No, you don't see my point at all because you're not grasping the pertinent distinction. The use of force to thwart the evil actions of others is not what is itself undesirable. That the pope has guards is not moral failing on his part. It is violence in and of itself which is undesirable. That violence is sometimes necessary is not something I have questioned in this thread.
Any action which either harms or destroys human life must have a compelling reason. E.g. thwarting an assassination. Sans compelling reason harming or taking human life is a violation of the fifth commandment.
Jesus' Great Just War
The Battle of Armageddon
Jesus looked at me and said, Souls perish in spite of My bitter Passion. I am giving them the last hope of salvation; that is, the Feast of My Mercy. If they will not adore My mercy, they will perish for all eternity. Secretary of My mercy, write, tell souls about this great mercy of Mine, because the awful day, the day of My justice, is near. (Diary - Divine Mercy in My Soul, 965)
Hello Musing,
OK, I guess Jesus Himself does describe His Second Coming, Just War, The Battle of Armageddon, as ‘
because the awful day, the day of My justice, is near’. Is this similar to what you mean when you say Catholic Just war is 'undesirable'? I still would not call Jesus' Great Just War at Armageddon 'deplorable'. Doing so sounds judgmental and condemning Jesus' actions. The big thing about Jesus’ Just War, is that ‘The Sword of Christ’s mouth’, which is Jesus’ lips binding sinners to their sins, will be deployed at Armageddon. Jesus’ lips binding sinners to their sins, hurls sinners into hell. Some Catholic visionaries indicate three quarters of world population will physically die, and then, of course, be hurled into hell, upon our King Jesus Christ’s, Great Just War at Armageddon. That is an infinitely tremendous amount of violence and loss of life!
The beauty of Jesus’ Just War at Armageddon, is that once Jesus' purges the unrepentant wicked from the earth, we go into Messianic Reign, which the Blessed Mother describes as ‘The Golden Era for Mankind’. There will be Peace on Earth! Hallelujah! Israel will be set free from exile and captivity! The Blessed Mother indicates that one in ten Catholics will have the power to heal. Jesus will wipe away His Church, the Catholic Church’s every tear! Hallelujah!
So even though Jesus' Just War at Armageddon is infinitely more violence than combine loss of life lost from all the wars in human history, we Catholics, in a state of grace, anxiously await our Lord Jesus Christ’s return!
Revelation 19:11 The King of kings.
The heavens were opened, and as I looked on, a white horse appeared; its rider was called "The Faithful and True." Justice is his standard in passing judgment and in waging war. His eyes blazed like fire, and on his head were many diadems. Inscribed on his person was a name known to no one but himself. He wore a cloak that had been dipped in blood, and his name was the Word of God. The armies of heaven were behind him riding white horses and dressed in fine linen, pure and white. Out of his mouth came a sharp sword for striking down the nations. He will shepherd them with an iron rod; it is he who will tread out in the winepress the blazing wrath of God the Almighty. A name was written on the part of the cloak that covered his thigh: "King of kings and Lord of lords."...
Matthew 13:38
The weeds are the followers of the evil one and the enemy who sowed them them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the world, while the harvesters are the angels. Just as weeds are collected and burned, so will it be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will dispatch his angels to collect from his kingdom all who draw others to apostasy, and all evildoers. The angels will hurl them into the fiery furnace where they will wail and grind their teeth. Then the saints will shine like the sun in their Father's kingdom.
The Blessed Virgin Mary :
... you have to speak to the world about His great mercy and prepare the world for the Second Coming of Him who will come, not as a merciful Savior, but as a just Judge. Oh, how terrible is that day! Determined is the day of justice, the day of divine wrath. The angels tremble before it. Speak to souls about this great mercy while it is still the time for [granting] mercy. If you keep silent now, you will be answering for a great number of souls on that terrible day. ... (Diary - Divine Mercy in My Soul, 635)
Revelation 14:12
Here is what sustains the holy ones who keep God's commandments and their faith in Jesus.
I heard a voice from heaven say, 'Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on'. 'Yes,' said the Spirit, 'let them find rest from their labors, for their works accompany them.'
Then I looked and there was a white cloud, and sitting on the cloud one who looked like a son of man, with a gold crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. Another angel came out of the temple, crying out in a loud voice to the one sitting on the cloud, 'Use your sickle and reap the harvest, for the time to reap has come, because the earth's harvest is fully ripe.' So the one who was sitting on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
Then another angel came out of the temple in heaven who also had a sharp sickle. Then another angel (came) from the altar, (who) was in charge of the fire, and cried out in a loud voice to the one who had the sharp sickle, 'Use your sharp sickle and cut the clusters from the earth's vines, for its grapes are ripe.' So the angel swung his sickle over the earth and cut the earth's vintage. He threw it into the great wine press of God's fury. The wine press was trodden outside the city and blood poured out of the wine press to the height of a horse's bridle for two hundred miles.
He who refuses to pass through the door of My mercy must pass through the door of My justice... Today I heard a voice in my soul: Oh, if sinners knew My mercy, they would not perish in such great numbers. Tell sinful souls not to be afraid to approach Me; speak to them of My great mercy. (Diary - Divine Mercy in My Soul, 1146)
