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QUESTIONS ABOUT CHRISTUS VICTOR THEORY

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sudakar

God's faithful
My friend told me, "The problem is when we believe that torture and suffering were a demand made by God the Father, and He was unable/unwilling to forgive without them".

My question to her was, "So was God making a demand because He was unable/unwilling to defeat sin, death & satan without sending Jesus to torture, suffering and death?"

She also told me, "But it's not as though God the Father was bloodthirsty and simply demanding SOMEONE suffer "or else" He will refuse to forgive".

My second question to her was, "Was God the Father bloodthirsty and simply demanding SOMEONE suffer "or else" He will refuse to defeat sin, death & satan?"

You may post your replies to my two questions.
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
sudakar said:
My friend told me, "The problem is when we believe that torture and suffering were a demand made by God the Father, and He was unable/unwilling to forgive without them".

My question to her was, "So was God making a demand because He was unable/unwilling to defeat sin, death & satan without sending Jesus to torture, suffering and death?"

She also told me, "But it's not as though God the Father was bloodthirsty and simply demanding SOMEONE suffer "or else" He will refuse to forgive".

My second question to her was, "Was God the Father bloodthirsty and simply demanding SOMEONE suffer "or else" He will refuse to defeat sin, death & satan?"

You may post your replies to my two questions.
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Torture and suffering occur at the hands of man, not God.

God is perfectly just, therefore the abuse of free will results in what occurs when one puts their trust in man, not God.

From the very beginning, God designed a sacrificial system, so that the consequences of the sinners choices can be forgiven yet the required justice exists.

God does as He chooses. He has given mankind the freedom to make choices. Human choices created sin.

Christ was the innocent perfect sacrifice who stands in our place, if we choose, and has suffered the consequences of our sin, so we can be forgiven.
 
leov

leov

Well-Known Member
The entire Christianity in a condensed form I given in the Prodigal Son Story.
 
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sudakar

God's faithful
shmogie said:
Torture and suffering occur at the hands of man, not God.

God is perfectly just, therefore the abuse of free will results in what occurs when one puts their trust in man, not God.

From the very beginning, God designed a sacrificial system, so that the consequences of the sinners choices can be forgiven yet the required justice exists.

God does as He chooses. He has given mankind the freedom to make choices. Human choices created sin.

Christ was the innocent perfect sacrifice who stands in our place, if we choose, and has suffered the consequences of our sin, so we can be forgiven.
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Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Are you denying God's predeterminate counsel?
 
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