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um... what exactly is god's purpose?

Poppa

Member
I mean... he already knows everything. Would you bother reading a book if you knew every word by heart and knew how it would end? I suppose there are books that i have reread, but that is mostly because they were good and i forgot a lot and i hope that i will pick something up that i missed the first time through. That couldn't happen to a god.

What would your purpose be if you already knew the answer. And why does god test us? I'm thinking of job.... god already knew that answer.... and what about testing abraham? He knew whether he would sacrifice his son or not so why bother to act surprised? Oh! i didn't know you were going to do that! (yes, you did god) here's a goat!

So i just don't get WHY a god would even exist and why they wouldn't just go bonkers and cease their own existence... could be why they are so rare.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I mean... he already knows everything. Would you bother reading a book if you knew every word by heart and knew how it would end?...
Maybe not a book, but I know how most pornos end and still choose to watch them...
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
I mean... he already knows everything. Would you bother reading a book if you knew every word by heart and knew how it would end? I suppose there are books that i have reread, but that is mostly because they were good and i forgot a lot and i hope that i will pick something up that i missed the first time through. That couldn't happen to a god.

What would your purpose be if you already knew the answer. And why does god test us? I'm thinking of job.... god already knew that answer.... and what about testing abraham? He knew whether he would sacrifice his son or not so why bother to act surprised? Oh! i didn't know you were going to do that! (yes, you did god) here's a goat!

So i just don't get WHY a god would even exist and why they wouldn't just go bonkers and cease their own existence... could be why they are so rare.
God's purpose is to love and to enjoy company of people who are capable of love.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Desires, even in a God! Enjoy the servitude of people who would worship him and him alone.
Otherwise, he could be very cruel, even till the third and fourth generation of people who do not worship him.
He is another Kim Jong Un.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
What is the purpose of holding onto such a naive and childish conception of God? Might be the better question.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I mean... he already knows everything. Would you bother reading a book if you knew every word by heart and knew how it would end? I suppose there are books that i have reread, but that is mostly because they were good and i forgot a lot and i hope that i will pick something up that i missed the first time through. That couldn't happen to a god.

What would your purpose be if you already knew the answer. And why does god test us? I'm thinking of job.... god already knew that answer.... and what about testing abraham? He knew whether he would sacrifice his son or not so why bother to act surprised? Oh! i didn't know you were going to do that! (yes, you did god) here's a goat!

So i just don't get WHY a god would even exist and why they wouldn't just go bonkers and cease their own existence... could be why they are so rare.
I don't believe God is a mind reader

what goes on in your head......is just you

and it stays that way until the last breath
THEN God and heaven show up to see whatever stands from the dust
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I mean... he already knows everything. Would you bother reading a book if you knew every word by heart and knew how it would end? I suppose there are books that i have reread, but that is mostly because they were good and i forgot a lot and i hope that i will pick something up that i missed the first time through. That couldn't happen to a god.

What would your purpose be if you already knew the answer. And why does god test us? I'm thinking of job.... god already knew that answer.... and what about testing abraham? He knew whether he would sacrifice his son or not so why bother to act surprised? Oh! i didn't know you were going to do that! (yes, you did god) here's a goat!

So i just don't get WHY a god would even exist and why they wouldn't just go bonkers and cease their own existence... could be why they are so rare.

"Purpose" is another one of those man-made concepts that many folks like to toss around as they endeavor to create 'God' in their image...
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Living humans are telling all the stories.

And everything already exists created.

And a human male group said a long time ago, let me think about creation and change it.

That is when they learnt what God was...….the destruction of self.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
What exactly is God's purpose?
What, exactly, is your purpose?
Why do you ask the same questions in most of your posts?
Why did you come here, unless it were to show off. (Hint: you're not really succeeding.)
... he already knows everything. Would you bother reading a book if you knew every word by heart and knew how it would end?
Who says that a creator knows everything? The Creator (if there is one) might have created the cosmos as some create a model railway, to see how it turned out.
And why does god test us? I'm thinking of job.... god already knew that answer....
Not everyone who believes in a Supreme being accepts the Bible. And omniscience doesn't necessarily mean knowing the future which, by definition, doesn't exist.
So i just don't get WHY a god would even exist... could be why they are so rare.
No. You don't get why a creator as depicted in the Old Testament and interpreted under the influence of Neoplatonism would exist. Neither do I. But gods are a different question — they're hardly rare.
 

Poppa

Member
You seem to have a deceptively narrow and wholly anthropomorphic view of God.

Well, i suppose being human would have an effect on how i view things. Narrow? It wasn't i who said there is a god that sees all, does all... i suppose you want to say god is beyond our comprehension and therefor unknowable.... i say we won't ever know unless we question.
 

Poppa

Member
What is the purpose of holding onto such a naive and childish conception of God? Might be the better question.

So if you have a more mature view, enlighten me. My only reference is what those around me tell me about god. Does the catholic church tell it's parishioners one thing and believe another?
 

Poppa

Member
I don't believe God is a mind reader

what goes on in your head......is just you

and it stays that way until the last breath
THEN God and heaven show up to see whatever stands from the dust

Interesting. Then where does the power of prayer come from. God does not have the ability to hear prayers? I find it interesting that people - and i guess i am talking catholics since i grew up that way - tend to have their own versions of what god is, and what the bible means etc., yet if you question them , they take offense that I might have another opinion.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I mean... he already knows everything. Would you bother reading a book if you knew every word by heart and knew how it would end? I suppose there are books that i have reread, but that is mostly because they were good and i forgot a lot and i hope that i will pick something up that i missed the first time through. That couldn't happen to a god.

What would your purpose be if you already knew the answer. And why does god test us? I'm thinking of job.... god already knew that answer.... and what about testing abraham? He knew whether he would sacrifice his son or not so why bother to act surprised? Oh! i didn't know you were going to do that! (yes, you did god) here's a goat!

So i just don't get WHY a god would even exist and why they wouldn't just go bonkers and cease their own existence... could be why they are so rare.


I would question everything coming from holy books. Holy books are creations of mankind. You are getting beliefs. I would never assume they are facts.

You are right. When God sends you adversity and challenges, God already knows the answers. On the other hand, you do not.

Wisdom is acquired on the journey to resolve adversity and challenges. Do you see? It has all been for you rather than for God.
 

Poppa

Member
What, exactly, is your purpose?
My purpose? in general? To live life, to continue the huuman population via my children and ensure they are healthy and thinking.

Why do you ask the same questions in most of your posts?
I am not aware that I do. Perhaps it is because the rhetoric is limited and i respond to what i can.


Why did you come here, unless it were to show off. (Hint: you're not really succeeding.)

To show off? Anonymously? LOL, hardly. Every so often i get the urge to see if the reasoning for faith has changed or if anyone is better able to explain their belief in some way that i may understand. But it always breaks down to a matter of faith, which is something that i don't comprehend. How can a person believe that god always existed (No creator of the creator) yet they cannot fathom matter/energy has always existed even when faced with the realization that you are surrounded by such stuff so it is obvious it had to always exist.

Who says that a creator knows everything? The Creator (if there is one) might have created the cosmos as some create a model railway, to see how it turned out.
So the purpose of life is to fulfill something's boring saturday afternoon? I would have hoped that the purpose of the creation of the universe, if it had to have one, was something on a grander scale...

Not everyone who believes in a Supreme being accepts the Bible. And omniscience doesn't necessarily mean knowing the future which, by definition, doesn't exist.
No, you are right. I probably shouldn't let my upbringing limit the conversation.

"future which, by definition, doesn't exist."
That actually is an interesting thought. What is time really? some just call it a measurement manufactured by man to mark passage of events. But i hear the term Space/Time over and over as if time is a physical property... can you have space without time.. i ay need to do some reading on that.
 

Poppa

Member
You are right. When God sends you adversity and challenges, God already knows the answers. On the other hand, you do not.

Wisdom is acquired on the journey to resolve adversity and challenges. Do you see? It has all been for you rather than for God.

Seems like a pretty simplistic role for god and placing a huge sense of importance on man. are we that important? of what purpose is a bird or fish then? or lets make it tougher... another animal with a sense of self... elephants. are they also on this journey?
 
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