Everyone practices Falun Dafa, and the epidemic will soon pass

Spirit of Light · Apr 9, 2020

atanu said:
Thank you. Actually Marxist ideology is only a sub set of materialism. Do you mean to say that Falun is against materialism or is it specifically against the communistic aspect of materialism?

I reject materialism but I like the egalitarian ideologies.

Materialism is only a human answer for that we craving things to own.
It is not a problem to own objects in your life, but the attachments to it are the problem. we should live without attachments to anything.

atanu · Apr 9, 2020

Amanaki said:
Materialism is only a human answer for that we craving things to own.
It is not a problem to own objects in your life, but the attachments to it are the problem. we should live without attachments to anything.

By materialism, I meant the idea that matter and their properties can explain everything and consequently the idea that "I am" is product of body. The problem with this is that no one really knows what 'matter' is.

Spirit of Light · Apr 9, 2020

atanu said:
By materialism, I meant the idea that matter and their properties can explain everything and consequently the idea that "I am" is product of body. The problem with this is that no one really knows what 'matter' is.

Well, my understanding (not from Falun Gong teaching) is that matter is similar to karma, so technically, even as human beings we carry a lot of karma from bad habits, wrongdoings and so on, so if and when we can stop doing wrongdoings and we cultivate body and mind we could free us from this physical realm that makes us feel suffering. So in a way, this physical realm was created to give human beings a last chance to repay all the negative we have done and when this happens we no longer need to be reborn into the physical body. we will be without any karma and any physical existance.

Samantha Rinne · Apr 9, 2020

Also, does anyone actually know how to practice Falun Dafa?

Because that sounds like an overly complex cure.

Spirit of Light · Apr 9, 2020

Samantha Rinne said:
Also, does anyone actually know how to practice Falun Dafa?

Because that sounds like an overly complex cure.

Healing others is not a part of Falun Gong.

Yes, it is not only training of the mind, but there are also physical exercises for strengthening the Gong energy that is a part of the cultivation.
But 95% of the cultivation is the study and practicing the teaching found in the book called Zhuan Falun. It is not a religion with belief, it is a cultivation path for realizing the truth from within the teaching.
Strengthening our morals, end the attachments to everything we are attached to in this physical existence.
Everything within the cultivation of Falun Gong about becomes a "purified person" also known as a form Buddha (no not the historical Buddha Sakyamuni he had his own path 2500 year ago)

Falun Gong is known as high energy cultivation. Gong is an high energy whereas Chi is a lower form of energy mostly used for healing. Gong energy is not used for healing, actually, if a practitioner did gain Gong energy he or she would not be allowed to try to heal others.
The Gong energy is needed to reach the higher wisdom level within Falun Gong.

A Vestigial Mote · Apr 9, 2020

the soul said:
Everyone practices Falun Dafa, and the epidemic will soon pass

This is absolutely no different than that pastor Kenneth Copeland "blowing" COVID-19 away with "the wind of God." Exactly the same. So many people... so many dumb things said/thought/asserted. We definitely need less of this crap.

Spirit of Light · Apr 9, 2020

A Vestigial Mote said:
This is absolutely no different than that pastor Kenneth Copeland "blowing" COVID-19 away with "the wind of God." Exactly the same. So many people... so many dumb things said/thought/asserted. We definitely need less of this crap.

No matter how many practices Falun Gong Covid-19 will not magically disappear, Cultivation has to do with each one of us and how we on a personal level does it. The Covid-19 would probably come no matter what.

GoodbyeDave · Apr 9, 2020

the soul said:
The American people will not be infected by COVID-19 according to the new scriptures published by Li Hongzhi, the master of Falun Dafa … So even if the American people are infected, they … will never die.

Now you know why the Chinese government bans this creepy cult!

Spirit of Light · Apr 9, 2020

DavidMcCann said:
Now you know why the Chinese government bans this creepy cult!

Falun Gong is not a cult

It is a cultivation path. unfortunately, the OP has got very little knowledge about Falun Gong and our teacher. So the info he have is incomplete and mostly wrong

robocop (actually) · Apr 9, 2020

the soul said:
The American people will not be infected by COVID-19 according to the new scriptures published by Li Hongzhi, the master of Falun Dafa whose headquarter the Dragon Springs is located in New York. Li said the outbreak of Covid-19 is directed against the Communist Party of China. Thus only those who are close to the Communist Party of China will be infected. So even if the American people are infected, they can only be the carriers of the virus, but will never die. Therefore, ventilators and masks are unnecessary. As long as everyone practices Falun Dafa, the epidemic will be over soon.

So Boris Johnson is communist?

stvdv · Apr 9, 2020

Thank you for sharing, the original text.

Amanaki said:
Stay Rational
Pandemics and plagues1 are part of a divine plan and inevitable in the course of history. When people become immoral they generate karma, become sick, and experience disastrous things. In such circumstances, people who do not believe in the divine then resort to various “measures” [or “cuo-shi” in Chinese] to try to deal with things. But the fact that “cuo-shi” is a homophone for another term in Chinese, which means “mistaken approach,” is telling. There have been many helpful lessons left to us from history, but they are not taken seriously by Chinese people today owing to their atheistic thinking and their disbelief in the divine—both of which are the product of brainwashing by China’s Communist Party (CCP).

I agree, that our immoral way, generating karma, is the cause of troubles now.
I do not agree that "atheistic thinking" is a problem; the problem is "selfishness, egoistic, materialistic, exploiting, etc.". Atheist can be humane

Amanaki said:
Truth be told, pandemics only come when people’s morals and values have turned bad and they have come to have a massive amount of karma. So if a pandemic is divinely ordained, what can be done to stop it? It would be divine will, after all. Some people do realize this and pray for protection, but it probably won’t help. That is because people are supposed to be weeded out when their moral character has turned bad and their karma has become huge. Why would the divine offer them protection at that point, then? What people should do, instead, is to repent to the divine with all due sincerity, admit to their faults, and pray for a chance to change their ways. That is the way to go, and that is the magic cure.

I agree again.
Praying is good on personal level to give you peace of mind. But people need to change their corrupt mind/action/speech

Amanaki said:
But a pandemic like the current Chinese Communist Virus (or “Wuhan Virus”) comes with a purpose behind it, and it has targets. It is here to weed out members of the Party and those who have sided with it. If anyone is in doubt about this, just take a look at which countries or people have been hit hardest by the virus: it is those who have become close with the CCP. Then what should people do? People should distance themselves from the CCP and stop siding with it. Behind it is the red Devil, while outwardly it looks and acts like a thug who stops at no evil. So now that the divine is starting to eradicate it, all who still stand by it shall perish. Those who doubt this can wait and see.

I do not think it is only CCP who has been creating bad karma in the past 100 years. USA, UK, Holland, Germany ... all are guilty.

Amanaki said:
Any Dafa disciples who have not been diligent, or who are prone to acting in extreme ways, should immediately straighten themselves out, and sincerely study the Fa and work on themselves, for you are at great risk. True Dafa disciples have higher energy and are able to destroy karma and germs; they are emissaries of salvation in these latter days, and bring their wisdom to bear upon saving people as they share truthful information related to our practice. Also, I should mention that there are practitioners in many regions who are calling upon everyone to send righteous thoughts together to put an end to the Chinese Communist Virus (Wuhan Virus). But that is not the right idea. You are not here to change history, but rather, to save people at this most dangerous time in history, by raising awareness, persuading people to withdraw from China’s three major communist organizations, encouraging people to sincerely say the magic words,2 and so on. All of these are the best medicine possible, the best way to rescue people—when people’s morals change, things will change for the better. The CCP is in its death throes and trying to harm people by causing pandemonium in the world. Dafa disciples should not allow themselves to get ungrounded by any of this. Stick to the fundamentals, and you will be able to see the upheaval that’s taking place in the proper light.

Raising awareness is the key. Demonic actions create demonic karma/consequences... better start acting humane.

stvdv · Apr 9, 2020

Amanaki said:
People should distance themselves from the CCP and stop siding with it. Behind it is the red Devil, while outwardly it looks and acts like a thug who stops at no evil. So now that the divine is starting to eradicate it, all who still stand by it shall perish. Those who doubt this can wait and see.

IMHO:
Problem is not just CCP. The big problem is the 1% very rich elite. They will not give up their billion dollars easily, and they have their police system to control us. China goes much further in this, but also the West starts doing this, trying to control everyone. I see a big shift in the past 30 years in "being controlled" by the government in my country (Holland).

Now that awareness grows in the public, by having the internet. You need not be a genius, to know that the rich elite needs to control the public much more. So, I am sure that within 10 years the whole world we be as controlled as China is now. Otherwise the rich 1% elite, can never control the public. People will not accept to have taken away their pensions, their incomes, what is happening right now. So, this corona virus is kind of good for the rich 1%, as they will have more power now, as the public is full of fear.

Governments will use corona virus to quickly change from paper money to digital money (as paper money is dangerous). Once all are forced to use digital money, all will be puppets of the Governments. IF you go against them, they can block your money with one press on the right button.

I do not believe that the epidemic will soon pass. It will stop, when their goal is accomplished. I can't prove it; just my gut feeling and common sense. The 1% rich elite will not give up their power, so they need to control us more. Best done by fear, and making us dependent (poor, digital money)

Saint Frankenstein · Apr 9, 2020

Amanaki said:
I think it is both the right moment and the right effort from my part to give the words and also the link to what our teacher Li Hongzhi has said. First, i have copied the text directly from a Falun gong website called minghui.org and it is also this link i will provide in the end of this post.

To those who are not Falun Gong practitioner, I understand that some of what is written here will be both strange and maybe impossible for you to at this moment understand (honestly i do not understand all of it my self) So I ask of you if you feel a need to make a critique of the text or of our master/teacher you can send me a private message and I will provide you with my understanding and if possible, more quotes from our master.

So here is the following statement Li Hongzhi have given. Just remember that he was speaking to us who do cultivate Falun Gong. He does not speak to others as far as i know.

Friendly from Amanaki.

Stay Rational
Pandemics and plagues1 are part of a divine plan and inevitable in the course of history. When people become immoral they generate karma, become sick, and experience disastrous things. In such circumstances, people who do not believe in the divine then resort to various “measures” [or “cuo-shi” in Chinese] to try to deal with things. But the fact that “cuo-shi” is a homophone for another term in Chinese, which means “mistaken approach,” is telling. There have been many helpful lessons left to us from history, but they are not taken seriously by Chinese people today owing to their atheistic thinking and their disbelief in the divine—both of which are the product of brainwashing by China’s Communist Party (CCP).

Truth be told, pandemics only come when people’s morals and values have turned bad and they have come to have a massive amount of karma. So if a pandemic is divinely ordained, what can be done to stop it? It would be divine will, after all. Some people do realize this and pray for protection, but it probably won’t help. That is because people are supposed to be weeded out when their moral character has turned bad and their karma has become huge. Why would the divine offer them protection at that point, then? What people should do, instead, is to repent to the divine with all due sincerity, admit to their faults, and pray for a chance to change their ways. That is the way to go, and that is the magic cure.

But a pandemic like the current Chinese Communist Virus (or “Wuhan Virus”) comes with a purpose behind it, and it has targets. It is here to weed out members of the Party and those who have sided with it. If anyone is in doubt about this, just take a look at which countries or people have been hit hardest by the virus: it is those who have become close with the CCP. Then what should people do? People should distance themselves from the CCP and stop siding with it. Behind it is the red Devil, while outwardly it looks and acts like a thug who stops at no evil. So now that the divine is starting to eradicate it, all who still stand by it shall perish. Those who doubt this can wait and see.

Any Dafa disciples who have not been diligent, or who are prone to acting in extreme ways, should immediately straighten themselves out, and sincerely study the Fa and work on themselves, for you are at great risk. True Dafa disciples have higher energy and are able to destroy karma and germs; they are emissaries of salvation in these latter days, and bring their wisdom to bear upon saving people as they share truthful information related to our practice. Also, I should mention that there are practitioners in many regions who are calling upon everyone to send righteous thoughts together to put an end to the Chinese Communist Virus (Wuhan Virus). But that is not the right idea. You are not here to change history, but rather, to save people at this most dangerous time in history, by raising awareness, persuading people to withdraw from China’s three major communist organizations, encouraging people to sincerely say the magic words,2 and so on. All of these are the best medicine possible, the best way to rescue people—when people’s morals change, things will change for the better. The CCP is in its death throes and trying to harm people by causing pandemonium in the world. Dafa disciples should not allow themselves to get ungrounded by any of this. Stick to the fundamentals, and you will be able to see the upheaval that’s taking place in the proper light.

Hongzhi Li
March 19, 2020

1 The Chinese term used here, wenyi, refers to both plagues as well as pandemics more broadly.

2 A reference to either of the two affirmations people often recite, to magical effect, in Chinese: Falun Dafa hao (which is often translated as, literally, “Falun Dafa is good!”) and Zhen, Shan, Ren hao (which translates directly as, “Honesty, Compassion, and Forbearance are excellent values.”)

And here is the link to minghui website
https://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2020/3/20/183715.html

A bunch of woo nonsense. Viruses don't care about man-made morality and religion won't protect anyone from it, even if you're Siddhartha himself.

Spirit of Light · Apr 9, 2020

Saint Frankenstein said:
A bunch of woo nonsense. Viruses don't care about man-made morality and religion won't protect anyone from it, even if you're Siddhartha himself.

I think i already Said that Falun Gong is not a religion

but you are allowed to have your på opinion

Twilight Hue · Apr 9, 2020

the soul said:
The American people will not be infected by COVID-19 according to the new scriptures published by Li Hongzhi, the master of Falun Dafa whose headquarter the Dragon Springs is located in New York. Li said the outbreak of Covid-19 is directed against the Communist Party of China. Thus only those who are close to the Communist Party of China will be infected. So even if the American people are infected, they can only be the carriers of the virus, but will never die. Therefore, ventilators and masks are unnecessary. As long as everyone practices Falun Dafa, the epidemic will be over soon.

As much as I appreciate the sentiment, I'm just going to stick with science and the medical experts. ;0)!

9-10ths_Penguin · Apr 10, 2020

the soul said:
The American people will not be infected by COVID-19 according to the new scriptures published by Li Hongzhi, the master of Falun Dafa whose headquarter the Dragon Springs is located in New York. Li said the outbreak of Covid-19 is directed against the Communist Party of China. Thus only those who are close to the Communist Party of China will be infected. So even if the American people are infected, they can only be the carriers of the virus, but will never die. Therefore, ventilators and masks are unnecessary. As long as everyone practices Falun Dafa, the epidemic will be over soon.

I think it's pretty ghoulish that you would use a tragedy like the COVID-19 crisis to shill for your religion.

Should I assume that your whole religion is as awful as you portray it as, or is this something that you did of your own initiative?

Windwalker · Apr 10, 2020

the soul said:
The American people will not be infected by COVID-19 according to the new scriptures published by Li Hongzhi, the master of Falun Dafa whose headquarter the Dragon Springs is located in New York. Li said the outbreak of Covid-19 is directed against the Communist Party of China. Thus only those who are close to the Communist Party of China will be infected. So even if the American people are infected, they can only be the carriers of the virus, but will never die. Therefore, ventilators and masks are unnecessary. As long as everyone practices Falun Dafa, the epidemic will be over soon.

You do realize the error of all of this? It's not very enlightened, to put it mildly.

Saint Frankenstein · Apr 10, 2020

Amanaki said:
I think i already Said that Falun Gong is not a religion but you are allowed to have your på opinion

It is a religion.

Saint Frankenstein · Apr 10, 2020

DavidMcCann said:
Now you know why the Chinese government bans this creepy cult!

I don't agree with the Chinese government but they may have a point here...

Spirit of Light · Apr 10, 2020

Saint Frankenstein said:
It is a religion.

No, it is not a Religion, I am my self a practitioner of Falun Gong I know it is a cultivation path and not a religion. For those who do not know Falun Gong, it may look similar to Buddhism but it is not.

Cultivation of mind and body. Yes there is teaching, but this teaching is so each individual person can understand how to become free from this physical realm, it is not about belief like it is in religion. its about inner wisdom

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