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Are Russians Controlling Bernie Sanders Mind?

Vichar

Member
My avatar is actually the future Dr. Who of the scifi series.

Claims of racism does not have the same impact on black voters as it has in years past as blacks are actually seeing progress and advancement under Trump. You might want to do a little research, blacks are increasingly abandoning the democratic party. I imagine the democrats will go full tilt on racism in the coming months because democratic strategists think blacks are really that dumb and easy to manipulate.
Once again this will fall on deaf ears

I am well and fully aware that blacks are abandoning the Democratic party. They are abandoning the party that favors Democracy; in other words the party that wants each and every American to have a say in their own government. I frankly don't favor the Democrats so much as I think an evil, childish man like Trump should never have been allowed to become our President. And if you think he's not racist, you are the one who seriously needs to do some research.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Fear mongering didn't work in 2016 and won't work in 2020, Americans are too smart for that.
Trump got elected on fear mongering so it did work in 2016. But of course when Emperor Trump does it, it's totally peachy keen.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Trump got elected on fear mongering so it did work in 2016. But of course when Emperor Trump does it, it's totally peachy keen.

I thought the majority voted for Hillary and that Trump was an illegitimate president, that's been the argument for the last three years.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I thought the majority voted for Hillary and that Trump was an illegitimate president, that's been the argument for the last three years.
He got elected but not by the people. He got elected by the Electoral College.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The oldest trick in the book is to accuse your political opponents of what your side is in fact doing. We know for a fact that Trump is buddy-buddy with Putin, that the Russians tampered with the 2016 election via social media to weaken the United States' presence and influence in the world (because they knew Trump would make everyone else in the world mad because, well, he's Trump.)

Russian Election Hacking Efforts, Wider Than Previously Known, Draw Little Scrutiny
Did Russia Affect the 2016 Election? It’s Now Undeniable
2016 Election Hacking Fast Facts - CNN
How Russia Helped Swing the Election for Trump
Mueller's Report Shows All The Ways Russia Interfered In 2016 Presidential Election

All of the above are unbiased, reputable news sources. And they are all in the top 10 Google results when I searched for 2016 election tampering by the Russians. For Pete's sake, my fellow Americans, turn your brain on, do even a tiny bit of research, I'm begging you. Please, just a little common sense now before the 2020 elections will save you and your family a lot of self-inflicted trouble down the road. (Although, I do admit that hardships provide experiences that can hone the soul. What will be will be, as they say.)

Obviously, Trump is the 2020 candidate with the most ties to the Russians. Just a moment of clear thinking reveals this to a sensible human being.

I think Sanders is one up on it.

 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I was, of course, responding to @Stanyon .

When the Electoral College does not represent the will of the majority of voters, there's a problem.

I wouldn't attribute that problem to the Electoral College, in and of itself. It's the idea of "winner take all." The electors within each state should be divided proportionate to the actual results. In that way, it would better reflect the will of the majority of voters.

Of course, if the will of the majority of voters is really so important (and I think it is), federal elections should be expanded to include cabinet posts and federal judgeships as elected positions. (I'd also like to see the CIA Director, FBI Director, and Joint Chiefs of Staff as popularly elected positions as well.)
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The electors within each state should be divided proportionate to the actual results. In that way, it would better reflect the will of the majority of voters.

That is an interesting idea but I'm betting that SCOTUS will rule that the Constitution does not allow states to interfere with Electors free choice sometime this summer.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
That is an interesting idea but I'm betting that SCOTUS will rule that the Constitution does not allow states to interfere with Electors free choice sometime this summer.
It’s up to the states how their electors are selected. A couple states do distribute them proportionally.

electors can be unfaithful too
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
That is an interesting idea but I'm betting that SCOTUS will rule that the Constitution does not allow states to interfere with Electors free choice sometime this summer.

I was thinking that voters in each district could select their own elector, so it wouldn't interfere in their free choice.
 
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