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If the Jews didn't kill or "crucify him, would our sins still be forgiven today? I thought Jesus died for our sins, what if the crucifiction didn't happen?Moon Woman said:The Jews of course wanted to kill him because He claimed to be the Son of God, the worst form of heresy for them.
tlcmel said:If the Jews didn't kill or "crucify him, would our sins still be forgiven today? I thought Jesus died for our sins, what if the crucifiction didn't happen?
tlcmel said:If the Jews didn't kill or "crucify him, would our sins still be forgiven today? I thought Jesus died for our sins, what if the crucifiction didn't happen?
Sunstone said:Yes, but what reason did people have to crucify him? Surely, you're not suggesting that the Jews wanted him crucified so he could die for our sins?
Sure it does, I was questioning the reasoning in regards to Jesus's crucifiction based on what mainstream Christianity believes and was just anticipating your view on it, that's all. Your right, it is late, and my eyes are starting to get heavy.Moon Woman said:It may just be that it's really late here, but I don't see what any of this has to do with Phil's questions.
Moon Woman said:Good grief, nobody reads posts anymore do they.
tlcmel said:If the Jews didn't kill or "crucify him, would our sins still be forgiven today? I thought Jesus died for our sins, what if the crucifiction didn't happen?
Ultimately the result was a sacrifice for our sins right?comprehend said:well, yeah. but the romans only did it because the Jewish leaders asked for it. So if you wanted to ask why Jesus was cricified by the romans, the answer would be because the Jewish leaders wanted it done. Then you would ask, well why did the Jewish leaders want it done... and we would get back to looking at the reasons the Jews had.
tlcmel said:Ultimately the result was a sacrifice for our sins right?
What was the motivation of justifying Christ's death for our sins?comprehend said:Yes (I believe) but I thought sunstone was asking what the motivation was of those who killed him, not the motivation of Him who sent Him.
tlcmel said:Ultimately the result was a sacrifice for our sins right?
tlcmel said:Ultimately the result was a sacrifice for our sins right?
tlcmel said:What was the motivation of justifying Christ's death for our sins?
comprehend said:Yes (I believe) but I thought sunstone was asking what the motivation was of those who killed him, not the motivation of Him who sent Him.
comprehend said:Yes (I believe) but I thought sunstone was asking what the motivation was of those who killed him, not the motivation of Him who sent Him.
If he paid for them on the cross, then what would it be like today if the crucifiction didn't happen? How would our sins be forgiven?comprehend said:ps. if it makes any difference, LDS believe that he actually suffered for our sins in the garden of Gethsemane and paid for them on the cross.