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Do You All Want the End of Humanity?

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
In your opinion and in regards to the second coming, what did Jesus mean with this and were he lying?:

Matthew 24:29-35
That is the Parable of the Fig (Matthew 24:32-35, Mark 13:28-31, Luke 21:29-33), it is a citation of the 2nd coming timeline of Isaiah 28:4... It wasn't in Yeshua's timeline, if that is what you thought it meant.

Read Isaiah 28, the Messiah comes speaking a different language (Isaiah 28:11-13), explaining the Bed of Adultery (Isaiah 28:9-19 + 20-21), and people don't realize it is before the Great Tribulation (Isaiah 28:22, Revelation 2:22).

Thus the Messiah comes as a thief before Armageddon (Revelation 16:6, Revelation 3:3), and tries to educate the Churches; looking for the Wise, and not the Foolish in Matthew 25:1-13.

Luke 17:20-37 presents the clearest timeline, the Messiah comes on Lightning on the Clouds (Internet - Luke 17:24), is rejected (Luke 17:25), and then is understood before the Day of Judgement (Luke 17:30); where there shall be a Fire that cleanses humanity, now personally I'd like that to be the internet with wisdom...

The prophecies already suggests that if people will not listen; then God will just remove them with Holy Fire from the sky, at the Final Battle between Israel Vs Iran.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
My father's side are Jewish by genealogy; so it is part of our nature.

The religions are awaiting their Messiah; that is what we can show through exegesis is me...

If the Messiah is accepted on here, we can create world peace; if not mankind will destroy its self as already prophesied, and then the Source of reality will keep the enlightened saints.

Like Islam, Judaism, Christianity fight over my identity, people spend ages discussing Christ, and I'm sitting here trying to explain it. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
love is not unique to a religion. its universal. this, and only this, will create oneness.

"friendship is two bodies being of one mind" mencius, like two beasts of burden yoked together with compassion. this is what the cross symbolizes, creation through love. its opposite is hate, division, destruction, chaos.


this is why jesus mentions the two greatest commandments being one, because love of other as self is unconditional, undifferentiated. god centric, or love centric
 

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
That reminds me of Isaac Asimov's Gaia in the Foundation series.

Yes.

I have seen the idea in many forms.

From all reports the DMT experience indicates that there is a fundamentally mystic bent in our brains. It is hard to otherwise explain the consistency of the type of experiences reported.

A mass hallucination....distributed in space and time ? Doesn’t sound likely does it ?
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
My father's side are Jewish by genealogy; so it is part of our nature.

The religions are awaiting their Messiah; that is what we can show through exegesis is me...

If the Messiah is accepted on here, we can create world peace; if not mankind will destroy its self as already prophesied, and then the Source of reality will keep the enlightened saints.

Like Islam, Judaism, Christianity fight over my identity, people spend ages discussing Christ, and I'm sitting here trying to explain it. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:

But you aren't the first? Not that I have been inclined to do such research, but I think many have claimed such before.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Yeah mate, that's called being Christian or Messianic. That's not Judaism.
See this is where Rabbinic Judaism is being really dumb: Christianity is Antichrist teachings on purpose (John, Paul, and Simon) were made up by the Pharisees (Ezekiel 22:3).

The Ebionites accepted Yeshua, were Jewish, and didn't have a vampirism cult mentality.

The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, James, Jude, Revelation stand against Christianity, and the Tanakh prophesied all of this.

Judaism by definition 'are those who wait for Yeshua' in (Genesis 49:10 => Genesis 49:18), the Song of Moses is 'the Lord will become Yeshua' (Exodus 15:2, Psalms 118, Isaiah 12:2), the Song of the Lamb is the 'Lord became our Salvation', and yet Yehudaism rejects the prophecies about Yehoshua.

Literally the whole religion was about Moses prophetically changing his friend Hosea (Savoir) to Yehoshua (Lord Saves), as he shall lead his people into the promised land (Exodus 23:20-23), and when what was prophesied came to pass, the Babylonian Rabbi made our people reject it all.

This is clearly stated by Moses in advanced in Deuteronomy 32:15-22, that the Fire will remove all the Fake Jews; as the return of King David/Yehoshua/Zion, this appeal is to try to not have you destroyed as prophesied, yet you don't help yourselves.

A Messianic, Mormon, JW, etc, all build on the bad Pharisaic foundations, and therefore are all Antichrist teachings by definition; Yeshua was against the murder of prophets as atoning sacrifices (Matthew 23:27-38, Mark 7:1-13).

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
this is why jesus mentions the two greatest commandments being one, because love of other as self is unconditional, undifferentiated. god centric, or love centric
Yeshua taught to hate the 'Self' (Luke 14:26), as it can become a materialistic idol (Matthew 6:24); unconditionally love the Source of reality, and then reflect this love with all (Matthew 22:37-40).

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
But you aren't the first? Not that I have been inclined to do such research, but I think many have claimed such before.
Only through study can we confirm a hypothesis...

There have been other claimants as Messiah; yet their evidence is very poor, we need someone smart enough to confirm the evidence, as there is overwhelming across many of the world's religions as one (Revelation 19:12).
In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Yeshua taught to hate the 'Self' (Luke 14:26), as it can become a materialistic idol (Matthew 6:24); unconditionally love the Source of reality, and then reflect this love with all (Matthew 22:37-40).

In my opinion.
:innocent:

you cannot serve two masters


unconditional love doesn't make a difference between self and other as self. you cannot hate self and love all. there is no room for hate when you love with all your being


you cannot serve love and hate
 
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Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
As the 2nd coming of Christ, I honestly thought people would be interested to understand how prophecy is fulfilled, and how the world had already been deceived; instead I currently feel no one wants to know, with no options left to prevent the end of humanity...

So why do you want everyone dead?

Why do you personally not care to study any of this for the sake of everyone's survival?

Why do I feel like a one horse show, when I'm meant to be the showman?

Do any Rabbinic Jews actually care about the Messiah's coming or is it all some joke to mock Christians about?

Do any people who follow the Quran or Baha'i accept you're meant to be waiting for the one to come, who opens up the books?

Please explain why people are so irreligious, as honestly I don't understand it; other than we're down near Hell awaiting Judgement Day, and we're all demons down here, as the religious texts stated?

In my opinion. :innocent:

I don't want everyone dead (but I do have struggles with depression). But it does seem like most of the atheists, and some of the secular Jews don't care if everyone dies, so long as they're "right." Hey guys, if people have to die for you to be right, what you are doing is wrong.

But I personally believe in unity mysticism, meaning everything that I experience is a reflection of my internal state. This isn't so much control as perception, we tend to see the world that matches how we feel. That is, if I'm at a positive state, stuff like real love and peace comes to pass. If I'm depressed, people become self-destructive and secular. If I'm trying to make myself be happy but actually in a weird mood, everyone uses mushrooms or something. What we perceive isn't real, but colored by our hopes and fears.
 
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dfnj

Well-Known Member
As the 2nd coming of Christ, I honestly thought people would be interested to understand how prophecy is fulfilled, and how the world had already been deceived; instead I currently feel no one wants to know, with no options left to prevent the end of humanity...
So why do you want everyone dead?
Why do you personally not care to study any of this for the sake of everyone's survival?
Why do I feel like a one horse show, when I'm meant to be the showman?
Do any Rabbinic Jews actually care about the Messiah's coming or is it all some joke to mock Christians about?
Do any people who follow the Quran or Baha'i accept you're meant to be waiting for the one to come, who opens up the books?
Please explain why people are so irreligious, as honestly I don't understand it; other than we're down near Hell awaiting Judgement Day, and we're all demons down here, as the religious texts stated?

This is a great set of questions. I had a friend who was prepping for years. He was convinced Y2K was going to be the end. He kept telling me I should be prepping. He really thought the second coming of Jesus was about to happen in his lifetime. He died of old age about 10 years ago. My feeling anyone reading this post will be long dead and gone before the second coming of Christ. I got this T-Shirt in his honor:

I survived the end of the world again shirt | Zazzle.com

The answers to the rest of your questions could come from the following insights by Friedrich Nietzsche. He said Christianity was born in response to Roman oppression. It took hold in the minds of timid slaves who did not have the courage or strength to get hold of what they really wanted. The slaves could not admit to their own failings. So they clung to a philosophy that made virtue of cowardice. Everything the Christians wanted and wished they had in their lives for fulfillment was what was considered to be a sin. A position in the world, prestige, sex, intellectual mastery, personal wealth were too difficult or beyond their reach. The Christian slaves created a hypocritical creed denouncing what they wanted, too weak to fight for, while praising what they did not want, but did have in abundance, as being worth having. So in the Christian value system sexlessness turned into 'purity', weakness became "goodness," submission to authority became "obedience," and in Nietzsche's words, "not-being-able-take-revenge" turned into "forgiveness."

I think people who think the end of the World is nigh and see "the signs" everywhere are in line with Nietzsche's critique. People who do not have the strength to get what they really want or are not capable of defending themselves in the World come to the conclusion the World is not a fit place for anyone. They declare the end is nigh as their only way of fighting back against all the injustices and suffering they are having. People who are sick of being judged lash out and claim God will judge you.

There's a great spiritual philosophy idea that we choose how we experience the World. If you are negative you will only see negative. If you are positive you will only see positive. I think for many people their own physical and mental well being determines how they experience the World. If someone is sad they see the World as being sad along with every other emotion. So now you have to ask yourself how many people are happy, content, and see World perfect as it is as opposed to the end-of-the-World. No many people strong enough spiritually not to be thinking the end of the World is near. Not many people are happy. I think happiness could be a quality measure for a religion or belief system.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
you cannot serve two masters

I think a religion based on slavery is ill-conceived. I don't want to serve any master. I find the word "master" to be extremely offensive. You can't have a "master" without having a "slave". Sorry if I am too sensitive about this but monarchy is a form of government and should have nothing to do with religion. I just have the conviction that our omnipotent God of unconditional love would be slightly more egalitarian in nature than the sadistic-masochistic relationship that comes with "master" and "slave".
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I think a religion based on slavery is ill-conceived. I don't want to serve any master. I find the word "master" to be extremely offensive. You can't have a "master" without having a "slave". Sorry if I am too sensitive about this but monarchy is a form of government and should have nothing to do with religion. I just have the conviction that our omnipotent God of unconditional love would be slightly more egalitarian in nature than the sadistic-masochistic relationship that comes with "master" and "slave".



there is basically two types of service: 1. service to self, or 2. service to all as self. but love, the law of one, will be served friend.

everyone is serving someone.

the only thing that keeps me going is to know, i will see them again. but will i remember?





spooky action at a distance


 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Not really, both sides are the problem and while they each kill the other that is the way it will stay.

If it were one sided then there would be no argument, but hyping one side while denying their atrosities is rather a weak argument when there is overwhelming evidence so show those atrosities exist

As the 2nd coming of Christ, I honestly thought people would be interested to understand how prophecy is fulfilled, and how the world had already been deceived; instead I currently feel no one wants to know, with no options left to prevent the end of humanity...

So why do you want everyone dead?

Why do you personally not care to study any of this for the sake of everyone's survival?

Why do I feel like a one horse show, when I'm meant to be the showman?


If JC existed as described in the bible (no evidence) and if JC was son of a god (no evidence) and if any of the biblical prophecies could be shown to be valid (no evidence) it would perhaps mean something different... But the number of times the prophecy has been claimed to be "next week" and the number of times we are still here explains why so many intelligent people are not religious

As to imposing your own fear on humanity, wow, just wow.


Please explain why people are so irreligious, as honestly I don't understand it; other than we're down near Hell awaiting Judgement Day, and we're all demons down here, as the religious texts stated?

See above, add, religion is failing, some of which is due to the fear mongering and irrelevant threats bandied about by some religion's.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
As the 2nd coming of Christ, I honestly thought people would be interested to understand how prophecy is fulfilled, and how the world had already been deceived; instead I currently feel no one wants to know, with no options left to prevent the end of humanity...

I think plenty of people want to know, but as you say, the world has already been deceived. There are a lot of deceivers out there. That doesn't mean you're one of them, but honestly, how is anyone supposed to really know for sure? It's a fair question.

So why do you want everyone dead?

Personally, I don't want that. I have no plans to kill anyone, and I certainly wouldn't be able to kill everyone even if I wanted to.

If someone else has plans to kill every human on the planet, then that's on them, and it has nothing to do with me. I don't see that there's much I could do to stop it, just like I can't stop the coronavirus.

Why do you personally not care to study any of this for the sake of everyone's survival?

Study what? The Bible? Lots of people study the Bible, and there have been a wide variety of interpretations. Most religions have some kind of "end of the world" prophecy, in one form or another, although most of them enjoin their flocks to keep their own nose clean, to live a decent life, to put their faith in God.

They're told that they can not know when the Final Judgment comes, but as long as they live a righteous life, they will have a place in the Kingdom of God. Whether that's true or not is anyone's guess, but either way, it seems clear that there are more than a few people studying it.

Why do I feel like a one horse show, when I'm meant to be the showman?

I don't see you as a showman. I know that some people around here have razzed you and singled you out, but I don't think they speak for the majority. But I think you might have expected some of that, considering that you're claiming to be the Messiah.

Do any Rabbinic Jews actually care about the Messiah's coming or is it all some joke to mock Christians about?

I don't know the answer to this question. I never truly understood why it was necessary for God to send a "Messiah" at all, at least in the context of the idea that God is all-powerful and all-knowing.

Do any people who follow the Quran or Baha'i accept you're meant to be waiting for the one to come, who opens up the books?

I think most people of most beliefs just live their lives, expecting that someday they will die and be judged. Whether they will actually see the Messiah or Judgment Day within their own lifetime, I don't think anyone really knows that and probably can't really plan for it - not like they might plan for their own death, which is far more probable.

Please explain why people are so irreligious, as honestly I don't understand it; other than we're down near Hell awaiting Judgement Day, and we're all demons down here, as the religious texts stated?

Because religion has largely failed to deliver a coherent, consistent message.

Or it could be a design flaw within humanity itself. Maybe God is asking too much of humans, given our biological makeup and physical limitations which have been imposed upon us.

Looking at it from that standpoint, if there really is a supreme being called "God" who is trying His hand at creating sentient beings like humans, there might be a certain logic to wiping out this version of humanity and upgrading to "Humanity 2.0" (as @sun rise often calls it).

It would seem that, if one actually believes this, then the end of the world isn't really the total end. I'm not going to shed any tears for the end of human civilization and the current world system as we know it today.

Perhaps in the long run, a new species will rule the Earth which will make humans of today look like neanderthals. Maybe it'll be much better in the long run for all concerned.

Should I be worried about that? Is there some reason I should not want that to happen?
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
there is basically two types of service: 1. service to self, or 2. service to all as self. but love, the law of one, will be served friend.
everyone is serving someone.
the only thing that keeps me going is to know, i will see them again. but will i remember?
spooky action at a distance

I love those two songs. Adele's voice is like eating vanilla ice cream.

In the move First Knight there's a great scene where Maligant explains why is an evil tyrant. He lashes out at King Arthur's laws and being tyrannical. He then proclaims, "Men don't want fellowship. Men want leadership!"


I do not accept this bend-the-knee mentality. I serve no one except by choice.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I think plenty of people want to know, but as you say, the world has already been deceived. There are a lot of deceivers out there. That doesn't mean you're one of them, but honestly, how is anyone supposed to really know for sure? It's a fair question.

I agree. Anyone who thinks someone else is being deceived is being deceived themselves. Absolute authority comes from within. I think society works best when we all assume each of us is solely responsible for our actions. The Satan-made-me-do-it defense for crimes no longer works. This is why secular law is so popular or more popular than religious law.
 
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