for dumb people to comprehend?

My Reply: Yes. When it comes to simple, straightforward things in these books, I can easily understand said things. But, when it comes to more complicated things in these books, I have a difficult time understanding said things.

Other Person's Response: Then perhaps you should have a music teacher or someone online who could clarify the things you have a hard time understanding in these books.

My Reply: I could just watch some youtube videos or read some material online that clarifies these things. After all, I've already done so with some of the material in these books. In order for me to understand something, it must be presented and explained in a way that a child could understand it, and these music books for dummies don't do that. But, there are some youtube videos and online sources that do.

Other Person's Response: So, when it comes to a more challenging musical topic than the basics (the basics being note names, the grand staff, etc.), then these more challenging topics must be presented and explained in a way that a child could understand them? So, they must be explained as clear, thorough, and simple as possible? Otherwise, you'd have a difficult time understanding them?

My Reply: Yes. So, if someone explains anything to me that's more challenging than the basics, then I'd be confused and start to misinterpret things being explained to me if said explanations aren't in a format that a child could understand.

Other Person's Response: I just think you lack the necessary knowledge and experience to understand things. So, if you had a lot of knowledge and experience, then nobody would have to present and explain things to you like a child. If you were highly intelligent, then you could even understand explanations geared towards professionals.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I don't think you are naturally creating powerful, profound melodies in your mind. I think you're just creating meaningless, rubbish melodies in your mind that you think are powerful and profound.

My Reply: You could be right. But, it's possible I am creating powerful, profound melodies in my mind, and I'm going to find out once I learn everything I need to learn about composing. If my composing knowledge leads me to the conclusion that these melodies in my mind were meaningless rubbish all along, then so be it. I'll just have to create powerful, profound melodies through the knowledge I've learned, rather than through inspiration alone.

Other Person's Response: How can you expect to create awesome, powerful, profound melodies in your mind through inspiration alone, when you haven't even learned how to compose a good melody?

My Reply: In another packet/document, I talk about how our brains are naturally capable of creating awesome, powerful, and profound works of art in our minds during drug trips, dreams and nightmares, and inspiration alone. It's no different than how our brains are naturally capable of other functions.
 

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Other Person’s Response: Emotions that are less intense can last for quite a while. For example, a mild feeling of anxiety could last for a long time. Think of people who have chronic anxiety. But, a panic attack only lasts for a short time.

My Reply: Yes. I’m able to continually enjoy my life and hobbies throughout the day (providing I don't have any miserable moments taking away my feelings of enjoyment). I think these feelings of enjoyment last because they're not intense feelings. If they were intense, then they'd only last for short periods of time.

Other Person's Response: You're right when you say there are certain things that can prevent us from feeling certain emotions, such as mental illnesses, stress, etc. Another thing would be not being in the mood. For example, if I just wasn't in the mood to exercise today, then any motivational thought I had wouldn't be able to make me feel motivated to exercise.

My Reply: Right. As for me, it's often the case that I'm not in the mood to exercise. But, I'm normally in the mood to do my hobbies throughout the day.

Other Person's Response: Works of art, by themselves, do convey feelings of horror, beauty, magnificence, tragedy, etc.? But, without our emotions, then those works of art can't be horrific, beautiful, etc.?

My Reply: Correct, and neither can they convey anything horrific, beautiful, etc.

Other Person's Response: During your emotional traumas, you say you've constantly perceived things in your life as morbidly insignificant and meaningless, which means you constantly felt that way until you've fully recovered from said emotional traumas.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: I heard that you're going back to your previous hobby (playing video games) if composing doesn't work out for you. In other words, if you're unable to create the awesome, powerful, profound music that expresses what you want to express to the audience, then you're giving up composing and going back to playing video games.

My Reply: Yes. I have no interest in any other field of art. So, if I give up composing, I'm not pursuing another field of art, such as writing, even though many people have told me I'm a talented writer.

Other Person's Response: So, you only pursue your own interests? That's why you're only pursuing composing? I think you should appreciate other fields of art. So, if composing just doesn't work out for you, then perhaps you should write stories, even though you're not interested. Over time, you might appreciate the art of writing and become interested in writing stories.

My Reply: That will be for me to decide. I am interested in writing all the material in this document to share to others because it's important to me that others gain plenty of insight about me, my composing dream, and my personal views. But, I don't care about writing stories or articles.

Other Person's Response: You haven't written all this material in such a way that it would be appealing to readers. It's all in a boring, explanatory, discussive format. So, readers aren't going to spend much time at all, if any, into reading it.

My Reply: But, there are people willing to read through all this, such as my mother and therapist. So, there will be other people who'd be willing to read through all this. But, like I said, not too many people.

Other Person's Response: Your therapist is willing to read through all your material because he gets paid to do so, and your mother is willing to because she's just your mother. But, if you want anyone else to read through all your material, besides a therapist or family member, then you'd need to pay them.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I heard that you wish to convey a feeling of awesomeness (a positive emotion) through your music. It wouldn't be a feeling of awesomeness that has a light-hearted, cheerful tone to it (such as going on a summer vacation). It would be a feeling of awesomeness or magnificence that has a heavy, otherworldly, dramatic, demonic tone to it. You say such a feeling wouldn't be like something from the underworld/hell. It would be a feeling that's out of this world (celestial/cosmic), and such a feeling might be something that would be conveyed by an anime.

My Reply: That's right. I'm not sure if I'd even describe the feeling I wish to convey as alien, since describing it as such might give the impression that I wish to compose music that sounds like popular and famous alien-sounding themes. My music would be completely different than that, and I'm not sure how I'd accurately describe it.

Other Person's Response: In regards to positive emotions, such as feelings of awesomeness, they can either have a light-hearted, cheerful tone to them, or a heavy tone to them. An example of a feeling of awesomeness that has a heavy tone to it would be a hardcore wrestler who feels the awesome, masculine drive to beat down his opponent. If a theme song were to be created to express that awesome feeling, then it would be a heavy, hardcore theme song, as opposed to a light-hearted, cheerful theme.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I heard you gave another example of the music you wish to compose. It would be heavy metal music with otherworldly-sounding instruments to it.

My Reply: Right. Again, this music would be nothing normal, which means it wouldn't convey a normal feeling, such as a heavy metal concert.

Other Person's Response: There are heavy metal bands that compose bizarre, otherworldly-sounding music. An example would be Slipknot.

My Reply: But, my music would be completely different than that. Slipknot composes music that evokes an ordinary reaction within the audience because it makes people want to scream things, such as: "What awesome ****! I'm going to bang my head to this!" But, my music would evoke a completely different reaction. It might make people want to slowly back away from it. So, I don't wish to evoke an ordinary reaction within the audience through my music, which means I don't wish to compose music that conveys normal feelings that make people want to get up and groove, dance, bang their heads, etc.

Other Person's Response: Yes, Slipknot, as well as some other heavy metal bands, do compose music that conveys a bizarre, otherworldly mood. But, such moods apparently have a normal, ordinary quality to them, since they evoke ordinary reactions within the audience. But, you say you wish to convey moods through your compositions that don't have such an ordinary quality.

My Reply: Right. So, if I were to compose a heavy metal song that conveys a bizarre, otherworldly mood, then it can't have an ordinary feeling to it, such as a heavy metal concert feeling that evokes the normal reaction of making people want to bang their heads and scream.

Other Person's Response: So, Slipknot, as well as some other bands, must be composing music that's not totally otherworldly and out of the ordinary. Otherwise, people wouldn't be getting ordinary reactions from it.

My Reply: Right. But, I wish to compose music that's totally otherworldly and out of the ordinary, which means I don't wish to evoke an ordinary reaction within the audience.

Other Person's Response: But, there are some people who do have ordinary reactions to things that are completely out of the ordinary.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: You say you wish to convey a feeling of awesomeness through your compositions. But, you could end up creating compositions that convey a feeling of horror. Just because you'd feel awesome about these compositions doesn't mean they convey a feeling of awesomeness. There's a difference between the feelings we get from certain compositions, and the feelings these compositions actually convey. For example, a person could feel sad in regards to a certain composition. But, that doesn't mean the composition conveys a sad feeling. A person could also get a feeling of beauty (a positive emotion) in regards to a certain composition. But, that doesn't mean the composition conveys a feeling of beauty. So, when composing music, make sure that said compositions actually convey the feelings you want to convey.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: There were times I felt joy from listening to horror music. But, the music doesn't convey feelings of joy. It conveys feelings of horror, since it's horror music.

My Reply: Right.
 
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