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SoulTYPE

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Well Meister if you do bad unto others, it will be returned to you in due time. It is like the old witch saying. And I wasn't saying that the Christians believe it was Karma, but merely stating that "karma" would have sounded better to match that description.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
SoulTYPE01 said:
Well Meister if you do bad unto others, it will be returned to you in due time. It is like the old witch saying. And I wasn't saying that the Christians believe it was Karma, but merely stating that "karma" would have sounded better to match that description.

I think we have a disagreement on the definition of what karma is. It is not simply, "you do something bad, so then something bad is going to happen to you." Karma is the moral law of cause and effect in Hinduism. It acts as a force to put your soul into situations where your soul has an opportunity for growth. It should not be viewed as simply as a reward/punishment system, it's not about that. It's about giving your soul chances to grow in order to reach liberation.

I think the West has really bastardized this idea of karma and don't understand it at all.
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
We do have that disagreement. But rather than shun your opinion, I value it. because it gives me a challenge. And damn you are wise.

I believe my vision of this is more the "Hollywood" style version of karma. Perhaps I have been watching "The Craft" too often. thankyou for your correction at this current moment.
 

fromthe heart

Well-Known Member
I have to agree with Mister Emu...and I'd like to add that anything that is evil has no good outcome for mankind...no good can be found in it.
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
People can be delusional enough to think they're doing things because they love someone, though it only ends up hurting people.
 
evil cant be the absence of love,

for example, some people love killing people, killing is supposedly evil...but they love it...

also evil can bring some good outcome, again we say killing is evil, but if you kill a murderer, then manhood benefits with people living

are poeple who kill for protection or defend another, or are psychologicaly initiated to kill evil? if your schizophrenic (soz 4 spelling) evil, if one kills and the other is christian and a holy man, how do u decide?
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
Lord T just explained my previous answer "That is if you follow the Christian meaning".
Evil to a Christian may differ from the "evil" opinioned by a murderer for exampple, the two just do not see it the same way. This does not make murdering a corect procedure though.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
for example, some people love killing people, killing is supposedly evil...but they love it...
In harming a person you show the absence of love for that person.

also evil can bring some good outcome, again we say killing is evil, but if you kill a murderer, then manhood benefits with people living
Mankind is no better off killing someone than having them in prison. Mankind however is better off if the person is able to come out of the prison reformed and able to add to the community positively.

are poeple who kill for protection or defend another, or are psychologicaly initiated to kill evil?
See my first quote, harming anyone means you have an absence of love for them and yes I believe it is wrong.

if your schizophrenic (soz 4 spelling) evil, if one kills and the other is christian and a holy man, how do u decide?
If one truly has a multiple personality problem, and one personality is evil, that personality is evil and not the other, one should aslo seek mental care, or if not available should submit one's self to a place where one's alter ego cannot harm people. If you have another mind in you and you cannot control it, you would be showing an absence of love in giving said ego a chance to harm people.

I stand by my remark that evil is the absence of love.
 

chuck010342

Active Member
SoulTYPE01 said:
Once again, that is if you follow the Christian meaning, and believe all others to be wrong.

yes I follow the christian meaning because it is the truth. There are other meanings out there but that doesn't mean that they are true.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Mister Emu writes: In harming a person you show the absence of love for that person.

Some killers believe that they are sending that person to a better afterlife. There have been many documented cases where a murderer has killed out of compassion.
Mister Emu writes: See my first quote, harming anyone means you have an absence of love for them and yes I believe it is wrong.

REMEMBER, that is your belief.

 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
chuck010342 said:
yes I follow the christian meaning because it is the truth. There are other meanings out there but that doesn't mean that they are true.
I am sure the each different religion will think that, Chuck. A christian believes their wauy is the truth. Not doing so would warrant their belief in Christianity.
 
your saying schizophrenic's should lock themselves away and suffer alone, by themselves, but if one persona takes over the other, you cannot control what happens, secondly their is the idea that he could love, and loath himself, love for existence, but hate for murder and darkness
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
Some killers believe that they are sending that person to a better afterlife. There have been many documented cases where a murderer has killed out of compassion.
Compassion and love don't always go together. In killing someone to send them to a better after-life you are taking away their free will. Free will to me is an essential part of love.

your saying schizophrenic's should lock themselves away and suffer alone, by themselves, but if one persona takes over the other, you cannot control what happens
I am saying that if you have multiple personalities that kill people you should seek immediate phsyciatric help. And yes, until the killer alter-ego is taken care of you should be in an institution, or some place where you cannot commit the acts.

Are you saying that you believe multiple personality killers should be roaming the streets because part of the killer doesn't have control of the body, forget all the dead people I guess...

secondly their is the idea that he could love, and loath himself, love for existence, but hate for murder and darkness
Good for him/her, but if you know you, under an alter-ego's control, are killing people you should turn yourself in. Immediatley.
 
what if they dont realise their like that, some people dont, what if this alta-ego cant be 'taken care' of as you put it, should they remained locked away for their entire life, devoid of lifes joys, then they lose love for life and everything about it, so without love, then are they evil?
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
what if they dont realise their like that
Then you wouldn't know, and thus would be unable to turn yourself in.

what if this alta-ego cant be 'taken care' of as you put it,
Then you should not be allowed on the streets, or near anyone you might hurt whilst the alter-ego has control.

should they remained locked away for their entire life
Should they be free to go around killing people?

then they lose love for life and everything about it, so without love, then are they evil?
If you are completly devoid of love, completly, then yes, you would be evil.
 
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