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World Ceasefire- the beginning of the end of War?

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Putin laughs at the idea. If anyone around him has something he wants and they buy in to that, it'll probably end like Georgia during the Olympics. When it comes to sectarian conflicts, very edgy, maybe, maybe not, I can see many using it as opportunity for slaughter. Or traps and ambushes.
We are animals. Nothing more. Nothing less. An animal with a tendency for violence. It's a cute gesture, but the gestures to secure the necessary trust to actually do that is going to be a very difficult and very fragile thing to establish.

I agree it’s going to be difficult but I don’t agree with the idea that man is basically an animal, I think that that idea has been promulgated and promoted by the churches that man is born with mortal sin and born a sinner and is a false conception of what constitutes a true human being. I believe we are born pure , noble creatures, noble beings and we have spirits that we can rise above the base instincts of our animal behaviour which is required for us to look after our physical bodies but we are capable of much more than what we are now. Just that we haven’t matured to that level yet doesn’t mean that we are animals and are forever in capable of rising to Noble Heights.

I believe over the centuries humanity has matured, science has matured and we are entering an age where war will become a thing of the past where people will value human life more than they ever have and we will start to value things like human rights and the well-being of humanity above personal interests.I believe we are entering an age where war will become a thing of the past.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Unfortunately, I do not believe the world will become better as times go, there will be a lot worse since in my understanding we are in the Dharma ending period (end of the world as we know it)

Hi Amanaki. Which Dharma period do you believe we are in?
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
World control - the end. This is one of the false miracles of the Antichrist, and it is clear from what I say WHO that I consider the Antichrist to be.

Peace is great and all but sometimes fighting is necessary. So is risking your life. Read Proverbs 26 about lions.
  1. If you're fighting for independence from another country
  2. If you're being oppressed by a religious or political regime
  3. If thugs and murderers are trying to take your wife, your freedom, your property, or your life away.

Yes I agree totally with you that it’s important not to allow injustices in the world to continue. There is sometimes need I believe for a just war and to stand up against oppression to ensure that everybody has their rights respected and have proper freedoms.

To me personally I believe the antichrist exists with in the religion itself that the priests now instead of the teachings of Jesus or the words of Jesus, have taken over the religion of God and what they’re telling their people is that they have the true Christ and when Christ returned in the Glory of the Father, Baha’u’llah, they instructed their followers that he was an impostor and a false Prophet not to be believed.

So for instance, the antichrist of the Jewish religion I believe would’ve been the Pharisees and Sadducees who told their followers that Christ was not the true one that he wasn’t the Messiah so they were the antichrist of that generation.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
The beginning of unity and peace, biblically, is Christ's return. The COVID-19 situation is leading to other biblical concepts, such as the end of cash currency and the ushering in of one world government under Antichrist.

I think with communications and international travel that a new age has dawned where world peace and world unity have become possible because I believe Christ has already returned, as one of the signs was that knowledge would be increased dramatically which it has. I think with communications and international travel that a new age has dawned where world peace and world unity have physically become possible because I believe Christ has already returned in the Glory of the Father with of course His New Name as promised to His followers in the Book of Revelation.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
While I love the optimism, I personally cannot see how one could draw this conclusion based on the entire history of our species.

A young child may be naughty and undisciplined but as he grows and develops and matures he may turn out to be one of the most decent and nicest people you could ever hope to meet.

So too with humanity as a species I believe we have progressed through the stages of infancy, childhood, youth, adolescence and now on the verge of maturity. That is why I have a great help and humanity because I do not believe we were born sinners all with models in order that we were born evil I believe we were both born good and that we were born pure.That is why I have a great hope in humanity because I do not believe we were born sinners or inherited mortal sin or that we were born evil. I totally believe we were born good and that we were born pure.


There is just too much goodness in humanity to ever believe anything other than we are basically good people.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
"Amanpour and Company", which would include the WHO, made the Co-19 virus consequences worse by down playing the Wuhan incidence and discouraging quarantining China from the US. Even the head of the CDC downplayed the Co-19 virus until the 27th of March based on WHO information. Depending on the UN or its WHO agency is a curse in itself. Preparing for war, and subsequently diverting war, is a much cheaper route than not preparing, and creating a power vacuum filled by the unscrupulous, who will eat the poor, or at least harvest and sell their organs at a profit. The death rate for the co-19 virus is no higher than any serious flu, which according to CDC is around 0.1%, and seems to kill only the unhealthy and the very old. Kind of like the wolves in Yellow Stone Park. Now with the wolves in Yellowstone, the land has recovered its vegetation, and the overall animal population is healthy and better proportioned.

The system as it is now I don’t believe can much longer sustain itself. A new more just system I believe must rise from the ashes of all this corruption eventually. People, in the end, I believe will prevail and bring about a better world.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
The fact Jesus body has not been found does not mean it did not decompose like every other human body. Science proves this. I believe the interpretation of the Bible by some verges on fantasy and superstition and that in reality it is the Christ Spirit that lives on in the hearts and minds of people not His body.

It was part of the Messianic prophesies that his body would not see decay. He was in his tomb for three days and nights, before his resurrection. His tomb was empty, not because someone took his body, but because it had been sacrificed for mankind. He was raised as a spirit in order to return to heaven.
Acts 13:32-37...
"And we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers, 33 that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, ‘You are My Son; today i have begotten You.’ 34 As for the fact that He raised Him up from the dead, no longer to return to decay, He has spoken in this way: ‘I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David.’ 35 Therefore He also says in another Psalm, ‘You will not allow Your Holy One to undergo decay.’ 36 For David, after he had served the purpose of God in his own generation, fell asleep, and was laid among his fathers and underwent decay; 37 but He whom God raised did not undergo decay." (NASB. Psalm 16:10)

I am afraid that your reality sounds like fantasy to me....you need to believe that in order to accept your prophet as Christ returned. Your beliefs do not harmonize with scripture.

Just like the saying the kingdom of God is within you so Jesus is within you but not His body and not a kingdom of stone.
That has to be one of the most misquoted scriptures in Christendom. :facepalm:

Luke 17:20-21....
"Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.” (NASB)

Who was Jesus addressing when he said that?
He was speaking to the hypocritical religious Pharisees in answer to a question they had raised. Jesus was not speaking to his faithful followers and telling them that the Kingdom was something ‘in their midst’ in the sense of being in their hearts. Instead, he was telling the disbelieving Pharisees that he, Jesus, as the representative of the future Kingdom of God, was present among them on that occasion.

At Matthew 15:6-8 Jesus roundly condemned the Pharisees.....
"...So you have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: 8 ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me."
There was no kingdom of God within those wicked hearts.

According to Daniel's prophesies, the Kingdom of God is a theocratic government that will overthrow all corrupt earthly kingdoms and crush them out of existence......the kingdom of God will then replace failed human rulership with God's rulership over this earth as he intended all along. (Daniel 2:44) Not only will he accomplish that but I believe that the events on earth at present are indicating that this event is not far away. This is the final part of the last days of this present system of things. Jesus taught us to pray for this Kingdom to "come" so that God's will can be "done on earth as it is in heaven".

This will soon be a reality according to my beliefs.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The system as it is now I don’t believe can much longer sustain itself. A new more just system I believe must rise from the ashes of all this corruption eventually. People, in the end, I believe will prevail and bring about a better world.

The economic Keynesian philosophy of the US federal bank is dependent on extended economic growth, and has the risk of deflation if not achieved. Under this model only the printing of money can counter a complete breakdown, and in itself is stealing from the unborn for the immediate gratification of the dying old so they can fill their freezers with high end ice cream. When that system reaches zero interest rates, and faces stress, that system will break down under its own weight, and printing RMB in China has caused the same problem, and will lead to more instability and threat of war. As long as one buys more than they have cash for, they are part of this "corruption" problem. The end of the "corruption" comes about when all the kingdoms listed in Daniel 2:44 are "crushed" all at the same time. Historically, those kingdoms have been crushed individually by force of arms. This final crush may be helped along by a "great earthquake" (Revelation 6:12). The UN would be a compilation of all the kingdoms which are about to be "crushed" They are the blind leading the blind, and the sooner the US uncouples from the UN, the better. The US has enough problems of their own. The only saving grace is that the "great earthquake" will probably disrupt power supply, and the high end ice cream of the old will spoil in place.
 
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loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
It was part of the Messianic prophesies that his body would not see decay. He was in his tomb for three days and nights, before his resurrection. His tomb was empty, not because someone took his body, but because it had been sacrificed for mankind. He was raised as a spirit in order to return to heaven.
Acts 13:32-37...
"And we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers, 33 that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, ‘You are My Son; today i have begotten You.’ 34 As for the fact that He raised Him up from the dead, no longer to return to decay, He has spoken in this way: ‘I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David.’ 35 Therefore He also says in another Psalm, ‘You will not allow Your Holy One to undergo decay.’ 36 For David, after he had served the purpose of God in his own generation, fell asleep, and was laid among his fathers and underwent decay; 37 but He whom God raised did not undergo decay." (NASB. Psalm 16:10)

I am afraid that your reality sounds like fantasy to me....you need to believe that in order to accept your prophet as Christ returned. Your beliefs do not harmonize with scripture.


That has to be one of the most misquoted scriptures in Christendom. :facepalm:

Luke 17:20-21....
"Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.” (NASB)

Who was Jesus addressing when he said that?
He was speaking to the hypocritical religious Pharisees in answer to a question they had raised. Jesus was not speaking to his faithful followers and telling them that the Kingdom was something ‘in their midst’ in the sense of being in their hearts. Instead, he was telling the disbelieving Pharisees that he, Jesus, as the representative of the future Kingdom of God, was present among them on that occasion.

At Matthew 15:6-8 Jesus roundly condemned the Pharisees.....
"...So you have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: 8 ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me."
There was no kingdom of God within those wicked hearts.

According to Daniel's prophesies, the Kingdom of God is a theocratic government that will overthrow all corrupt earthly kingdoms and crush them out of existence......the kingdom of God will then replace failed human rulership with God's rulership over this earth as he intended all along. (Daniel 2:44) Not only will he accomplish that but I believe that the events on earth at present are indicating that this event is not far away. This is the final part of the last days of this present system of things. Jesus taught us to pray for this Kingdom to "come" so that God's will can be "done on earth as it is in heaven".

This will soon be a reality according to my beliefs.

the very same thing is the Christ has always been going to return after the first of all he was going to return the second or well while he was going to return the tsunami the financial crisis and World trade Centre all the time the church is just keep saying he's going to return his going to return and I'll keep saying he's going to return forever because they don't want to lose their followers when he does return because when he doesn't turn there's every indication that he's going to set up his own kingdom and not appoint the people who have received his faith now
It was part of the Messianic prophesies that his body would not see decay. He was in his tomb for three days and nights, before his resurrection. His tomb was empty, not because someone took his body, but because it had been sacrificed for mankind. He was raised as a spirit in order to return to heaven.
Acts 13:32-37...
"And we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers, 33 that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, ‘You are My Son; today i have begotten You.’ 34 As for the fact that He raised Him up from the dead, no longer to return to decay, He has spoken in this way: ‘I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David.’ 35 Therefore He also says in another Psalm, ‘You will not allow Your Holy One to undergo decay.’ 36 For David, after he had served the purpose of God in his own generation, fell asleep, and was laid among his fathers and underwent decay; 37 but He whom God raised did not undergo decay." (NASB. Psalm 16:10)

I am afraid that your reality sounds like fantasy to me....you need to believe that in order to accept your prophet as Christ returned. Your beliefs do not harmonize with scripture.


That has to be one of the most misquoted scriptures in Christendom. :facepalm:

Luke 17:20-21....
"Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.” (NASB)

Who was Jesus addressing when he said that?
He was speaking to the hypocritical religious Pharisees in answer to a question they had raised. Jesus was not speaking to his faithful followers and telling them that the Kingdom was something ‘in their midst’ in the sense of being in their hearts. Instead, he was telling the disbelieving Pharisees that he, Jesus, as the representative of the future Kingdom of God, was present among them on that occasion.

At Matthew 15:6-8 Jesus roundly condemned the Pharisees.....
"...So you have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: 8 ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me."
There was no kingdom of God within those wicked hearts.

According to Daniel's prophesies, the Kingdom of God is a theocratic government that will overthrow all corrupt earthly kingdoms and crush them out of existence......the kingdom of God will then replace failed human rulership with God's rulership over this earth as he intended all along. (Daniel 2:44) Not only will he accomplish that but I believe that the events on earth at present are indicating that this event is not far away. This is the final part of the last days of this present system of things. Jesus taught us to pray for this Kingdom to "come" so that God's will can be "done on earth as it is in heaven".

This will soon be a reality according to my beliefs.

Then I believe it’s best just to keep waiting and waiting like the Jews are awaiting Christ’s first return. Unfortunately they were held back by their interpretations of scriptures and they believe they are right that the first Christ didn’t appear just like Christians say today He hasn’t returned.


As a former Christian my response to news that Jesus had returned was where? When? How? I didn’t just automatically assume that I was wise enough to know He had not returned. I opened my heart and mind so Im very glad I didn’t listen to the voices of rejection and turned to Him not myself and my own opinions. I opened my heart to the possibility that Lord Jesus has returned in the Person of Baha’u’llah and am filled with joy to have found out through my own investigation that it’s true.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
The economic Keynesian philosophy of the US federal bank is dependent on extended economic growth, and has the risk of deflation if not achieved. Under this model only the printing of money can counter a complete breakdown, and in itself is stealing from the unborn for the immediate gratification of the dying old so they can fill their freezers with high end ice cream. When that system reaches zero interest rates, and faces stress, that system will break down under its own weight, and printing RMB in China has caused the same problem, and will lead to more instability and threat of war. As long as one buys more than they have cash for, they are part of this "corruption" problem. The end of the "corruption" comes about when all the kingdoms listed in Daniel 2:44 are "crushed" all at the same time. Historically, those kingdoms have been crushed individually by force of arms. This final crush may be helped along by a "great earthquake" (Revelation 6:12). The UN would be a compilation of all the kingdoms which are about to be "crushed" They are the blind leading the blind, and the sooner the US uncouples from the UN, the better. The US has enough problems of their own. The only saving grace is that the "great earthquake" will probably disrupt power supply, and the high end ice cream of the old will spoil in place.


The problem i believe is that society is too materialistic. Too little is done for the love of God or for the love of humanity. We need a spiritual renewal.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
The one problem I can see if they try to establish peace is who will run the show.
Who else? Bahaollah! ;)
I think that that idea has been promulgated and promoted by the churches that man is born with mortal sin and born a sinner and is a false conception of what constitutes a true human being.
With that you condemn Christianity. Bahaollah! Jesus died in vain.
The only reason I have that hope is because of what Baha'u'llah wrote about the new race of men that will emerge.
I did not know that the 19th Century Iranian preacher was interested in Biology. So, a new race of men. Will they have horns?
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
The problem i believe is that society is too materialistic. Too little is done for the love of God or for the love of humanity. We need a spiritual renewal.
Yeah, we do. That is why Allah sent Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the Mahdi, of the Ahmadi Muslims after he had sent Bahaollah. It is a tough task and Allah has not been able to do it even after he has sent hundreds of Manifestations to all people of the world. First Allah makes men materialistic and then tries to make them spiritual. Design fault. What can these manifestations do?
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The problem i believe is that society is too materialistic. Too little is done for the love of God or for the love of humanity. We need a spiritual renewal.

Your "spiritual renewal" ("I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you") follows the gathering of Israel out of the nations (Ezekiel 36:22-26). This follows "I will destroy completely all the nations" (Jeremiah 30:11), but "I will not destroy you (Jacob/Israel) completely. But I will chasten you justly"" (Jeremiah 30:11). Beware what you wish for. "In the latter day you will understand this" (Jeremiah 30:24). We are now in the "latter days", yet only "those who have insight will understand" (Daniel 12:10). Those with an overabundance of high end ice cream will probably loose more than just their ice cream, and will probably seek their own death (Revelation 9:16) The judgment comes because of sin and iniquity. (Jeremiah 30:14) It might be wise to repent of one's sin (transgression of the Law), and seek the baptism of the Spirit of God. Stop following false prophets might be a good start.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Who else? Bahaollah! ;)With that you condemn Christianity. Bahaollah! Jesus died in vain.I did not know that the 19th Century Iranian preacher was interested in Biology. So, a new race of men. Will they have horns?

I believe in Christianity just the version Jesus taught not the clergy.
 

izzy88

Active Member
I believe in Christianity just the version Jesus taught not the clergy.

The problem with this is that you're depending on your own knowledge, understanding, and interpretation of writings which were composed in specific, ancient cultural contexts, in languages I assume you do not speak, and which cannot possibly be accurately understood outside of the cultural contexts of when they were written. Unless you are at least an anthropologist, a biblical scholar, a speaker of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, and a theologian - and the best in the world at all of those - what makes you think you have any idea what any of these writings are actually supposed to mean?

Have you read the documents in their original languages? Have you studied the culture that Jesus would have lived within, not just Jewish culture at the time, but even the local cultures of Nazareth and Galilee? Do you know anything about their customs, their traditions, their laws? Virtually everything written in the New Testament was written for a specific audience at a specific place and time - of which you are obviously not a member.

My point is that you do not possess anywhere near the level of knowledge and understanding in the relevant areas to have the slightest bit of confidence in your own interpretations of these ancient writings, anymore than you could have discovered and understood the entire field of quantum mechanics on your own - you need other people who are experts in the field to explain to you how it all works and what it all means, because you simply don't have the experience or the knowledge to figure it out yourself. It's no different for something like the Judeo-Christian scriptures.

I mean, the Bible itself was compiled by the Church, who decided which writings were legitimate and which ones weren't, so you're already depending on them for that, I assume - unless you also have read and studied all of the apocryphal writings from around that same time, of which there are far more than you likely realize.

And yet you think you're justified in ignoring 2,000 years of some of the greatest minds in history all working with each other to try to understand and interpret this collection of texts we call the New Testament, and instead just pulling your own interpretation out of nowhere?

Really think about all this; how does it make the least bit of sense to do what you're doing? Are you going to just read through a massive collection of mathematical formulas and come up with your own interpretation of them? How accurate do you think such an interpretation could possibly be?
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
While Christians continue to believe He will descend on physical clouds from the physical sky He will never return for them because it will never happen. He said to watch which in my understanding is to watch for the appearance of a great spiritual being with great wisdom and great knowledge and that would be the Father, the return of Jesus. Which I believe to be Baha’u’llah.
Of course Baha'is have to tie in, "fulfill" the prophecies of the other religions too, but... which verses in the Bible are Baha'is using to say that The Christ will return as the Father?

That is not how the Bible tells it. Nor is anyone with an unpronounceable name prophesied to be "Christ returned". It beggars belief to me that anyone can acknowledge a prophet just on his say so. Baha’u’llah is no one to anyone but Baha'i's. He in no way scripturally represents the second coming of the Messiah for many reasons.

1) He had no credentials....nothing to demonstrate his claims. He didn't perform miracles nor did he institute the blessings of the Kingdom as Jesus promised he would on his return. (Revelation 21:2-4)

2) The wicked are still with us, death still takes lives and human suffering has not ceased... and Jesus said he was going to dispatch the wicked along with his angelic forces at the end of this age. (Matthew 13:36-43) Nothing Jesus predicted with his return has seen fulfillment with Baha’u’llah....most people have no idea how to even pronounce his name. (including me)

3) Baha’u’llah died of disease. Jesus Christ was a perfect human who would never have succumbed to illness or death by natural causes. He was not the son of humans but the Son of God, whose life was miraculously produced so that he would not inherit the sin of Adam. If you understand the ransom as it is explained in the Bible, you will see how absurd it is to think of a sinful human as the returned Christ....no matter how wise his words may seem.

4) Baha’u’llah was hailed as a prophet by men because they believed him and when he died they gave him an ornate burial tomb.....where is Jesus' burial tomb?

5) None of the prophesies concerning Messiah's return have been fulfilled in all these years after Baha’u’llah's death.....in fact the world has gotten progressively worse.
Yes you are comparing Baha'u'llah to Jesus, but, since they believe Muhammad and The Bab were also "Christs" then they have to be shown how they fulfilled prophecies also. Prophecies that would point to there being three "returns" since Jesus.

For Baha'u'llah they use Daniel's prophecies that when William Miller calculated them out they came out to 1844. They use Revelation to show how the return would happen in year 1260 of the Muslim calendar which is 1844. But, 1844 is not Baha'u'llah. It is when The Bab announced he was a messenger from God and the forerunner of a promised one to come later. Which would be like if Daniel predicted the day that Jesus would come, but instead it was the day that John the Baptist came.

But, even with the problems I can see with these prophecies, they are the strongest ones I've seen them give. And I'm yet to hear a Christian say why William Miller's calculations that lead up to 1844 are wrong. So if they are right, what happened? Why didn't Jesus come back? Or, is the Baha'i Faith that promised return? Other problems I've seen is that they use the "Three Woes" in Revelation as being Muhammad, The Bab and Baha'u'llah. In context of the verses, I don't see it. Besides, the Woes seem to be terrible judgements against the people on the Earth. I don't see how the Baha'is can say how these Woes are returns of Christ.

Another questionable interpretation for me is how they make the Beasts and dragon of Revelation the Umayyad and Abbasid dynasties of Islam. Another is how they say that it was Ishmael, not Isaac, that Abraham took to be sacrificed. Since JW's have studied the Bible as much or more than most other Christians, does any of this make any since to you?
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
In recent developments due to the corona virus, world leaders are on the verge of calling for a world ceasefire. So that monies can be spent on the health and well being of people.

Is this virus leading us and the world to establish world peace and rid the world finally of the curse and expense of war?


I believe peace is inevitable but I never imagined such a tiny virus to be the catalyst to push the world towards peace. With funding and economies strained and stressed it makes all the sense in the world that governments can no longer afford wars and an arms race when their populations are stricken with illness and they need monies for medicines and the well being of people.


Amanpour and Company | UN Secretary-General Calls for Global Ceasefire | Season 2020

World unity and peace - the beginning?
I'm sure someone has already mentioned it, but other plagues didn't put a stop to war. Even in the U.S. we have mini war zones in the "bad" sides of town. Guns, drugs, prostitution rings being run by gangs. Then rival gangs shoot each other. The "radical" right is preparing for war. Even the police have had some of its people go too far and shoot innocent people. Then we have cyber-criminals and corrupt politicians and other "white" collar criminals.

So part of the solution has to address all these other problems in society too. I know the Baha'i Peace statement goes into some of those things. But, until those "small" problems are dealt with, I don't think peace between nations is going to happen. Drug lords have guns. Corrupt leaders have guns. Radicals on the left and right have guns. Young kids in gangs have guns. "Good" citizens have guns in order to protect themselves from all the bad people. What do the Baha'is say about fixing those problems? 'Cause, as soon as the virus is over, all those things and the "big" wars will keep going.
 

Agent

Member
14] They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
[15] Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
Jer.6
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
14] They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
[15] Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
Jer.6

Meaningless gibberish from another era and specific situation applied to the headlines today. Really sad.
 
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