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7th day of rest

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Do you have an idea why would one day be more important than the other for some people?

The resting on the Sabbath was to be sign between God and his people. As for "foreigners", they only needed to keep the Sabbath if they wanted to worship God on his mountain. (Isaiah 56:6)

New American Standard Bible
"Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD, To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD, To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath And holds fast My covenant;
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The idea of taking a vacation day or two each week is simply healthy for the mind and body. It is good that the world has taken notice and most of it has put it into action, even if some its citizens have a different day than others.


As for the 7th day, being Friday sundown to Saturday twilight, being a day of rest to observe and keep (the Shabbat), this is given specifically to the Children of Israel as an obligation. It was never intended to be a commandment to all the nations, all of humanity. If a non-Jew wants to mow his lawn on Saturday, more power to him. On the other hand, if he voluntarily wishes to refrain from work on the Shabbat, there is no harm done. But it is not an obligation for him.

Actually, it was a sign between Israel and God, but if the foreigner wants to worship God, then that is the only method he can gain access. As for worshipping the Lord Caesar Constantine and his god, then follow his decree of 321 AD and worship on the day of his sun god, Sol Invictus, and worship on the day of the sun.

New American Standard Bible
"Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD, To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD, To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath And holds fast My covenant;
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The resting on the Sabbath was to be sign between God and his people. As for "foreigners", they only needed to keep the Sabbath if they wanted to worship God on his mountain. (Isaiah 56:6)

New American Standard Bible
"Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD, To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD, To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath And holds fast My covenant;

Hm. Do you know why, though, people fuss about saturday or sunday rather than any seventh day from the time one starts working?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
The bible just says rest on the 7th day. Why are days of the week more important than the 7th time the earth rotates around the sun? I assume that was the gist long ago-based on the rise and setting of the sun. Why the problem?

Just because

Not understanding the question. Are you asking why the seventh day was more important than the seventh year?
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Why "actually"? It's both. But there are different types of rest. The rest of the sabbatical year is different from the sabbath day's rest.

After 7x7 years there was a double rest for the land of 2 years where in the extra year there was a freeing of slaves and returning of land in 'the year of Jubilee'.

There are different rests. Salvation in Jesus is a type of rest.

and after 7x70 years God said he was owed the 70 years or rest for the land and sent the Jews to Babylon 'until the land had its rest'.

Saturday is the only use of holy in Genesis, where God declared that day holy and rested from His work.

Sunday and the shift to it is a reminder of Easter and Jesus rising form the dead on Sunday
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The sabbatical year, Shmitah (שמיטה) in Hebrew, is the seventh year of the cycle of years in which we (Jews) let the land (the ground itself) of Israel rest and we do not work it. Along with that, there are certain socio-economical laws such as forgoing loans.
Yes, and I might add that according to the Genesis account of creative days, the 7th day is not said to have ended. The first 6 days ended, but not the 7th. But you're probably aware of that. And yes, you're quite right, there are different types of Sabbaths.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Hm. They rested every 7th year??

Nope not at all did people rest every
7th year....every 7th year the land laid in rest to help replenish the land the ground.

If you plant things in the same place year after year soon the soil begins to break down good for nothing...so to help the land to replenish it's self..it's good to give the land a 7th year of rest from planting anything in the land in the ground.

Leviticus 25:1-4
1--"And the Lord spake unto Moses in mount Sinai, saying,

2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the Lord.

3 Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof;

4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the Lord: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard"
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Hm. Do you know why, though, people fuss about saturday or sunday rather than any seventh day from the time one starts working?

The 7th day of creation is the basis of the Sabbath. "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the LORD bless the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

As for the hallowing of the 1st day of the week, that was by decree of Caesar Constantine in the year 321 AD to honor his sun god Sol Invictus. Constantine was the "beast with two horns like a lamb", and the worship/hollowing of the sun/dragon, was simply part of his "mark". (Revelation 13)
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The 7th day of creation is the basis of the Sabbath. "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the LORD bless the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

As for the hallowing of the 1st day of the week, that was by decree of Caesar Constantine in the year 321 AD to honor his sun god Sol Invictus. Constantine was the "beast with two horns like a lamb", and the worship/hollowing of the sun/dragon, was simply part of his "mark". (Revelation 13)

The first day of the week is relative to religion when it comes to the seventh day the earth turns rather than the seventh day marked on the, I "think" Georgian calender?
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
I don’t see that any days are more important than others. All days are as important, but is also important to rest and I think it would be good to rest every 7 th day.
But you see, the Bible isn't about what we reason is important. It is about what God says is important.

The seventh day, the Sabbath, is more to the Jews than a day of rest.

It was given just before the law was given at Sinai, it was given as a sign, an emblem, a certification of Gods relationship with them.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The 7th day of creation is the basis of the Sabbath. "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the LORD bless the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

As for the hallowing of the 1st day of the week, that was by decree of Caesar Constantine in the year 321 AD to honor his sun god Sol Invictus. Constantine was the "beast with two horns like a lamb", and the worship/hollowing of the sun/dragon, was simply part of his "mark". (Revelation 13)
Keeping sunday by Gentile Christians existed long before Constantine, it was kept because it was the day of the resurrection.

Gentiles were never tasked with keeping any particular day of the week. Any day is perfectly acceptable.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Keeping sunday by Gentile Christians existed long before Constantine, it was kept because it was the day of the resurrection.

Gentiles were never tasked with keeping any particular day of the week. Any day is perfectly acceptable.

The resurrection would be 3 days and 3 nights after entering the earth. As the burial happened just prior to the beginning/dawning of the high holy sabbath of the feast of unleavened bread, which would occur on the 15th of Nissan, which would be at the end of preparation day, the 14th of Nissan, which would be what the nations call Wednesday evening, and 3 days and 3 night later, when "now late on the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave" (Matthew 28:1), points towards your narrative being contrived. Contrived to the extent that the Roman church catechism changes the commandments to read "keep holy the day of the Lord".

King James Bible
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.

As for the nations/Gentiles, they were never tasked with keeping the commandments, but on the other hand, any "foreigners"/Gentiles, who wanted to worship the LORD were tasked with keeping God's statutes, with emphasis on the Sabbath. (Isaiah 56:6).

Isaiah 56:6 Also the sons of the foreigner Who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him, And to love the name of the LORD, to be His servants— Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant—
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The first day of the week is relative to religion when it comes to the seventh day the earth turns rather than the seventh day marked on the, I "think" Georgian calender?

The Gregorian calendar was a product of the Pontifex Maximus, Pope Gregory. Pontifex Maximus was a title taken from the pagan priests who kept the calendar and the gods, and was usurped by Julius Caesar, and passed on down to the pope by way of Constantine, who instituted the Roman Church by way of being the emperor and Pontifex Maximus. The emperors were head of the state and pagan church, and the pope is the head of their redefined church. Julius Caesar represents the 5th head of the beast of Revelation, and Constantine represents the 7th head, the beast with two horns like a lamb (Revelation 13 & 17) The pope simply represents a continuation of the "worthless shepherd " (Zechariah 11:16-17), Peter.. It is best not to have any relationship with any of them. (Revelation 19:19-20).
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The resurrection would be 3 days and 3 nights after entering the earth. As the burial happened just prior to the beginning/dawning of the high holy sabbath of the feast of unleavened bread, which would occur on the 15th of Nissan, which would be at the end of preparation day, the 14th of Nissan, which would be what the nations call Wednesday evening, and 3 days and 3 night later, when "now late on the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave" (Matthew 28:1), points towards your narrative being contrived. Contrived to the extent that the Roman church catechism changes the commandments to read "keep holy the day of the Lord".

King James Bible
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.

As for the nations/Gentiles, they were never tasked with keeping the commandments, but on the other hand, any "foreigners"/Gentiles, who wanted to worship the LORD were tasked with keeping God's statutes, with emphasis on the Sabbath. (Isaiah 56:6).

Isaiah 56:6 Also the sons of the foreigner Who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him, And to love the name of the LORD, to be His servants— Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant—
Before the new covenant, you are correct, gentiles would have had to become Jews by religion to worship God.

My narrative being contrived, not so. There are non canonical letters extant from the late 1st, early 2nd century that prove the point. Polycarp, who studied under the Apostle John, wrote a letter re the issue.

The Roman Church is responsible for much error, but not here.

Of course, you know that most of Christendom rejects your time line.

I will address it in another post in this thread.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Before the new covenant, you are correct, gentiles would have had to become Jews by religion to worship God.
Small interjection.
That is incorrect. Judaism doesn't have an agenda to convert the whole world. For gentiles, there are the seven Noahide commandments, always have been (at least since the time of Noah). There was even a section of the Temple Mount that gentiles were allowed to go to in order to worship God. They could even send in sacrifices to be sacrificed in the Temple (although, unlike Jews, they were allowed to build external altars and sacrifice whenever they felt like it).
Carry on. :)
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Small interjection.
That is incorrect. Judaism doesn't have an agenda to convert the whole world. For gentiles, there are the seven Noahide commandments, always have been (at least since the time of Noah). There was even a section of the Temple Mount that gentiles were allowed to go to in order to worship God. They could even send in sacrifices to be sacrificed in the Temple (although, unlike Jews, they were allowed to build external altars and sacrifice whenever they felt like it).
Carry on. :)
Technically we can still make sacrifices. I'm saddened that so many people think that Judaism stipulates one must convert to be regarded by G-d. How sad.
 
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