paarsurrey
Veteran Member
How does one know that fear is immune to evil or one is immune from fear, please? Please elaborate. Right, please?
Regards
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Are love and fear both good for turning to G-d?
- Thread starter paarsurrey
- Start date
Regards
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
It's something you believe in.
Messianic Israelite
Active Member
Generally, those who have love also have fear, for failing to show love. If you are married to a wife you love with all your heart, you fear hurting her by doing something absentmindedly or deliberately. However, the scriptures clearly tell us that "There is no fear in love: but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear hath punishment; and he that feareth is not made perfect in love." (1 John 4:18). Is this true? Of course. Because if you truly love your wife, you know full well that you won't do anything to hurt her. Perfect love casts out fear. Generally, when we come to Yahweh however, we fear first and this is right and you can read Deuteronomy 10:12 to prove this. Most people never get to the stage of perfect love towards Yahweh. Yahshua did.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
"Generally, those who have love also have fear, for failing to show love. If you are married to a wife. you love with all your heart, you fear hurting her by doing something absentmindedly or deliberately"
I agree with the above.
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Shad
Veteran Member
Nope.
People do not commit crimes due to this and their moral scope which is often from religion.
Depends on the laws. An individual could fear punishment for breaking an unjust law which is harmful to them and the general public. People could follow an unjust law due love of an ideology which they project on to the nation.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
paarsurrey said: ↑
People abide the Law in love of their country. Right, please?
Regards
People abide the Law in love of their country. Right, please?
In one's view people only abide by the Law out of fear of punishment. Right, please
Regards
Shad
Veteran Member
Read the rest of the post you cut out. I answered this already
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I don't think people are thinking at all about how much they love their country when they keep its laws. Some keep the laws because they are innately good decent law abiding folks by nature. Most keep the laws because they don't want to be caught and punished.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
What do you mean when you say that fear is immune to evil? Many people commit evil acts because they are afraid.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
UPDATE: Fear may or may not be equivalent to evil. Originally I equated fear to hatred but now that hate is being saved with non-violence fear is still punitive.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Fear is a flight response to a threat. It is not evil, nor is it the same thing as hatred. It is simple biology.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
Your twisting my words around. Unless hate doesn't go to heaven fear is left to evil. Even if its moral its hellishly bad. Hate and fear are not the same thing, but they ride together as a angel of hell.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I have not idea what you are talking about. You are not making any sense to me.
Fear is not a spiritual matter. It is purely physical.
You perceive a threat, and your parasympathetic nervous system kicks in, causing your adrenal gland to kick out all sorts of hormones. Your body is flooded with Adrenalin and Noradrenain. This causes various physcial reactions such as the heart and breath rate to speed up, digestion to slow or stop, etc. In other words your body is prepared to either flee or fight back. If your conscious mind interprets this as a time to flee, we call it fear. If you interpret it as a time to fight back, we call it anger. It is a basic survival instinct.
And our survival instinct is a good thing. It only becomes problematic if one of two things happens.
1. if the threat is long term, which puts our body under such stress that these hormones make us sick rather than help us.
2. Sometime the morally right thing to do is not to run away, and we need to consciously suppress our fear. This means we are still afraid, but we choose not to run away and we do the right thing anyways. This is called courage. When we lack courage, and run from moral responsibility, that is a problem. Still, it is understandable.
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
Love, fear, faith, and truth are all necessary. Love and/or fear by themselves will get us lost.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
Fear isn't evil it suffers more than anything else in hell.
Yes but this doesnt apply to LOVE and FAITH. Fighting is futile, according to me you can be passive to hell and all of hell will suffer. Problem solved.
Last edited:
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Fighting isn't always futile. It depends on the situation.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
Imo you can't fight a demon, as it is not alive. But, its weak against air and light.