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God And Homosexuality
- Thread starter Skwim
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You clearly have either not read much RF or have a bunch of your fellow religionists on <ignore>.And yet, I haven't seen one anti-gay post.except from Skwim.
Can't say that I'm surprised. Christian folks have a way of avoiding easily available information that they prefer not to learn about.
Tom
Skwim
Veteran Member
Good question, particularly in light of :
Genesis 6:6–7
6 And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it egrieved him to his heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them.”
1 Samuel 15:11
11“I regret that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following me and has not performed my commandments.” And Samuel was angry, and he cried to the Lord all night.
Jonah 3:10
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Amos 7:3
3 The Lord repented for this: It shall not be, saith the Lord.
1 Chronicles 21:15
15 And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the Lord beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the Lord stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
Psalm 106:45
45 And he remembered for them his covenant, and repented according to the multitude of his mercies.
6 And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it egrieved him to his heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them.”
1 Samuel 15:11
11“I regret that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following me and has not performed my commandments.” And Samuel was angry, and he cried to the Lord all night.
Jonah 3:10
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Amos 7:3
3 The Lord repented for this: It shall not be, saith the Lord.
1 Chronicles 21:15
15 And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the Lord beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the Lord stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
Psalm 106:45
45 And he remembered for them his covenant, and repented according to the multitude of his mercies.
Point being, one doesn't regret or repent those things one does right, only those things one does wrong: MISTAKES.
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I think it is also about righteousness, right understanding. Homosexual act just is not reasonable. It is basically the same as trying to eat through ear, because it is also hole in the head. Obviously, you could try to eat through your ear, but it would not be good, it would probably be unhealthy, because ear is not meant for that purpose. Same is with homosexual act also, it is misuse of body parts and can be harmful, which is why I believe it is not accepted by God.
Unfortunately, at that time, slavery was a part of human sOciety Slavery in ancient Israel, though, was regulated by the Mosaic Law. It was more humane than any other laws governing slavery at that time.
Where does He create evil? If you’re referring to Isaiah 45:7, the Hebrew word is better translated “distress, calamity.” (You haven’t been shown this before?????) Furthermore, look at the context....It was with reference to Babylon.
James 1:13-15.....
“13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. 14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed* by his own desire.+ 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile,* gives birth to sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death.+”
- From: Bible — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
You know, @Skwim, it might behoove you to be less sarcastic and irreverent. You could just as easily have said, “But what about........?” Instead of, “Of course, which is why......(irreverence)....”
Keep in mind, you could be wrong...Jehovah might be noticing people! Malachi 3:16
The irreverent ones, too.
I mention this, because I wish you the best.
But ultimately, we each make our own decisions.
This is nonsense, to be charitable about it.
I can explain why putting food in your ear is likely to cause problems, without any counterbalanced benefits.
Tell me how that's "basically the same" as me getting a little nooky from my spouse of almost 3 decades.
Frankly, I don't think you can. I believe that you're dissembling because your religious beliefs are irrational.
Tom
Tom
Skwim
Veteran Member
Righteousness is the quality of being morally right or justifiable, and as I understand Christian morality god sets the rules. Right? So the question comes right back into god's lap, why does.he feel homosexual sex is immoral?
Basically it is not the same at all---In fact, your analogy is rather silly.. And what about the tens of millions of heterosexuals who have anal sex?
"Thirty percent of women and 35% of men reported HAI [Heterosexual Anal Intercourse] in the past year."
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Does god chastise them? Not that I know of.
And here's something to chew on.
As of 2017, statistically the LGBT population represented 4.6% of the adult population in the USA. And because there were 100,994,367 adult males in the population that year (source ) 4,645,741homosexual males had anal sex, whereas 33,718,869 heterosexual men did, or more than seven times as many. And what does god say about them? Nada. Or maybe god was simply unaware that over a third of all adult heterosexuals were having anal sex. Nah! He's omniscient. He's just biased against homosexuals.
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Talk is cheap... Where's the beef!
It was as good as your reply
Too bad RF doesn't have a crucifix rating.It was as good as your reply
But it doesn't.
So you Christian folks can just go on proving to me that you have little understanding of ethics or western culture.
Tom
Hmmm... you haven't convinced me of that. Like your previous statement, you only offer personal opinions.
JesusKnowsYou
Active Member
My belief is that God's plan for His chidlren is for them to eventually become perfect - so He gave His children what they needed to achieve that goal.
The main "tools" that we can use to achieve perfection - outside the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ - are love and marriage between men and women.
One of the main aspects of perfection is the desire and ability to reproduce after our kind.
No one will ever become perfected in this life - but if we faithfully live according to God's laws - which includes chastity outside of marriage and fidelity within marriage - we can eventually become perfect like He is.
Even if we are unable to have children in this life - if we live faithfully - we can and will have chidlren after this life.
Same-sex couples are not living according to God's law - which means not following the road that leads towards eventual perfection - which is why God has always condemned the practice.
This desire God has is not based on hatred but parental love for His children.
Tazarah
Well-Known Member
I mean, that's what the bible says. So now it's just a matter of whether or not you believe in the bible and subscribe to what the bible says.
Tazarah
Well-Known Member
So claim to be a christian, but claim you don't have to accept the bible or it's teachings? Christ himself taught from the bible when he walked the earth, so what you are saying doesn't make any sense.
Tazarah
Well-Known Member
I agree with everything that you are saying except for these two parts... so, just thought I'd put this out there
ROMANS 9:7-8
"7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."
No i don't
I won't say that it is impossible. People are people. We also know that many time we simply reap what we sow (that goes both ways). I've noticed you get ugly sometimes... so it is possible that someone returned the favor. Then again, maybe they were ugly and you returned the favor. I don't know who is the hen and who is the egg.
HOWEVER, my name is Ken and not ugly.
My quote is simply an analogy. You say scripture is fiction - without support and an opinion so your statement is irrelevant as far as truth. I say your are an AI - computer generated -- without support and an opinion so my statement is irrelevant as far as truth. Both are equal.
This is the post I was referring to in my response to your PM.
Tom
Ok... but it was an analogy as explained on #139 --