Originally it was the angel of death passing over the houses marked with the blood of lamb without defects placed over the door. As the angels of death are coming again (Mt 13:39-40) (Rev 8:7), how will they determine what houses to bypass (Dt 6:8-9)? Those with the mark of the beast, apparently will have something to worry about.(Rev 19:20-21) The mark of God seems pretty evident (Dt 6:8). What is the mark of the beast, and who is the beast, and who are his two horns, and what is their relevance?
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What does Passover represent?
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exchemist
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I've always treated Revelation as one long acid trip. I don't think you get anywhere taking it literally.
I've had the virus by the way, extremely mildly, and recovered - except that my sense of taste and smell has not yet fully returned. Perhaps you can tell me whether that has anything to do with this beast of yours.
It's hard to know. The task has been outsourced to pigeons. I've heard that stale french fries work, but I don't recommend relying on anecdotal evidence. Perhaps if you challenge your inner birdbrain and reread Revelations, a more reliable answer become manifest.
Wandering Monk
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I reject your Bible as having any kind of authority.
I don't think it had anything to do with Revelation. IMV, it had to do with The Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world (talking in the Christian understanding)
The Bible certainly contains elements of nonsense.
Imagine someone coming on horseback with a sword in his mouth to slay non-believers.
A fighter jet at 30,000 feet would be out of his reach, and dispense with him quickly.
Jedster
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74x12
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So what else is symbolism, is slaying non-believers also symbol?
Also if the horseback rider is coming to speak the Word of God doesn’t that contradict the Christian claim that the Bible is the final Word of God?
rational experiences
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First of all humans should say to self. I live as a baby to adult. My 2 original human being parents, historically own my natural life and owned their own life.
Their human lives scientifically are lived after the life of a monkey/ape in Nature.
Then you talk other science, The Destroyer sciences.
Studies of natural Earth conditions.
Science on Earth began in modern times after the ICE AGE and dinosaur extinction of animals living in the Nature Garden.
As modern day scientists, where did you get the pyramid science information from?
They would tell you, once we lived before a long time ago...and had all life destroyed on Earth. Back then I was a brotherhood just of human males living in the Nature Garden...where the theme for science came from.
On modern day Earth I am just a thinker, owner of DNA returned/reincarnated about what I did before.
So first of all I look at the 4 seasons. And the 4 seasons only exist on Earth after the dinosaurs did.
The 4 seasons would not have previously existed, for we own 4 seasons due to ICE MASS....a cause of Earth being hit.
Therefore I would own factually non stop lying about all stories that I try to quote claiming I am wise or given information of fact about beginnings on Earth....for I am a liar in self proof that science is a liar.
Their human lives scientifically are lived after the life of a monkey/ape in Nature.
Then you talk other science, The Destroyer sciences.
Studies of natural Earth conditions.
Science on Earth began in modern times after the ICE AGE and dinosaur extinction of animals living in the Nature Garden.
As modern day scientists, where did you get the pyramid science information from?
They would tell you, once we lived before a long time ago...and had all life destroyed on Earth. Back then I was a brotherhood just of human males living in the Nature Garden...where the theme for science came from.
On modern day Earth I am just a thinker, owner of DNA returned/reincarnated about what I did before.
So first of all I look at the 4 seasons. And the 4 seasons only exist on Earth after the dinosaurs did.
The 4 seasons would not have previously existed, for we own 4 seasons due to ICE MASS....a cause of Earth being hit.
Therefore I would own factually non stop lying about all stories that I try to quote claiming I am wise or given information of fact about beginnings on Earth....for I am a liar in self proof that science is a liar.
MNoBody
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well, that is a trick question given that there are 2 traditions involved [and context is important]
originally, these traditions and stories were an entirely Hebrew custom,
for thousands of years [ostensibly] and it was later that the christian sect came about,
OUT of the Hebrew traditions.
The history of the early church shows that there were some differences
as to observation of the laws, but essentially it was a child of the Hebrew parent religion.
The rejection of the 'parent' by the 'child' over the centuries
has resulted in the christian culture being largely ignorant and mildly xenophobic
regarding the very religion which spawned the one they chose to embrace....very curious,
in any case, this has resulted in many specious debates that would probably disappear if the 'child' would study the roots of their own heritage [with a less prejudiced mindset would be great too]
74x12
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Well ... as far as that is concerned; probably not symbolic. We see God will punish the world with His Word.
Isaiah 11:4
But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
rod of His mouth - tongue
breath of lips - word
So God speaks with His tongue/breath like we do. But His Word brings either good or destruction. For example if God speaks a prophecy for good about someone then it happens or if He speaks a prophecy that something bad will happen then it will.
You're thinking of those who say "sola scriptura" maybe ... Jesus didn't say sola scriptura. He said "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God shall man live"
So, God always speaks and that's the Word of God. However it does include scripture. But that's not the end.
rational experiences
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Like us he says.
Maybe because the first scientist before science was even quoted, was a human being male brother who got his mouth and tongue burnt...like I did when I got irradiated.
Remember won't you male's you invented all meanings and all words that you quote is the science of God destruction...to attack/convert it.
Science was never based on you creating or inventing God. And still after all this time the relative lying of your own history has not sunk into your thoughts!
Fair enough, but coming back to Revelation 19, it seems to speak of armies the way traditional armies faced of each other in the fields on horseback during ancient times.
‘And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come,gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, great and small.”
It seems to lack vision of what modern warfare would look like. Which armies of the kings, generals, and the mighty would be mounted on horseback in today’s times?
74x12
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I don't know. Good catch. It would be hard to take that literally these days. It could be symbolism.
rational experiences
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In the past, where it occurred humans were riding horses.
It was an everyday mass activity by a lot of humans.
The Holy War proves itself in human life that around the era of chosen reasoning to go to war, maths and science and cosmological studies had re emerged and began being re applied in the Muslim community. And the history of causation is the effects of radiation fall out, that changes the brain/mind and imbalances its rational ability to use human rationale.
Which is one of the warnings stated about radiation science.
The Shroud of Turin proved that a later day same irradiation fall out attack on human males occurred and it also attacked the animal lives...the same as the UFO ground attacks in modern life also have proven that exact circumstance.
And it is why they went to Holy War to stop the Temple and pyramid technology/sciences, which in the olden days was transmutations of metals, but they still were using radio wave transmitters that were like a power plant to force conversion and to transmute.
Why life was attacked by fall out conditions.
And it is apparent that it was true.
Hence spiritual teachings, healing of the conscious mind, spiritual truth was practiced and taught and applied about human conditioning to be loving, kind and caring and to love all of humanity no matter what belief you owned about Holy land or personal DNA.
Historically the reason for changed DNA is nuclear separate historic ground attacks in country variations.
Humans have fought for such a long time to gain a moment in their lives to tell their own truth for self and life continuance. Why don't you scientist agree with us?
The answer, because of human greed.
74x12
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Let me get this right.
- The crusades were to stop Muslims from using technology in the temple and pyramids of Egypt? And, that technology was changing metals?
- And some people were nuked/irradiated including animals which fulfills Revelation 19?
- And people's DNA was changed by the radiation from nuclear war. And their brains were also changed and they can't think rationally?
- And spiritual teachings were given?
Well, as far as OT writings, regarding the "nations"/Gentiles being destroyed/judged, well try looking at Joel 2:31- Joel 3:2 & 12, whereas Armageddon is described. Or you can go to Jeremiah 30:10-11, whereas the "nations"/Gentiles are "destroyed" yet Jacob is simply Chastened". As far as the testimony of Yeshua, well Moses, in the OT, says to listen to the prophet to come. And what is the difference between the Gentile Christians of Paul and Judah, well, Paul nailed the Law to the cross, and many of the Jews nail the Law to their doorpost.
The "Lamb of God", may take away the sins of he world by casting the sinners into the fire (Mt 3:10), or simply slaying them with the sword from his mouth.(Rev 19:21).