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Cognitive Dissonance

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Each couple of sentences referenced to the people I quoted. I thought it was easy to put together. The bible question is for YoursTrue.
OK, here is something to consider: 1 Peter 4 - "Whoever would love life and see good days
must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech.11He must turn from evil and do good;
he must seek peace and pursue it. 12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and His ears are inclined to their prayer.
But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”
For some of us this takes time to apply God's principles to our lives.
Now 1 Corinthians 6 says the following, "Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
So according to this, people are exhorted to refrain from the types of behavior in verse 9. But verse 10 shows that some Christians were doing those things. But -- they stopped when they learned God's will.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Umm I’m not an Abrahamic. I don’t depend on the bible at all. Hell even my own scriptures are mostly just for “correct” ritual rules and fun myths.
The need for it to be correct is not that valued. Certainly if my beliefs contradict scientific understanding, I try my best to research and adapt to better reflect a more educated understanding of the world. But much like politics, religion is pretty subjective and hotly debated.
I’m very leftist, is that the correct position to have? Maybe maybe not. But it’s correct for my beliefs.
Hi. I'm just wondering about what you say re: your own scriptures and "fun myths." Do you have different gods, and do you pray to them, according to the myths they tell you and what you want?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Hi. I'm just wondering about what you say re: your own scriptures and "fun myths." Do you have different gods, and do you pray to them, according to the myths they tell you and what you want?
Generally you have a supreme deity who one prays to. Who that is differs depending on the school.
But more commonly you have deities have specific “jobs.” Like Ganesh is prayed your before a venture to try to gain good luck.
People will pray to Ma Laskmi for wealth and prosperity. It just depends on what you’re trying to accomplish in your journey I suppose
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Virtues are moral excellences. The Bible mentions virtue in the Kjv 1611.

They are very much like values. Honesty, patience, compassion, etc. I like to reference virtues as meanings and values of good character. If I listed all of what I personally consider virtues to be, I found over 100. Some books list about 40 to 50. Others might only have 3 or 4 that they consider.

You may want to reference your Bible dictionary. If there is one thing I learned from virtues it is that I am not perfect whatsoever.
Just happen to see your post again, and my reaction is that we all fall short (of perfection in the sense of moral values and exercising them), no matter how good we try to be. It is for those putting faith in Jesus Christ's redeeming sacrifice that we have a hope of being acceptable to God (saved by Him or changing). Some people don't 'see' God as a real person, they poo-poo the Bible and so do not understand what Jesus did for us. So either they don't try to be good in some cases, or they do not put faith in Him. (Works without faith is dead, and faith without works is dead. James chapter 2 expresses it quite well, methinks. In fact, I'm going to take the time to re-read it soon.) Again, thanks for your post, I enjoyed reading it. :)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Generally you have a supreme deity who one prays to. Who that is differs depending on the school.
But more commonly you have deities have specific “jobs.” Like Ganesh is prayed your before a venture to try to gain good luck.
People will pray to Ma Laskmi for wealth and prosperity. It just depends on what you’re trying to accomplish in your journey I suppose
OK, that's what I was referencing and thought you might be meaning. Interesting that the God that inspired the writing of the Bible forbids worshiping or setting a table to the "god of good luck." Isaiah 65:11 - the prophet wrote: "What will I, the LORD, do if any of you reject me and my holy mountain? What will happen to you for offering food and wine to the gods you call "Good Luck" and "Fate"?"

So interesting, thanks for mentioning that. I didn't know that Ganesh is supposed enable good luck to a person but it just brings out what the Almighty God told His people in the Bible. I play solitaire, a card game I like. And I notice when I play it, I hope I win. And am disappointed when I don't win. But I don't play for money. Anyway I play the game by myself. :) And I have learned that praying for good luck isn't something the God I worship wants me to do. However, I'm sure that those going to gambling casinos, etc., may pray to win. :) And, of course, often they don't win anyway, prayer or no prayer.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Generally you have a supreme deity who one prays to. Who that is differs depending on the school.
But more commonly you have deities have specific “jobs.” Like Ganesh is prayed your before a venture to try to gain good luck.
People will pray to Ma Laskmi for wealth and prosperity. It just depends on what you’re trying to accomplish in your journey I suppose
Yes, interesting you say the "school." On the other hand, some look for a different school other than what they were born with, or taught. And sometimes another 'school' is appealing to them. But, according to what I understand, Jesus said the good news would be preached and then the end would come. Notice what Jesus said at Matthew 24:14 - "Christian Standard Bible
This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."
Not sure what other religions teach as "good news." Do you know?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
OK, that's what I was referencing and thought you might be meaning. Interesting that the God that inspired the writing of the Bible forbids worshiping or setting a table to the "god of good luck." Isaiah 65:11 - the prophet wrote: "What will I, the LORD, do if any of you reject me and my holy mountain? What will happen to you for offering food and wine to the gods you call "Good Luck" and "Fate"?"

So interesting, thanks for mentioning that. I didn't know that Ganesh is supposed enable good luck to a person but it just brings out what the Almighty God told His people in the Bible. I play solitaire, a card game I like. And I notice when I play it, I hope I win. And am disappointed when I don't win. But I don't play for money. Anyway I play the game by myself. :) And I have learned that praying for good luck isn't something the God I worship wants me to do. However, I'm sure that those going to gambling casinos, etc., may pray to win. :) And, of course, often they don't win anyway, prayer or no prayer.
How you worship is up to you and what works for you
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes, interesting you say the "school." On the other hand, some look for a different school other than what they were born with, or taught. And sometimes another 'school' is appealing to them. But, according to what I understand, Jesus said the good news would be preached and then the end would come. Notice what Jesus said at Matthew 24:14 - "Christian Standard Bible
This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."
Not sure what other religions teach as "good news." Do you know?
Good News is not a thing as far as I’m aware of. It’s simply you trying to live a good spiritual life fulfilling your dharma (duty, living a moral filled life and not hurting anyone.) What School one follows will be up to the individual. They must travel a path which suits their needs.
Also just a friendly heads up, proselytising is against the RF rules. So just beware of the mods
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Good News is not a thing as far as I’m aware of. It’s simply you trying to live a good spiritual life fulfilling your dharma (duty, living a moral filled life and not hurting anyone.) What School one follows will be up to the individual. They must travel a path which suits their needs.
Also just a friendly heads up, proselytising is against the RF rules. So just beware of the mods
Ok. We were talking about different schools of religion, weren't we?
Perhaps a person goes to an academic school and he finds another school is better. It happens you know. Could be he has a friend in another country that tells him about a better school he can learn from. And so because of what he heard from his friend, he switched schools.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Good News is not a thing as far as I’m aware of. It’s simply you trying to live a good spiritual life fulfilling your dharma (duty, living a moral filled life and not hurting anyone.) What School one follows will be up to the individual. They must travel a path which suits their needs.
Also just a friendly heads up, proselytising is against the RF rules. So just beware of the mods
What is a "moral filled life"? Explain please what you mean by "duty." Thank you.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Hi. I'm just wondering about what you say re: your own scriptures and "fun myths." Do you have different gods, and do you pray to them, according to the myths they tell you and what you want?
@SomeRandom: Please.. you talk about your own scriptures. Are they accessible to others and can you help someone to understand what they say? Do you like them and would you recommend them to others for guidance and moral values?
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Good News is not a thing as far as I’m aware of. It’s simply you trying to live a good spiritual life fulfilling your dharma (duty, living a moral filled life and not hurting anyone.) What School one follows will be up to the individual. They must travel a path which suits their needs.
Also just a friendly heads up, proselytising is against the RF rules. So just beware of the mods
I did not realize it was proselytizing. Because if one never hears of a different 'school,' how can he know the difference between his school and another school. And which moral values are considered beneficial by the so many gods or just one. Is gambling something one of the gods would like or encourage?
 
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