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Two New Studies Say Medicare For All Is More Cost-Effective Than A Public Option

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Two new studies found that the Medicare for All plan proposed by candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., would cost less than the public option proposed by former Vice President Joe Biden and other moderates in the Democratic primary.

To read the full article, click here:

New studies show Medicare for All costs less than public option

I'd perhaps favor a Medicare-for-all system if taxpayer dollars were to pay for my medical marijuana. ...:)
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Seems fair. But voting republican will make sure that never happens.

I would likely consider voting for a Democratic Presidential candidate like Andrew Yang after my beloved leader Donald J. Trump completes serving his second term as our P.O.T.U.S.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I would likely consider voting for a Democratic Presidential candidate like Andrew Yang after my beloved leader Donald J. Trump completes serving his second term as our P.O.T.U.S.

Will that be after the two terms served by Bernie Sanders? :D

(Sorry, had to!)
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Will that be after the two terms served by Bernie Sanders? :D

(Sorry, had to!)

Does Bernie Sanders even have enough life left in him to survive past Presidential inauguration day next year?
:D
(Sorry had to!)

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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Two new studies found that the Medicare for All plan proposed by candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., would cost less than the public option proposed by former Vice President Joe Biden and other moderates in the Democratic primary.

To read the full article, click here:

New studies show Medicare for All costs less than public option
Exactly, which is why the other 20 most industrialized countries have universal healthcare with better outcomes, and they do it for significantly less than we do.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Two new studies found that the Medicare for All plan proposed by candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., would cost less than the public option proposed by former Vice President Joe Biden and other moderates in the Democratic primary.

To read the full article, click here:

New studies show Medicare for All costs less than public option

Hospital administrators have known this for more than a decade. Its important to stop cost shifting.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think the choice of a VP is particularly important this time around.
Especially since the vote of minorities is so vitally important for the Dems to have a chance of winning this year. Right now the odds appear to be in Trump's favor, especially because of the Electoral College.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
Two new studies found that the Medicare for All plan proposed by candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., would cost less than the public option proposed by former Vice President Joe Biden and other moderates in the Democratic primary.

To read the full article, click here:

New studies show Medicare for All costs less than public option
Doesn't surprise me. And either is probably more cost effective than what we have now. If I had to design the worst possible health care payment system I'm not sure I could do worse than what the US currently has...
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
No you wouldn't. ;)

Unless Donald J. Trump Jr. campaigns to follow in his dad's footsteps to be our P.O.T.U.S. I'd be very open-minded to voting for a seriously considered presidential candidate who'd advocate the implementation of tax reform and universal catastrophic health insurance with universal basic income ( T.R.A.U.C.H.I.W.U.B.I..), be done nearly resembling as follows:

1. Universal catastrophic health insurance ( U..C.H.I.) affordably be done with insured cost sharing, ( Universal Medicare with a combined $5,000 Part A and B deductible, a 20 percent Part A and B co-insurance and a 50 percent prescription drug co-insurance ) costing taxpayers ca. $2.2 trillion in the fiscal year 2026.

2. U.C.H.I being funded in large part with a 10 percent value-added-tax ( 10%V.A.T.) generating approximately 1.25 trillion dollars in the year 2026; this along with U.C.H.I. being funded in part with an increase in the corporate income tax rate from 21 percent to 29 percent resulting in corporations paying U.S. corporate income taxes of ca. $550 billion, the remainder of funding for U.C. H.I. coming from Medicare payroll taxes of ca. $400 billion.

3. Social security being fully funded by a doubling of the cap on social security taxes, so that all workers and employers would contribute 6.2 percent of social security taxes on every dollar of their earnings up to $350,000 of each individual wage earner's income .In 2026, this would mean Americans would pay ca. $1.4 trillion in social security payroll taxes.

4. U.S. military spending along with veteran services being funded with a simplified income tax system, just a few income tax brackets beginning in year 2026, zero percent on the initial $12,000 of personal individual annual income, 12 percent on $12,001 to $62,000 of personal individual annual income, 32 percent on individual personal annual earnings in excess of $62,000. Capital gains taxed at same rate as ordinary income. No tax credits, save for a refundable $4,000 child tax credit as well as a $5,000 subsistence living allowance tax credit for each adult American citizen. In 2026, this would result in total personal federal income taxes amounting to an estimated one trillion dollars.

5. Approved federal spending in 2026 at ca. $1.4 trillion for Social Security, ( no change from status-quo on S.S. retirement benefits ), ca one trillion dollars towards the military and veteran services or veteran benefits, $600 billion on debt interest payments, an estimated $72 billion spending on the U.S. Department of Agriculture, ( ca. $13 billion ) for the Department of Commerce, ( ca. $13 billion ) for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, ( ca. $37 billion) for the Department of Energy, ( ca. $10 billion ) for the Environmental Protection Agency, ( $9 billion ). for the Food and Drug Administration, ( ca. $45 billion ) for the Department of Housing and Urban Development, ( ca. $26 billion) for the Department of Interior annual spending, ( ca. $61 billion) for the Department of Homeland Security, (ca. $35 billion) for the Department of Justice, ( ca. $13 billion ) for the Department of Labor, ( ca. $27 billion ) for N.A.S.A., ( ca. $49 billion ) for the State Department, ( ca. $120 billion) for the Department of Transportation, ( ca. $24 billion ) for the Department of Treasury; the above proposed federal spending resulting in total federal annual spending to be ca. $5.754 trillion..

6. The implementation of excise taxes on fuel, tobacco, cannabis, alcohol, air travel, Amtrak, national park and museum admission fees collectively adding up to ca. $240 billion in 2026; this along with financial transaction taxes ( remittance taxes and stock/bond trade taxes) generating ca. $200 billion.

7. The implementation of tariffs resulting in ca. $120 billion of revenue in 2026, this along with. federal estate taxes generating ca. $35 billion in revenue.

8. Excise taxes, federal estate taxes, financial transaction taxes and tariffs being used to fund fiscal year 2026 spending on an estimated 72 billion spending on the U.S. Department of Agriculture, ( ca. $13 billion ) for the Department of Commerce, ( ca. $13 billion ) for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, ( ca. $37 billion) for the Department of Energy, ( ca. $10 billion ) for the Environmental Protection Agency, ( $9 billion ). for the Food and Drug Administration, ( ca. $45 billion ) for the Department of Housing and Urban Development, ( ca. $26 billion) for the Department of Interior annual spending, ( ca. $61 billion) for the Department of Homeland Security, (ca. $35 billion) for the Department of Justice, ( ca. $13 billion ) for the Department of Labor, ( ca. $26 billion ) for N.A.S.A., ( ca. $49 billion ) for the State Department, ( ca. $120 billion) for the Department of Transportation, ( ca. $24 billion ) for the Department of Treasury; the above approved federal spending resulting in total federal annual spending to be ca. $5.754 trillion..in comparison to the above proposed taxes for 2026 adding up to ca. $5.195 trillion.

9. The above approved fiscal year 2026 federal spending being ca. $5.754 trillion and $5.195. trillion of federal taxes resulting in an annual federal deficit of ca. $559 billion in 2026.
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Especially since the vote of minorities is so vitally important for the Dems to have a chance of winning this year. Right now the odds appear to be in Trump's favor, especially because of the Electoral College.

Right now, the public betting have the odds of us pro-Trump supporters getting Donald J.Trump re-elected as our chosen leader stands at an all-time high of approximately 62.9 percent. ...:)

Reference: 2020 Presidential Odds: Trump Remains at an All-Time High
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Isn't this simply because it's a safe bet that he will be the Republican candidate while none of the democrats are prohibitive favorites?

Donald J. Trump is a strong favorite among us right-wing populist American Nationalists who fell as though President Trump deserves being re-elected as our P.O.T.U.S. for leading "America into unprecedented economy prosperity with his executive actions of enacting regulation cuts, U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate treaty, fair and balanced trade deals like U.S.M.C.A. and the China Phase One, and approval of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017; all this of our Trump-led Trumped-up economy leading to record prosperity with record high stock valuations, record employment opportunities for minorities, real wage growth for the middle class, and reduced poverty. Furthermore, Trump has helped strengthened our nation's security by way of having border security improved, the withdrawal of U.S. troops from endless wars, and the appointment of conservative judges." --
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Donald J. Trump is a strong favorite among us right-wing populist American Nationalists who fell as though President Trump deserves being re-elected as our P.O.T.U.S. for leading "America into unprecedented economy prosperity with his executive actions of enacting regulation cuts, U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate treaty, fair and balanced trade deals like U.S.M.C.A. and the China Phase One, and approval of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017; all this of our Trump-led Trumped-up economy leading to record prosperity with record high stock valuations, record employment opportunities for minorities, real wage growth for the middle class, and reduced poverty. Furthermore, Trump has helped strengthened our nation's security by way of having border security improved, the withdrawal of U.S. troops from endless wars, and the appointment of conservative judges." --
You right-wingers are fortunately a dying breed. We progressives are coming on strong because we want a nation that benefits everyone willing to cooperate and not just a handful of greedy people who think they're entitled to take far more than they need.

The GOP is going to have to cheat just to take back the Senate. Trump will go down in a landslide.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
You right-wingers are fortunately a dying breed. We progressives are coming on strong because we want a nation that benefits everyone willing to cooperate and not just a handful of greedy people who think they're entitled to take far more than they need.

The GOP is going to have to cheat just to take back the Senate. Trump will go down in a landslide.

If you really think that you could make bank in the betting markets.

I would love to see Trump go down, but it seems unlikely unless something big happens in the next 6 months.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
You right-wingers are fortunately a dying breed. We progressives are coming on strong because we want a nation that benefits everyone willing to cooperate and not just a handful of greedy people who think they're entitled to take far more than they need.

The GOP is going to have to cheat just to take back the Senate. Trump will go down in a landslide.

Please let's make a friendly wager, if Donald J.Trump doesn't win the majority of electoral college votes on December 14th this year, then I'll ban myself from this religiousforums.com website from December 15th, 2020 until Presidential inauguration day on January 20th 2021. However, if Donald J. Trump were to win the majority of electoral college votes on December 14th this year, then you must ban yourself from this religiousforums.com website from December 15th, 2020 until Presidential inauguration day on January 20th, 2021.
 
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