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Should murderers have the right of anonymity?

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I am sorry and with all due respect, but it deals with shameless double standards.
How, exactly?

Again, the identity of the perpetrator in that case was already known and reported before any gag order could be issued, and the incident was extremely public. In these cases, it isn't.

They're completely different situations.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
That's an incredibly silly suggestion. You're essentially saying that we should punish people simply for being related to people who commit crimes.

I am saying that potential criminals should consider all the ramifications of committing a crime.

Your use of "English" and "Pakistani", as if those things are remotely relevant, speaks volumes.

It does speak volumes. How many victims of those rape crimes were Muslim girls?

It's time you stop trying to bypass law because of your racially-charged outrage and trying to push a racist agenda rather than actually doing what's for the good of the community as a whole.

Criminals should take note of that rather than me.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I am saying that potential criminals should consider all the ramifications of committing a crime.
Agreed. I don't see why releasing the names and details of potentially innocent people who are merely under investigation or at trial for a crime would deter that, though.

It does speak volumes. How many victims of those rape crimes were Muslim girls?
An irrelevant amount.

Because it's irrelevant.

Criminals should take note of that rather than me.
And the criminal justice system should punish the guilty, not the innocent.

You advocate mob rule.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
How, exactly?

Again, the identity of the perpetrator in that case was already known and reported before any gag order could be issued, and the incident was extremely public. In these cases, it isn't.

They're completely different situations.

No...the name of the rapists in the Rotherham case was known too, before the trial.
And the gag order was issued after.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Agreed. I don't see why releasing the names and details of potentially innocent people who are merely under investigation or at trial for a crime would deter that, though.

Those found guilty of a crime must be named regardless.

An irrelevant amount.

Because it's irrelevant.

How can Pakistani men raping and abusing only white girls and terrorising the families of those girls be irrelevant?

And the criminal justice system should punish the guilty, not the innocent.

You advocate mob rule.

I advocate the need for one set of rules applied to everyone, equally.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Those found guilty of a crime must be named regardless.
That's down to the judge presiding over the case. If they determine it's in the public interest that they remain anonymous after such a time, they likely have their reasons.

How can Pakistani men raping and abusing only white girls and terrorising the families of those girls be irrelevant?
Because your emphasis on it is an attempt to stoke racial hatred rather than address the actual problem of paedophilia.

I advocate the need for one set of rules applied to everyone, equally.
No, you don't. You advocate removing the rights of groups you don't like because of their race, rather than allowing the law to work as it should. You clearly only care about these cases insofar as you can use them to stoke hatred against racial or minority groups.

Too bad the law doesn't let you do that.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Those found guilty of a crime must be named regardless.



How can Pakistani men raping and abusing only white girls and terrorising the families of those girls be irrelevant?



I advocate the need for one set of rules applied to everyone, equally.
What about the White guys who rape women of all races? It does not matter WHERE the person come from, it is the action done that is the evil in the situation.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
That's down to the judge presiding over the case. If they determine it's in the public interest that they remain anonymous after such a time, they likely have their reasons.

As if judges are not politically motivated.

Because your emphasis on it is an attempt to stoke racial hatred rather than address the actual problem of paedophilia.

If it is just industrial scale paedophilia they would not have targeted only white girls.

No, you don't. You advocate removing the rights of groups you don't like because of their race, rather than allowing the law to work as it should. You clearly only care about these cases insofar as you can use them to stoke hatred against racial or minority groups.

Too bad the law doesn't let you do that.

Criminals are criminals regardless of their diversity and should be treated in the same way.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
I would think that the only people who need to know the name of someone who has committed a murder, would be the family who lost a loved one. It is not necessary for public to know

A murder is an attack against the society and not just against the people that were de facto murdered and their loved ones.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
As if judges are not politically motivated.
As if I think your assessment of anybody's motives is meaningful.

If it is just industrial scale paedophilia they would not have targeted only white girls.
Some right-minded people choose not to focus on race and instead engage with the problem.

Criminals are criminals regardless of their diversity and should be treated in the same way.
Except that's not what you want. You want minority criminals to be treated worse. Hence why you are continually pushing this agenda based on race and emphasizing that aspect of it rather than looking at criminal justice as a whole.

If you genuinely believe about equality, perhaps focus less on the conspiracy theory that minorities are being unfairly protected by the law and instead focus on the massive and widespread inequality, hate crime and discrimination AGAINST minorities, both in law and in wider communities.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
A murder is an attack against the society and not just against the people that were de facto murdered and their loved ones.
Only if you feel it is an attack of your self. It is terrible when someone is killed, But if it does not directly attack me or my family, why would I take it as an attack on me?
 
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