I don`t own anything in this world anymore.

Spirit of Light · Feb 23, 2020

That does not mean I have thrown everything away

It only means that I no longer hold any attachments to the physical objects that are in my life, I don't see it as mine. The objects do not hold my name, and if they should be taken away or broken it is ok. It also allows me to be freer because it allows me to not worry about objects that come into my life or are removed/lost in my life. It is only an object.

So why do so many people get obsessed with objects they buy or gain from other means? Does it really matter if something suddenly is gone from our life?

Laika · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
That does not mean I have thrown everything away It only means that I no longer hold any attachments to the physical objects that are in my life, I don't see it as mine. The objects do not hold my name, and if they should be taken away or broken it is ok. It also allows me to be freer because it allows me to not worry about objects that come into my life or are removed/lost in my life. It is only an object.

So why do so many people get obsessed with objects they buy or gain from other means? Does it really matter if something suddenly is gone from our life?

I would recommend using only cash Where ever possible. Being able to swipe your card when you are out or doing online shopping is about companies making it as easy as possible to part with your money. "Convienience" is really an illusion. So you spend money on stuff you don't need and it piles up in your room and you can't seem to stop.

So You can keep a little bit of cash at home in a safe place and get use to using only the money in your wallet as a budget. It takes a while to get used to. Top it up every month or so and that's the only time you use your card. It is less to worry about and you have to plan ahead and plan your spending more.

I've found you tend to be more thoughtful with money and save more AND there is less clutter. Aside from my desk and the occasional pile of clothes, my room is basically tidy. Strangely using cash means you value money more and are more conscious of the price of things so it helps you live more simply and make more deliberate choices.

It's one of those things that's so obvious once you've tried it and got used to it. It just stop the compulsion and the impulse to spend a little bit.

Twilight Hue · Feb 23, 2020

Laika said:
I would recommend using only cash Where ever possible. Being able to swipe your card when you are out or doing online shopping is about companies making it as easy as possible to part with your money. "Convienience" is really an illusion. So you spend money on stuff you don't need and it piles up in your room and you can't seem to stop.

So You can keep a little bit of cash at home in a safe place and get use to using only the money in your wallet as a budget. It takes a while to get used to. Top it up every month or so and that's the only time you use your card. It is less to worry about and you have to plan ahead and plan your spending more.

I've found you tend to be more thoughtful with money and save more AND there is less clutter. Aside from my desk and the occasional pile of clothes, my room is basically tidy. Strangely using cash means you value money more and are more conscious of the price of things so it helps you live more simply and make more deliberate choices.

It's one of those things that's so obvious once you've tried it and got used to it. It just stop the compulsion and the impulse to spend a little bit.

I kind of like that. :0)

paarsurrey · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
That does not mean I have thrown everything away It only means that I no longer hold any attachments to the physical objects that are in my life, I don't see it as mine. The objects do not hold my name, and if they should be taken away or broken it is ok. It also allows me to be freer because it allows me to not worry about objects that come into my life or are removed/lost in my life. It is only an object.

So why do so many people get obsessed with objects they buy or gain from other means? Does it really matter if something suddenly is gone from our life?

One means that one has now no undue attachments with the material things. It is OK.
What are one's goals of life now?
Regards

Jedster · Feb 23, 2020

Laika said:
I would recommend using only cash Where ever possible. Being able to swipe your card when you are out or doing online shopping is about companies making it as easy as possible to part with your money. "Convienience" is really an illusion. So you spend money on stuff you don't need and it piles up in your room and you can't seem to stop.

So You can keep a little bit of cash at home in a safe place and get use to using only the money in your wallet as a budget. It takes a while to get used to. Top it up every month or so and that's the only time you use your card. It is less to worry about and you have to plan ahead and plan your spending more.

I've found you tend to be more thoughtful with money and save more AND there is less clutter. Aside from my desk and the occasional pile of clothes, my room is basically tidy. Strangely using cash means you value money more and are more conscious of the price of things so it helps you live more simply and make more deliberate choices.

It's one of those things that's so obvious once you've tried it and got used to it. It just stop the compulsion and the impulse to spend a little bit.

Nice post.
I am pretty much like you.
Some 25 years ago, I fell into a large debt using the several credit cards I had, then by some unexpected luck , I won a court case that I fully expected to lose.
So, I paid off all my debts(and had a few quid left over :>)) and promised myself never to get into debt myself.

I mostly use cash for everything, and if I do use a credit card(like buying something online), I always pay the at the end of the month/period.

As you say, it works. It also makes me feel lighter
Look after the pennies ..etc

Cheers

Spirit of Light · Feb 23, 2020

paarsurrey said:
One means that one has now no undue attachments with the material things. It is OK.
What are one's goals of life now?
Regards

To let go of every attachment to this physical life as human being

To exist without holding on to anything.

Spirit of Light · Feb 23, 2020

Laika said:
I would recommend using only cash Where ever possible. Being able to swipe your card when you are out or doing online shopping is about companies making it as easy as possible to part with your money. "Convienience" is really an illusion. So you spend money on stuff you don't need and it piles up in your room and you can't seem to stop.

So You can keep a little bit of cash at home in a safe place and get use to using only the money in your wallet as a budget. It takes a while to get used to. Top it up every month or so and that's the only time you use your card. It is less to worry about and you have to plan ahead and plan your spending more.

I've found you tend to be more thoughtful with money and save more AND there is less clutter. Aside from my desk and the occasional pile of clothes, my room is basically tidy. Strangely using cash means you value money more and are more conscious of the price of things so it helps you live more simply and make more deliberate choices.

It's one of those things that's so obvious once you've tried it and got used to it. It just stop the compulsion and the impulse to spend a little bit.

At the moment i have only a few cents on my bank account

And some cash for food. That is all that is needed.

Vee · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
That does not mean I have thrown everything away It only means that I no longer hold any attachments to the physical objects that are in my life, I don't see it as mine. The objects do not hold my name, and if they should be taken away or broken it is ok. It also allows me to be freer because it allows me to not worry about objects that come into my life or are removed/lost in my life. It is only an object.

So why do so many people get obsessed with objects they buy or gain from other means? Does it really matter if something suddenly is gone from our life?

I'm very attached to my guitars because they bring me great joy. Other than that, material things don't mean much to me.

Spirit of Light · Feb 23, 2020

Vee said:
I'm very attached to my guitars because they bring me great joy. Other than that, material things don't mean much to me.

It is understandable that we sometimes feel more for one item than others, but if you can detach to other objects, what is holding you attached to just the guitars? Are they not just objects?

Howard Is · Feb 23, 2020

I went on a credit card spree because it looked like I was going to die.

I didn't.

Bummer

Revoltingest · Feb 23, 2020

I like owning stuff.
And I have more to get.
But I also have stuff to sell & donate.

Vee · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
It is understandable that we sometimes feel more for one item than others, but if you can detach to other objects, what is holding you attached to just the guitars? Are they not just objects?

They are just objects and I can live without them, but the fact that playing makes me happy creates an emotional connection between me and the instrument. I associate making music with feeling good.

WhyIsThatSo · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
That does not mean I have thrown everything away It only means that I no longer hold any attachments to the physical objects that are in my life, I don't see it as mine. The objects do not hold my name, and if they should be taken away or broken it is ok. It also allows me to be freer because it allows me to not worry about objects that come into my life or are removed/lost in my life. It is only an object.

So why do so many people get obsessed with objects they buy or gain from other means? Does it really matter if something suddenly is gone from our life?

The real test will come when you rise up from your physical body at death, and see "yourself" (body) laying there....
then what will you do . Because your body is your main "attachment" .

Spirit of Light · Feb 23, 2020

WhyIsThatSo said:
The real test will come when you rise up from your physical body at death, and see "yourself" (body) laying there....
then what will you do . Because your body is your main "attachment" .

I will feel free from the boundaries of human life. The body is not me, it is only a physical manifestation of energy

WhyIsThatSo · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
I will feel free from the boundaries of human life. The body is not me, it is only a physical manifestation of energy

Very good....

Saint Frankenstein · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
That does not mean I have thrown everything away It only means that I no longer hold any attachments to the physical objects that are in my life, I don't see it as mine. The objects do not hold my name, and if they should be taken away or broken it is ok. It also allows me to be freer because it allows me to not worry about objects that come into my life or are removed/lost in my life. It is only an object.

So why do so many people get obsessed with objects they buy or gain from other means? Does it really matter if something suddenly is gone from our life?

Because they make me happy and have nice memories attached to them. I can't relate to your rather extreme viewpoint on this. I've lost basically all my belongings multiple times before and was robbed and assaulted a couple months ago. I'm not going to pretend like that didn't hurt.

icehorse · Feb 23, 2020

Vee said:
I'm very attached to my guitars because they bring me great joy. Other than that, material things don't mean much to me.

It's very similar for me. There are things I "own" (air quotes intended), that would be hard to lose, but I mostly think of them as my tools. For example, we have a small horse farm, in a remote location. One of our biggest projects is to help the lives of as many horses as we can, and I think of our farm as a tool that helps us further our project. We don't have jewelry or fancy cars or a big house. Everything is very utilitarian.

Spirit of Light · Feb 23, 2020

Saint Frankenstein said:
Because they make me happy and have nice memories attached to them. I can't relate to your rather extreme viewpoint on this. I've lost basically all my belongings multiple times before and was robbed and assaulted a couple months ago. I'm not going to pretend like that didn't hurt.

It is not extreme actually, because since there is no attachments left toward anything physical it means no need to be extreme about it. If i have something it is ok there and then, if i lose it, it still ok there and then.

Saint Frankenstein · Feb 23, 2020

Amanaki said:
It is not extreme actually, because since there is no attachments left toward anything physical it means no need to be extreme about it. If i have something it is ok there and then, if i lose it, it still ok there and then.

It's extreme to me because that total non-attachment concept isn't very realistic, imo, and never was a part of my paradigm.

Spirit of Light · Feb 23, 2020

Saint Frankenstein said:
It's extreme to me because that total non-attachment concept isn't very realistic, imo, and never was a part of my paradigm.

I think it varies from teaching to teachings. But letting go of attachments is a natural thing that happens within cultivation, it is not about removing it with force, it comes with the knowledge of nothing in this physical world is needed to cling to since it is not a part of what happens after we are passing from this life as human. No matter if we reincarnate as a human again or if we realize enlightenment and not coming back to this physical realm, this life we live now only count for this human life But what we do bring with us is the karma or the virtue (depending on what we have done in this life)

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