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Do You All Want the End of Humanity?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I didn’t call you a liar. I think you should read more carefully what I said.



I wouldn’t do so, and I don’t have any reason to believe the Jews did so. But maybe you would have done so in the same situation, because that idea seems to come purely from your mind, not from the scriptures.



He put garrisons in Edom; throughout all Edom put he garrisons, and all the Edomites became servants to David. Yahweh gave victory to David wherever he went.
2 Samuel 8:14

That says, “Edomites became servants”, it does not say they were “forced to be slaves”. I have not enough reason to think they were slaves.


In post #278 you wrote

"Sorry, if you think so, you have not read, or you have not understood, or you are just lying. In any case, that argument makes you look bad."

You have 3 options
The first implies that you think i am a liar.
The second implies that i am stupid
The third directly accused me of lying

If this is the calibre of honesty can expect from you then we are done
 

1213

Well-Known Member
In post #278 you wrote

"Sorry, if you think so, you have not read, or you have not understood, or you are just lying. In any case, that argument makes you look bad."

You have 3 options
The first implies that you think i am a liar.
The second implies that i am stupid
The third directly accused me of lying

If this is the calibre of honesty can expect from you then we are done

Is there some other option? If you can show it, I can change my mind, but by what I see, there is only those options.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Is there some other option? If you can show it, I can change my mind, but by what I see, there is only those options.

And 2 of which called me a lair which you refused to apologise for and denied saying

And yes there is the option that i have read the bible (3 actually) and i know what they say. That you ignore that fact and fill in with pink fluffy fairy stories so suite your ego is not my problem
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Do any Rabbinic Jews actually care about the Messiah's coming or is it all some joke to mock Christians about?
I very much look forward to the coming of the Messiah. I don't know when he will come. I don't see any signs that his coming is imminent.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
I very much look forward to the coming of the Messiah. I don't know when he will come. I don't see any signs that his coming is imminent.
We can prove that is me by name, and knowledge; yet people have completely confused their own doctrine as prophesied. :oops:

Like I've literally known since childhood I'm sent from Heaven with my name in the world's religious texts, to help try create world peace among the religions; yet due to that people won't listen, the Great Tribulation happens first, and then after those who've understood the doctrine, will be here in the Time to Come.

It's a shame Rabbinic Jews don't really want the Messiah, else they'd already know the prophecy says my name; as they'd know that Yeshua Elohim is in Isaiah 52:10, and King Zion Elohim is in Isaiah 52:7, Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12.

Yet since most people reject that King David was Yehoshua (Psalms 89:19-21 = Isaiah 52:13-14 - Marred = Anointed), they also then reject the "2nd coming" as Isaiah 28:11-13 says in the Parable of the Fig (Isaiah 28:4), as they're not smart enough to understand the texts exegetically.

It is possible for King Zion to explain the Good News (Isaiah 40:9, Isaiah 41:27, Isaiah 52:7), and create world peace; yet when no Rabbinic Jews accept the Messianic prophecies currently, it makes it very hard to make changes to religious understanding, when most people are Antichrist in some way down here.

As it is written: when Israel lift up their Messiah as a Banner; it will re-establish our people by them raising him up (Isaiah 5:26, Isaiah 13:2-3, Isaiah 49:22, Isaiah 62:10-11)...

It only takes a few real Jews fulfilling the Sefer of Zerubbabel, and declaring they've found the Messiah ("The Light of Israel") arguing with Christians (Armilus)..

Yet if none recognize prophecy, and think I'm just speaking in riddles, and parables, sadly this is already prophesied (Ezekiel 20:49) as the Purge takes place.

After the Great Tribulation the Source of reality will resurrect the enlightened saints, and there will be a new world; so either way I'm Messiah according to religion globally, and what God spoke to me when young...

Really this is to see if people want to choose to accept their own prophecies globally, before the Great Tribulation (Revelation 3:18-19) or they've already been destined to get deleted from reality.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
We can prove that is me by name, and knowledge; yet people have completely confused their own doctrine as prophesied. :oops:

Like I've literally known since childhood I'm sent from Heaven with my name in the world's religious texts, to help try create world peace among the religions; yet due to that people won't listen, the Great Tribulation happens first, and then after those who've understood the doctrine, will be here in the Time to Come.

It's a shame Rabbinic Jews don't really want the Messiah, else they'd already know the prophecy says my name; as they'd know that Yeshua Elohim is in Isaiah 52:10, and King Zion Elohim is in Isaiah 52:7, Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12.

Yet since most people reject that King David was Yehoshua (Psalms 89:19-21 = Isaiah 52:13-14 - Marred = Anointed), they also then reject the "2nd coming" as Isaiah 28:11-13 says in the Parable of the Fig (Isaiah 28:4), as they're not smart enough to understand the texts exegetically.

It is possible for King Zion to explain the Good News (Isaiah 40:9, Isaiah 41:27, Isaiah 52:7), and create world peace; yet when no Rabbinic Jews accept the Messianic prophecies currently, it makes it very hard to make changes to religious understanding, when most people are Antichrist in some way down here.

As it is written: when Israel lift up their Messiah as a Banner; it will re-establish our people by them raising him up (Isaiah 5:26, Isaiah 13:2-3, Isaiah 49:22, Isaiah 62:10-11)...

It only takes a few real Jews fulfilling the Sefer of Zerubbabel, and declaring they've found the Messiah ("The Light of Israel") arguing with Christians (Armilus)..

Yet if none recognize prophecy, and think I'm just speaking in riddles, and parables, sadly this is already prophesied (Ezekiel 20:49) as the Purge takes place.

After the Great Tribulation the Source of reality will resurrect the enlightened saints, and there will be a new world; so either way I'm Messiah according to religion globally, and what God spoke to me when young...

Really this is to see if people want to choose to accept their own prophecies globally, before the Great Tribulation (Revelation 3:18-19) or they've already been destined to get deleted from reality.

In my opinion. :innocent:

I've known a couple of people in my life who have claimed to be the Messiah. I've known even more people who claim to have some kind of special knowledge which they've wanted to share. Throughout my life, I've been relatively open-minded, particularly when it comes to those offering alternative viewpoints and explanations to the human condition and our overall reality. I take it into consideration, but I would not discount other possibilities either.

One of the guys I knew who claimed to be the Messiah used to hang around the college campus when I was a student. He was actually very much into JFK conspiracy theories, and he also had this idea that all money in society should be eliminated. He also believed that he was the Messiah. He did manage to offend a lot of people, although I didn't really think of him as a bad sort. He seemed to be decent to a large extent, even if he had obviously gone through a lot of difficulty in life and was clearly troubled on multiple levels. I had run into him quite a number of times on the streets and in other situations. He also wrote several letters to the editor at the local paper, all of which advocated the same thing: The government should provide marijuana free of charge for anyone who asks. So, if nothing else, that Messiah was pretty cool.

Another guy I knew was probably even more notorious here locally. He was more confrontational and aggressive, and he used to protest and call out selected Christian churches which he considered to be hypocritical, apostates, or just not practicing what they're preaching. Some local clergy considered him to be a menace, while others thought he was the Devil. He was loud, nasty, and foul-mouthed. He offended a lot of people and was arrested multiple times. On the other hand, there were quite a few people who dug what he had to say. There were even a few local atheists who thought he was kind of cool. They didn't believe he was the Messiah, but they liked the idea that he was pissing off so many local churches. He used to get into arguments with another guy who claimed to be a prophet of Jesus Christ. But they were both rather similar in that they had somewhat conspiratorial anti-government views. (For a few years, I was a volunteer at the local cable access station, so that's how I ran into a lot of these people.)

Can there be more than one Messiah at the same time? How can anyone really know for sure?

On the other hand, I don't see any benefit in going out of one's way to reject such a claim or to tell someone that they're "full of it" or "crazy," as if one feels the need to take a firm stance on the matter. I don't make any judgments. I just take it under advisement and wait to see what happens. Until then, I'll just go with the flow.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Can there be more than one Messiah at the same time? How can anyone really know for sure?
The Messiah according to the religious texts has to fulfil certain criteria, and have certain knowledge.

Like someone claiming to be a return of Yeshua, and not knowing the Gospel of John sounds nothing like what we find in the Synoptic Gospels, clearly isn't the same person.

There is only one Messiah, it means the king of Israel; which is the spiritual king manifest from the Source of reality here on earth.

Through understanding prophecy properly, it is self evidential:

King David prophesied he would be the person who suffered at the hands of his own people in the Psalms:

In Psalms 89:19-21 David is chosen in vision by God to be the Messiah, and do a Mighty Task...

In Isaiah 52:13-14 we see David in Psalms 89:19-21 is paraphrased in multiple places, the word Marred should be translated Anointed in Hebrew.

In Isaiah 52:10 we are told the Spirit of Salvation (Yeshua Elohim) is placed into the vessel of 'my servant' king David.

In Isaiah 52:7 is where the Messiah returns with a new name i.e. King Zion Elohim...

This is repeated in Revelation 3:12, with the name of the City of God is 'Zion', the Archangel who acts as a 'Pillar' for God is 'Sandalphon', and the New Name of Christ is 'Sananda'.

Sananda is an old name though really, it comes from the shortening of the Sanskrit from the Son of Lord Brahma (Yahavah) - Sanandana.

In Revelation 19:12 it tells us Christ has a new name, that only he knows; I've known since 4-5 years old I was sent from Heaven, and my name Zanda was in the world's religions, here are a few:
In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
This is why I almost never reply to you.
So the Messiah comes with clear proofs before the end of humanity, and your best answer is you don't need to listen. :oops:

Do not pretend to be Jewish, if you can't even defend your own beliefs; as you clearly don't accept the 12th principle: if the Messiah explains in clear details a way to help prevent the end of humanity, and you personally choose to murder everyone, as you can't be bothered to discuss it, that in no way follows Judaism. :eek:

If we can prove me as Messiah (Spiritual King from Heaven) by clear exegesis globally, then spiritually based on all religions, we should be helping fix humanity, and so far this forum has chosen to sentence mankind to death, whilst thinking it is funny to mock the whole thing, whilst people are dying around us. :(

Maybe we should actually advertise the forum, and get some real people here, who actually care about people; as you make me sick by your lack of decorum, as if all religion is a joke, as you can't be bothered to assess it - whilst spending most of your time discussing it. :confused:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
The Messiah will not be a Spiritual King, but a very earthly King of Israel.
Lets debate this based on scriptures, as currently the lack of knowledge is limiting us.

The Messiah is both Spiritual, and earthly King, bringing a global theocracy to earth.

The Messiah as fulfilment of many religious texts globally as One (Zechariah 14:9, Revelation 19:12, Revelation 3:12), is the prophetic fulfilment of the New Age; how this takes place does depend on people on religious forums being realistic with the fate of humanity.
To put it bluntly, you simply do not fulfill the prophecies.
To put it bluntly I was shown before I was 3 years old in repeated visions, that the Great Tribulation will happen in my life time.

At 15 the Source of reality spoke to me, explaining global eschatology, and asking me to come online after reading the religions, to try to create world peace as prophesied...

Though it is prophesied this won't succeed, and people will ignore the warnings (Isaiah 28:11-13), the Judgement Day Fire comes at Armageddon as the plague is upon humanity (Revelation 16:2-11).

At 21 years old before reading the Bible, on my own sacred Taoist pilgrimage, I fulfilled Revelation 10 & 5, and then at the age of 24 I read about these things I'd already done in the Bible...

There were advanced contexts explained to me about the 'Snare' by Yeshua (Isaiah 8:11-22, Isaiah 28), as the Thunders uttered their voice as the texts says.

Since 26 years old I've been explaining religion as prophesied on our site, Religious Forums, and to the Seventh Beggar on Paltalk: who is meant to recognize the Messiah according to Rabbi Nachman - yet people are just really slow to catch up.
You are one of many people falsely claiming the title of Messiah. We are used to these, and we reject every one.
So without evidence, with the fate of humanity resting in your decision, you've decided most of the world's religions are wrong, as you know best automatically. :oops:

Also in your claim, since I know your argument, you normally think Yehoshua, i.e King David isn't the Messiah... Yet we can clearly show evidence, that we are by definition of what the texts stipulates.

Currently we have the 1st Bowl of Revelation 16:2, where there will be mass deaths by a plague, and I for one have no fear, as God sent me with the New Name of Christ as prophesied before it.

Where it would then be stupid to ignore all religions globally, plus the Source of reality explaining advanced concepts to me in detail as a child, before reading the texts; that we can all then objectively show.

The idea you think I need your approval before Revelation takes place is silly on your part: you don't choose the Messiah, the Source of reality gets to choose if to keep you for the Messianic age by your acknowledgment of its Way (Dharma/Dao) - The Messiah is here as a final warning to mankind, like Noah, Lot, Jonah, Yeshua...

In other words before the Destruction; this is just to test, to see if people can be Godly by their interactions.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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