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Is there any cure for stupidity/senselessness? (Jeremiah 10:14)

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Is Darwin right, only the fittest will survive? Or is it the senseless, those devoid of knowledge, will meet their dire consequences because of their stupidity (Jeremiah 10:14-18)?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Is Darwin right, only the fittest will survive? Or is it the senseless, those devoid of knowledge, will meet their dire consequences because of their stupidity (Jeremiah 10:14-18)?
It's mankind's unwillingness to transcend it's animal origins (Darwinist motivations) that will destroy us all.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Darwin never said that.

Survival of the fittest - Wikipedia
This verse is about idolatry, not stupidity.

The verse is about "everyman is stupid, devoid of knowledge", of which one who practices idolatry, someone bowing down to their idols, would be high on the list. Of course "manna" seems to be the prevalent god/idol of today. The idol made of wood, silver, gold, the pagan cross, which can not speak or hear, which people pay homage to, and kneel to, seems also to be quite prevalent.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Survival of the fittest - Wikipedia


The verse is about "everyman is stupid, devoid of knowledge", of which one who practices idolatry, someone bowing down to their idols, would be high on the list. Of course "manna" seems to be the prevalent god/idol of today. The idol made of wood, silver, gold, the pagan cross, which can not speak or hear, which people pay homage to, and kneel to, seems also to be quite prevalent.
No, it says this:

Every man is brutish without knowledge; every smith is put to shame by his graven image, for his molten images are false, without spirit in them.
They are vanity, a work of delusion; at the time of their visitation they shall perish.
Not like these is Jacob's portion, for He is the One Who formed everything, and Israel is the tribe of His inheritance; the Lord of Hosts is His name.


'If you don't have knowledge you are brutish.'
 

exchemist

Veteran Member

Exactly. Notice Darwin never said that "only the fittest survive".

Darwin agreed to adopt a phrase of Spencer's, "survival of the fittest" as a snappy catchphrase for natural selection.

As the article you linked to makes clear, what was meant was that the fittest (= best adapted to the environment) subgroup in a population will reproduce the most successfully. There is nothing in Darwin's theory that says "only" these survive. What happens is that, as Darwin explains in his book, the best adapted tend to have the most offspring and so their characteristics come to dominate in the population, after many generations.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Exactly. Notice Darwin never said that "only the fittest survive".

Darwin agreed to adopt a phrase of Spencer's, "survival of the fittest" as a snappy catchphrase for natural selection.

As the article you linked to makes clear, what was meant was that the fittest (= best adapted to the environment) subgroup in a population will reproduce the most successfully. There is nothing in Darwin's theory that says "only" these survive. What happens is that, as Darwin explains in his book, the best adapted tend to have the most offspring and so their characteristics come to dominate in the population, after many generations.

Apparently Darwin's adopted phrase of "survival of the fittest", would not include the slow, unless your were a possum, and were good at playing possum, or if you were stupid, unless of course you were a politician..
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Apparently Darwin's adopted phrase of "survival of the fittest", would not include the slow, unless your were a possum, and were good at playing possum, or if you were stupid, unless of course you were a politician..
My hovercraft is full of eels.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Wow. Did you even read your own link?
"Darwinism", or evolution, is about genetic adaptation. It's why a lot of mammals in artic regions have white fur, for example. It gave them an advantage in their environment, making it easier for them to survive and pass on their white fur genes.
Of course you're misrepresenting it due to your religious agenda.

Dumb white furred fox in the artic do not survive. The strong and fittest who can adapt to conditions will survive. Those who see the lemmings jump off a cliff and try and follow will probably not fare well. .
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Dumb white furred fox in the artic do not survive. The strong and fittest who can adapt to conditions will survive. Those who see the lemmings jump off a cliff and try and follow will probably not fare well. .

The bottom line is that evolution and genetic adaptation have nothing to with whatever goofy nonsense you were trying to conflate it with.
Your garbage has been slam dunked into the can, son.
 
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