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Please please help me :(

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
I don't think it will help me. the doctors know not so much about God. I don't know if they have shaplains in hospital in Scandinavian.. And i am sure the doctors will think im crazy if I tell them what i have written here on the forum. what will they think? when they hear i have prayed forgiverness for wanting to murder People? i'm maybe saying to them please kill me

Sounds as though you are under doctors care. Yet you seem to be concerned with God and his opinion of you. I am Christian. Are you Christian?

Don't reject the doctors advice to you. But you need to solve the problem with God. And from what I have read what you said, you feel He has abandoned you. I will say here, if you are a child of God, He has not abandoned you. And because you are so concerned over this, I believe you are a child of God.

I don't have more time now, but I would say this. You should be able to get access to a Bible. Read the Psalms. Start at the beginning. You will find the Psalmist in the same condition you are in at times.

Praying for you.

Good-Ole-Reble
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Im 25 years old. born in 1994. in my profile it says iam 30 but I lied on my age when I made this profile
I love God and my neigbor (i think, i iam scared God thinks now i hate all People)
And God does not love me anymore so this does not help :(
God knows you want to love and be loved. When we don't get that love from others in our lives, we can feel alone, lost and helpless. This does not mean He has abandoned you, even if you're sick.
 

lostmee

New Member
Did you read it?
yes i read it
God knows you want to love and be loved. When we don't get that love from others in our lives, we can feel alone, lost and helpless. This does not mean He has abandoned you, even if you're sick.
How do I know he has abondon me or not? I so scared he hates me now. That God does not love me anymore. I have prayed to God and told him I didn't mean what I said about murdering People. that I never wanted to kill anyone. that i was scared because of my ocd thoughts. but i feel he is not forgiving me. He thinks i want to murder people. I feel in my soul God noes not love me anymore and not will forgive me
 

WonderingWorrier

Active Member
The Bible also says to refuse the evil and choose the good.
You will be going through that in a way most will not really understand.

But there are others who feel exactly like you do now.
Maybe you could help them in a way that most will not be able to.
Because you will be able to speak from experience.
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Have you considered studying and becoming an OCD expert/therapist?
Is that something that you could do?

I think every person you help changes the whole world.
Because the world is not whole without including that person.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
yes i read it

How do I know he has abondon me or not? I so scared he hates me now. That God does not love me anymore. I have prayed to God and told him I didn't mean what I said about murdering People. that I never wanted to kill anyone. that i was scared because of my ocd thoughts. but i feel he is not forgiving me. He thinks i want to murder people. I feel in my soul God noes not love me anymore and not will forgive me
Question. Do you watch thriller or violent videos and games? These can affect a person.
 

lostmee

New Member
I think you should be honest. I've had horrible thoughts of wanting to harm myself and others, including my pets. That can be caused by any number of things, including severe depression. It doesn't mean you're "crazy". It just means you have an illness and need help. There's no shame. I will tell you honestly, though, they are likely to put you on a psychiatric hold to make sure you don't try to hurt yourself or anyone else. But that's temporary. They will probably give you medication or change any meds you're on. I know you've been through this before. You don't have to be afraid. They're not supposed to judge you. The sooner you do this, the sooner you can feel better.

I don't know the situation where you live exactly, but Scandinavian nations have state churches so I'm sure they have some sort of religious resources at their hospitals.

Im sorry you have been struggling With that :( it so difficult to handle. I hope you got help and that you are better now.
I am little scared i will be put you on a psychiatric hold. i don't like psychiatric Wards. I have been on many in my life but i think its so embarrasing. and that the staff doesn't like me. and think I'm weird. and i'm scared of People. and I have experienced hurtful Things done to me by staff. I thinking a lot now if it's only better I'm trying to die without try getting help on hospital

yes its alot churches in Scandinavian but only half the population is religious. i hope so. at least they should have it
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Im sorry you have been struggling With that :( it so difficult to handle. I hope you got help and that you are better now.
I am little scared i will be put you on a psychiatric hold. i don't like psychiatric Wards. I have been on many in my life but i think its so embarrasing. and that the staff doesn't like me. and think I'm weird. and i'm scared of People. and I have experienced hurtful Things done to me by staff. I thinking a lot now if it's only better I'm trying to die without try getting help on hospital

yes its alot churches in Scandinavian but only half the population is religious. i hope so. at least they should have it
I'm hanging in there. I was in a mental hospital last December and was angry about that at first. But I actually ended up enjoying my time there and didn't really want to leave. It was like a vacation for me. The staff was nice and I enjoyed the company of the other patients, which was much more than the usual amount of social contact I have.

I'm so sorry to hear that you feel mistreated by psych ward staff. Sadly, that's common. I've been mistreated in the past, too. I hope that you will at least speak to your doctors and therapist. And definitely keep talking to people.
 

lostmee

New Member
From what you have posted so far, it is very apparent that you have mental health issues that have either not been addressed by medical professionals or you have never sought treatment for your issues which I imagine are nothing new for you. How long have you battled this problem? Why did you lie about your age?

If you are relying on your own thinking to be rational, when your responses here prove that there is little rational thought governing your behavior, then professional help is the only answer. If you have heard the old saying...”God helps those who help themselves”, you will understand that he will not make your irrational thought processes miraculously disappear, but will guide you to seek professional help and to try different medications to try and even out your thoughts and make them less frightening or threatening.

OCD is an illness that can often be helped by medication, but because mental illness is not well understood, it’s a bit hit and miss. But at least try to help yourself by seeking treatment. Isolation only feeds the problem. Failing to seek help affects you and everyone around you.

As far as guilt is concerned.....you have to know that God knows the difference between wickedness and illness.....he does not punish sick people.

Please get help. There are online resources and phone helplines.

I have had mental issuses in many years. since I was in my early teens the mental issuses have become very bad. i did lie about my age because i did not want to give out to much personal information. but i changet my mind about telling my real age because its not so much information anyway.

So you think God will understand the different between what i really want and my ocd thoughts? it helps me that you say god know the difference between wickedness and illness.. but what if God not know difference?

thanks for you post. it means alot for me.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I have had mental issuses in many years. since I was in my early teens the mental issuses have become very bad. i did lie about my age because i did not want to give out to much personal information. but i changet my mind about telling my real age because its not so much information anyway.

Its OK..there is no judgment here. We only want to help. I have two very close friends who suffer with the very same problems as you do. Both of them worried that God would not understand that these thoughts were not theirs and that these were involuntary thoughts coming from a sick brain. Believe me God doesn't just read minds, he reads hearts. These are coming from a sick mind, not a sick heart.

I suggested to one of them that they separate themselves from the bad thoughts and give that person a different identity.....I suggested that she call this person "Wendy" (apologies to all the Wendys out there) and that when those thought came into her consciousness, she was to tell Wendy to stop that nonsense and to go and do some exercise....go for a brisk walk, (even around the house or backyard if you have one) or go and take part in an online exercise class with some really good music. Distraction can often help.

So you think God will understand the different between what i really want and my ocd thoughts? it helps me that you say god know the difference between wickedness and illness.. but what if God not know difference?
Of course he knows the difference. He is not judging you...he wants to help you. Have you had no success with medication? Its a real trial and error thing. We all respond differently to meds. Keep trying and keep praying because God hears all our cries for help. One thing that really helped both of my friends was music. Its is more powerful and less harmful than drugs. If you find the right music it can put your mind into a completely different mode. What is your favorite?

thanks for you post. it means alot for me.

That is what we are here for. There is a lot of experience on these forums. Don't ever stop trying....giving up is not an option.
 
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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I am little scared i will be put you on a psychiatric hold. i don't like psychiatric Wards. I have been on many in my life but i think its so embarrasing. and that the staff doesn't like me. and think I'm weird. and i'm scared of People. and I have experienced hurtful Things done to me by staff. I thinking a lot now if it's only better I'm trying to die without try getting help on hospital

Just on this point...psyche wards are for psychiatric patients.....they are used to people behaving in various ways....its their job to help, not judge. If you're scared that they think you are weird, then realize where you are and that no one is in that place because they are sane.

I once had my friend tell me that mental illness is the hardest one for people to feel empathy. She said that if her body was in a wheelchair people would treat her with a little respect, but because her mind was in a wheelchair that nobody could see, they would shy away without trying to understand that she was a sick person doing he best to survive in a world that is often cold and uncaring if you are "different".

Hang in there.....we might be in different parts of the world but we care, and one of us is always here for some advice or just to offload.....
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
yes i read it
How do I know he has abondon me or not? I so scared he hates me now. That God does not love me anymore. I have prayed to God and told him I didn't mean what I said about murdering People. that I never wanted to kill anyone. that i was scared because of my ocd thoughts. but i feel he is not forgiving me. He thinks i want to murder people. I feel in my soul God noes not love me anymore and not will forgive me

In Scripture, there is only one unforgivable sin ( Matthew 12:32 ) and that does Not apply to your feelings.
How could God hate you when He provided His Son Jesus as a covering ransom price paid in full for you - Matthew 20:28.
We are offered to ' repent ' so as Not to ' perish ' - 2 Peter 3:9
A lot of people find comfort in the words found at Psalms 55:22 to cast their burdens upon God..... See also 1 Peter 5:7.
You seem to have the desire to love God, so pray about your desire, and pray for the right circumstances to come your way.
We can draw close to God when we seek Him - Acts of the Apostles 17:27 - because He is Not far off from: you.

Perhaps you might want to look over the account about King Manasseh found at 2 Kings 21:1, 2-9, 10-16; and 2 Chronicles 33:2-9, 10-13.
Consider what Manasseh did and what was the final outcome for him __________
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
My mental Health is very bad now :(
I get terrible thoughts in my head i can't get away with. i know its ocd. In many months now i have got very scary thoughts. Thoughts like that i want to hurt my cat, that I burn down the house, poisoning someones coffe, Pictures in my head me stabbing my cat, my sister or parents. I get so scared i have done it. Then I have to check so many times if mye cat or Family is okay. I have to double check sooo many times. im so scared. i have to mye sure they ok, because i love my Family (my cats is also family). I dont do it but my thoughts show Pictures of it and i am scared i do it!!!

They have been in my head so many times. In recents months i have said to myself and God thinks like " The thoughts are lying. the houghts are lying.Go away og away. Im againstthe terribe thought. Im against them. I mean the opposite of these thoughts. I'm totally against these thoughts"

I prayed to God saying i was against these thoughts.

like i saying mantras to get the thoughtss away. It did not work. so I thought maybe if I pray to God for forgiverness of that these thoughts say to me. maybe then they will go away. So when these thoughts came when i looked at tv like the thought that i wanted the person on tv dead I prayed to God to forgive me my sins that i want this person on tv dead!!! Now i have prayed so many times for forgiverness since i want People dead. Its like "Dear God please forgive me for wanting the person on tv dead. forgive me for wanting to murder this person. im so sorry i wanted this person dead. It was terrible of me"

I prayed to God like these terrible thoughts was somethink i want!!! its not!! I have never wanted persons on tv dead. So here the problem :( now i have prayed prayers to God for forgiverness that i wanted to murder People. But the problem is that i never wanted to murder People. It was the ocd thoughts. Now im scared i will going to hell in afterlife.

What should i do? Should i really pray again and say to God i lied and did not mean what i prayed for? Will he believe me? What if God thinks now im a real murder in my thoughts and what if the People on tv dies in an accident or something and God blames me because i said to him i wanted them dead ….I know this sound cracy

I believe you could be suffering from demon oppression. The best remedy for that is always the name of Jesus. Try thinking Jesus loves you every time one of those thoughts comes in and see if that helps. If this is a nasty demon you may need someone to agree with you to cast it out. It might also help to see if you have a psychosis. The devil preys on those, seeing it as a weakness he can take advantage of. I got mine to go away by singing "Nothing but the Blood of Jesus" and my wife got hers to go away by singing "Jesus Loves Me." For me the psychosis was a guilt complex that I got from watching the Exorcist so the song reminded me I was forgiven making the psychosis go away and leaving the devil no foothold.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Im 25 years old. born in 1994. in my profile it says iam 30 but I lied on my age when I made this profile
I love God and my neigbor (i think, i iam scared God thinks now i hate all People)
And God does not love me anymore so this does not help :(

I will always love you and never leave nor forsake you.
 
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