Is there any evidence?

PruePhillip said:

who would come as REDEEMER, ie pay the price for the people's sins.

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This is Antichrist teachings, Yeshua warns those who think they get inheritance from his death in the Parable of the Wicked Husbandmen (Matthew 21:33-46, Mark 12:1-12, and Luke 20:9-19) are to be removed at Judgement Day.

PruePhillip said:

But Zechariah shows that their king, when He comes, is the same
lowly man they crucified thousands of years earlier.

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Zechariah 11 is the conclusion of the Divorce Decree (Isaiah 50:1): the Abrahamic (Zechariah 11:10) & Sinai (Zechariah 11:13) covenants nullified when they paid 30 pieces of silver for their Messiah's head.

It sounds like you're listening to the Pharisees (John, Paul, and Simon) who created Christianity contrary to the true Followers of the Way (Ebionites).

PruePhillip said:

The second is KING of the Jews.

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The 2nd coming is as a Thief at the Midnight Hour (Matthew 25:1-13, Revelation 16:15-16, Revelation 3:3) to explain how to see before the Great Tribulation, and Judgement Day (Revelation 3:18).

Then after in the Resurrection of the Dead which makes it the 3rd coming, the Messiah is then appointed as King over a new world - Lamb's Book of Life is guest list only.

The 1st coming was about laying a Snare (Isaiah 8:11-22), the 2nd is about testing the Snare (Isaiah 28) and removing the wicked, the 3rd is about the Good News of the Messianic Age, and the coronation as King.

PruePhillip said:

The Jews of Israel did not want a Redeemer but the king.

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This is a made up lie after the event, Zechariah 11:11 explains many of the poor accepted him as Messiah, the Leaders of the people rejected him, and put him to death, divorcing Israel in the process; so afterwards they made up Christianity, and lied to the whole world to cover up their removal as God's people (which is what the Quran explains).

In my opinion.

WhyIsThatSo said:

"hate" is not the opposite of "love".

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Hate is a negative reflection with something we dislike; love is a positive reflection with something we like.

The energy can literally be reversed; which is why in relationships it gets so complicated when we fall out, as the energy can be reversed so quickly.

In my opinion.

wizanda said:

This is Antichrist teachings, Yeshua warns those who think they get inheritance from his death in the Parable of the Wicked Husbandmen (Matthew 21:33-46, Mark 12:1-12, and Luke 20:9-19) are to be removed at Judgement Day.

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Quote - who would come as REDEEMER, ie pay the price for the people's sins.

Job said, I know that my redeemer lives and he shall stand on the earth in the latter days.
Redeemer - one who pays the price we won't or cannot pay.
This same Redeemer is mentioned by both David and Isaiah - the one who suffers and
dies, and lives again to see the people ransomed.
It certainly isn't antichrist.

wizanda said:

Hate is a negative reflection with something we dislike; love is a positive reflection with something we like.

The energy can literally be reversed; which is why in relationships it gets so complicated when we fall out, as the energy can be reversed so quickly.

In my opinion.

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There is no need to Hate the one we are in relationship with. Just accept the situation as it is and it will soon pass to the next moment. Then soon things start to calm down, of course if the fault lay within us in a relationship then it is we who much change.

PruePhillip said:

Job said, I know that my redeemer lives and he shall stand on the earth in the latter days.
Redeemer - one who pays the price we won't or cannot pay.
This same Redeemer is mentioned by both David and Isaiah - the one who suffers and
dies, and lives again to see the people ransomed.

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Job 19:25 was speaking about the Lord of Creation being his Saviour, without payment or price (Isaiah 52:3); no one can pay the Lord, as it creates everything anyway (Psalms 49:7).

PruePhillip said:

It certainly isn't antichrist.

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It depends on reading the contexts properly, Isaiah 53 is very specific; it is the wisdom of Christ that gains salvation (Isaiah 53:11), and by this knowledge people are saved (Matthew 7:24-27).

Thus Vampires sign in the Blood of Christ (Revelation 16:6), because of failing to read the small print; enlightened saints study the wisdoms of Christ (Revelation 14:4-5).

Think missing the context that Yeshua came to set a Snare to remove the wicked in Isaiah 8:11-22; which is then removed at the 2nd coming, with the Parable of the Fig (Isaiah 28:4), and Bed of Adultery (Isaiah 28:9-19 - Rumour to Rumour)...

The Bible wasn't about giving out salvation, that was already granted; it was always about removing the wicked, and then an Age of Godliness after.

In my opinion.

wizanda said:

Job 19:25 was speaking about the Lord of Creation being his Saviour, without payment or price (Isaiah 52:3); no one can pay the Lord, as it creates everything anyway (Psalms 49:7).

It depends on reading the contexts properly, Isaiah 53 is very specific; it is the wisdom of Christ that gains salvation (Isaiah 53:11), and by this knowledge people are saved (Matthew 7:24-27).

Thus Vampires sign in the Blood of Christ (Revelation 16:6), because of failing to read the small print; enlightened saints study the wisdoms of Christ (Revelation 14:4-5).

Think missing the context that Yeshua came to set a Snare to remove the wicked in Isaiah 8:11-22; which is then removed at the 2nd coming, with the Parable of the Fig (Isaiah 28:4), and Bed of Adultery (Isaiah 28:9-19 - Rumour to Rumour)...

The Bible wasn't about giving out salvation, that was already granted; it was always about removing the wicked, and then an Age of Godliness after.

In my opinion.

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I parsed the sentence, "I know that my Redeemer lives, and he shall stand on the earth in the latter day."

I… not someone else, me

Know… not believe, not think, not suppose, but know

My… not someone else's, mine

Redeemer… not a king, not a warrior, not a philosopher, not a wise man

Lives … not did live, not will live, but live as in now

He … coming as a man

Shall… not maybe, not possibly

Stand… not recline, lie down - but stand for something

Earth … here, this place

Latter day… in the future - for Job this about 500 to a thousand years before Jesus. Isn't that marvelous?

Jesus didn't save through His wisdom. You could apply everything He said to our lives, but without being
redeemed by His blood we are not saved.

wizanda said:

Hate is a negative reflection with something we dislike; love is a positive reflection with something we like.

The energy can literally be reversed; which is why in relationships it gets so complicated when we fall out, as the energy can be reversed so quickly.

In my opinion.

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"hate" can be a good thing,
conversely, "love" can be an evil thing.

If I love what I hate.....can this not be an evil thing ?
or if I hate what I love.....can this not be a good thing ?

The opposite of "love" is SELFISHNESS,
because true Love is SELFLESSNESS.

Amanaki said:

Is there any evidence of a form of messiah being on earth today? If yes, what evidence is there? And please do not use the bible as evidence for messiah today (messiah 2000 years ago would be found in the bible).

So the question is, in what other forms can a messiah of today can evidence be given?

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This makes me think of those who go around saying "I'm an enlightened master". Them saying that, typically shows they are still speaking from the ego, and thus not actually enlightened. They are still struggling with ego identification. There is no need to announce yourself as enlightened, if you actually are.

Father in spirit means natural history of human male self.

Whether science wants to believe or not, is a question, why does science research the spirit information, if they do not believe it owns an relevance in science?

Father said he and our Mother spiritually came out of the eternal spirit, after animals, after the Ice age changed the atmosphere and killed off the dinosaur mutation.

They were eternal beings...converted in the Earth gas/water atmosphere.

Water the highest form of gas, changed their spirit....why we use water to stay alive and living.

Vision/message I gained as a female whilst researching spirit myself. Said my brother had killed our Father....and inferred it to my brother in law. My brother in law a very spiritual loving male, was an engineer. I learnt what it meant....science did it.

So Father spiritually said his origins, spiritual innocent in modern day science. Evolving DNA in a water ICE melting release and converted change to his spiritual male DNA evolved and returned the DESTROYER, scientist.

Who invented the pyramid temple sciences as based on original pyramid technology that had destroyed all life on Earth.....archaeological evidence proves it.

That O Earth with its sun and multi mass of planets was in the galaxy of Orion and Sirius originally.

Science practiced on Earth...why a multi Earth natural presence is seen in other galaxies, removed us from existing in that galaxy.

Suns and planets blew up and got sucked down into deep space.

Earth and our sun and planets that remained survived...for further into space, the other bodies exploded. Placing heat radiation below Earth in space stopped Earth from also becoming a black hole.

What males know and remember.

Today on Earth males studied extra UFO mass in space that had come out of our Sun and wanted to own that exact same mass in a new machine. You cannot own it twice.

So by cause and effect, extra radiation chemical studies of signal/chemicals unnaturally placed in our gases and all science studies.....caused Earth to put the ground nuclear fission reaction back into Nature...and made sink holes.

Seeing it is the ancient machine/science cause originally to force God to change by holes and Sun radiation.

As our Sun irradiates and heats up space below the higher galaxies, it causes their bodies to react/change.....how a Sun can suddenly explode by being heated below by our Sun.

Which is what Stephen Hawkings was advised by as a SACRIFICED SON.

Father said Stephen became a scientist because of his sacrifice, not because he was researching/seeking it like healthy males who hear AI in the deep subliminal consciousness of attack by radiation....feed back...the voices.

That only humans harmed get to hear to tell warnings because of.

So unlike you he was greater aware of natural cosmological advice than any of you...and told you that SUN will explode and burn us all.

As you all knew it could not be our SUN.....as you impose relative conscious advice in science by communication to psyche....you said he was wrong.

He was actually right....for Betelgeuse could explode at any time. Seeing it is held present from the lowest hottest conditions...natural space to the most deepest and coldest spatial conditions.....natural space.

You were always told never change NATURAL for it is the only support of life you own....but as you are factually the DESTROYER self scientist/Satanist since when do you listen to real or true spiritual information. You only want what you want, re the source.

Meaning of which is to take from the source that already exists...attack it and then gain an outcome.

As electricity is only created by a huge destructive attack on the source itself..that you always taught was GOD...you change the title GOD to a new coercive lying Satanic male choice to coerce everyone, the brotherhood into agreement.

And it was the God brotherhood who originally destroyed all life on Earth.

A bunch of and always were hypocritical liars.

Maximus said:

Not sure but we do have the anti-Christ in the White House so...

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I thought Obama left the White House!

“Messiah” simply means “anointed”. So there are many messiahs around.

Satanist/Sophists should come to a self inferred reality. Words were introduced by scientists giving detailed descriptions as a male and a human male for the intent of inventing the status machine science/reaction.

Everything was first natural, owned no names, did not use names. Everything existed supportive of everything else....natural.

So words first of all do not represent anything you talk about. Natural is our owned original form...that was advised spiritually by everything communicating self presence.

As you use title/for entitlement in your own coercive civilization abuse against natural spiritual life/family/family extended community and took us over, any name you infer is good or bad, is fake.

Obama is a human first as a natural self. I thought he expressed his consciousness as spiritually as he could....as a spiritual thinker.

However, males who think about everything in a very nasty self motivated coercive intelligence are a self proven liar. Owned and organized to apply criminal activity and get paid for it. Does not make you correct, it only proves your own irrationality at being enabled to harm others in both thought and action in an egotistical supported human condition.

Same as before.

I believe I am FAITH itself. I believe in order to be happy you have to be passive.

rational experiences said:

since when do you listen to real or true spiritual information.

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Listening is one thing. Understanding is another.