It is not Gods fault human beings suffering.

Pudding · Apr 30, 2020

Amanaki said:
To explain, God in this context means for the Gods, Buddhas Dao`s, and so on that each religion/spiritual path teaches us about.

So to the topic: The way I see it, is that it is not the Gods who are the guilty once in human sufferings, it is our own fault that we suffer, and it is only by our own action we can end the suffering we feeling. So no matter if you are a spiritual/religious person or a non-believer it is by your own fault from the past that you feel some kind of unpleasant feelings or actually suffer more deeply.

I'm not a believer of any God, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Holy Unicorn and Pixie King etc. So i definitely don't believe it's anyone of those invisible being's fault that they're responsible for the human's suffering.

And your bold empty claim that "it's always my own fault from the past when i feel unpleasant and suffer" is duly noted. I don't take your bold empty claim seriously at all.

God is the one who gives us the path to freedom, but the path itself is not without suffering, it is the suffering that gives us the realization that we are on the path to something better. Did that sound totally opposite of what you expected? I am sure it did.

Your bold empty claim that "God is the one who gives us the path to freedom" and the follow-up bold empty claims are duly noted and unconvincing at all. I hope you would backup your bold empty claims with convincing evidence, but so far you haven't, just like how some other theists when they present their religious bold empty claims in this forums.

So you're not correct. What you said totally sound like what i would expect to hear from you, or some other theists as well, which is spreading and repeat bold empty claims regards Gods and spiritual whatever truth.

To become better we must first suffer for our own wrongdoings in the past, we must learn why we suffer, only then can we undo the things we did in the past and stop doing them.

I think to become better we have to make amends to our wrong doing in the past (if we have indeed done so), and try to live our life without regret.

Yes, we should learn why we suffer.
- If it's our own fault for our specific suffering, then we should try to fix it.
- If it's not our own fault for our specific suffering, then we shouldn't blame ourself for our suffering, we should identify the cause of our suffering and fix it if we can.

Those people who blame themselves for their specific suffering which is not of their own fault, they need to seek help.

Those people who blame themselves for all of their suffering - base on the bold empty claim that all of their suffering is of their own fault, they're deluded and need to stop believing in that bold empty claim.

So in my understanding, it is not God who punishes us,

Yeah, i don't believe it's God, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Holy Unicorn, Pixie King nor Santa Claus who's punishes us either. I have never been convince to believe any of those bold empty claims is fact. Cheers.

it is our own action, speech, and thoughts that have made us suffer.

Sometimes, yes, not always.

If others are bugging you or harras you, actually you are the cause of it your self, eve you can not see it at the time. (this is the part called Karma)

Your bold empty claim is duly noted. Meh.

Your other bold empty claims in post #53 regards "karma coming from past life through reincarnation" is duly noted too. Meh too.

These is only my thoughts about it, so do not think that I say I have the full answer to it, I do not.

What is your thought about this?

Already explain in above.

It is not Gods fault human beings suffering.

Pudding

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