Kent State gun girl open carries on campus. The intolerant socialist left rears its ugly head.

epronovost · Feb 19, 2020

Revoltingest said:
Dictionary.com & Merriam Webster as "propaganda outlet".
Oh, you lefties.....Bless your heart.

I was actually referring to the Heritage Foundation as a propaganda outlet and the Webster and Dictionary.com as non-authoritative on the subject (though they are authoritative on the spelling of socialism in english I will admit).

Revoltingest · Feb 19, 2020

epronovost said:
I don't know this, I'm making hypothesis.

Well that settles that.

Revoltingest · Feb 19, 2020

epronovost said:
I was actually referring to the Heritage Foundation as a propaganda outlet and the Webster and Dictionary.com as non-authoritative on the subject (though they are authoritative on the spelling of socialism in english I will admit).

Yes, you know better than all the lexicographers.
This is the point where I'll agree to disagree.

epronovost · Feb 19, 2020

Revoltingest said:
Well that settles that.

but that doesn't answer the question. You said you knew why they did it, why is it?

Revoltingest · Feb 19, 2020

epronovost said:
but that doesn't answer the question. You said you knew why they did it, why is it?

By post #102, I meant that tonight's discussion has become unproductive.
I'll be back tomorrow, ready to cover new things.

epronovost · Feb 19, 2020

Revoltingest said:
Yes, you know better than all the lexicographers.
This is the point where I'll agree to disagree.

Have you ever used a speciliased dictionnary before? You can search the definition of socialism in a historical dictionnary or an economic dictionnary if you want. These are written by people with actual training in the relevent domains and they will provide you a definition of socialism that expands well beyond that of a usual dictionary. Trust the specialists about their specialty not the generalist whose job isn't even to explain such thing.

Heyo · Feb 19, 2020

Father Heathen said:
@Nowhere Man

"The term socialism refers to any system in which the production and distribution of goods and services is a shared responsibility of a group of people. Socialism is based upon economic and political theories that advocate for collectivism. In a state of socialism, there is no privately owned property." - Examples of Socialism

So which Democratic candidates have openly advocated for government seizure of factories and private property?

(Emphasis added by me.)

As per the cited definition, seizure of factories and private property is not necessary for something to be socialist. A publicly operated service, like, say, protection and law enforcement, would be socialist under that definition.
As @Revoltingest pointed out socialism/capitalism is a spectrum and there are no true socialist or capitalist countries.

Heyo · Feb 19, 2020

epronovost said:
Why do they carry then?

Typical americanistan paranoia? But my guess is only as good as yours.

Twilight Hue · Feb 20, 2020

Our Kent State gun girl vows return to campus with friends to exercise their right to open carry a firearm.

Kaitlin Bennett, Kent State gun girl, vows return to Ohio University

I'm sure she'll be highly visible and recognizable as her friends will be.

But of course the 'tolerant' left will be on their best behavior. Right?

Thief · Feb 20, 2020

I gather the discussion to overview...….should we be alarmed when someone carries a rifle?

no

does it matter where?

and then the word ....infringement

It Aint Necessarily So · Feb 20, 2020

Hidingfromyou said:
Hi!!!

Looks like I found you guys!

I hope everything is well

Hi. Been fine.

Welcome to Religious Forums, Hiding. It's a pretty nice venue.

Revoltingest · Feb 20, 2020

Heyo said:
(Emphasis added by me.)

As per the cited definition, seizure of factories and private property is not necessary for something to be socialist. A publicly operated service, like, say, protection and law enforcement, would be socialist under that definition.
As @Revoltingest pointed out socialism/capitalism is a spectrum and there are no true socialist or capitalist countries.

We can say there are no races, eg, black, white, Asian.
Even if their are races, dang near no one is pure.
And yet people recognize their existence.
Gender has similar treatment these days.
And yet....
It's normal & useful to see Mike Tyson as a black male,
& to see Greta Thunberg as a (annoying) white female.
See where this is going relative to socialism & capitalism?

Heyo · Feb 20, 2020

Revoltingest said:
We can say there are no races, eg, black, white, Asian.
Even if their are races, dang near no one is pure.
And yet people recognize their existence.
Gender has similar treatment these days.
And yet....
It's normal & useful to see Mike Tyson as a black male,
& to see Greta Thunberg as a (annoying) white female.
See where this is going relative to socialism & capitalism?

I see two possible solutions: either we handle the situation as purely relative, i.e. we stop saying "X is a socialist country" and only say "X is more socialist than Y" or we agree on (arbitrary) boundaries that define what a socialist country is. E.g. there have to be state owned means of production of goods, not only services.

Hidingfromyou · Feb 20, 2020

It Aint Necessarily So said:
Hi. Been fine.

Welcome to Religious Forums, Hiding. It's a pretty nice venue.

Understood.

esmith · Feb 20, 2020

epronovost said:
What do they call it then? Why do they carry guns if they don't like them and don't think they look good/cool with them?

I will give you my opinion on open carry and concealed carry.
Open carry(other than LEO's) anywhere other than in the boondocks or a shooting event is stupid and as far as I'm concerned is basically saying "look at me"
Concealed carry is concealed and unless one is observant no one knows you are carrying. Some people are uncomfortably seeing a firearm and I respect their feelings; therefore I carry concealed.
The only time I would advocate for the open display of a firearm especially rifles is for a political message; as for example the gathering at the State Capital in Virginia.

Thief · Feb 20, 2020

I don't recall the name of the county in Texas
where they banned the carry of a side arm in bars

and the incident of injury to hospital.....soared

so.....back to carry of side arm in bars
and everyone calmed down

Wu Wei · Feb 20, 2020

Thief said:
I don't recall the name of the county in Texas
where they banned the carry of a side arm in bars

and the incident of injury to hospital.....soared

so.....back to carry of side arm in bars
and everyone calmed down

Worked with a man from Alaska many years ago, Alaska is an open carry state. He once told me there are 2 things that are big in Alaska; guns and drinking. He then said with all those armed drunks you'd think there would be a lot more shootings. He claimed there were next to none when he grew up there. Take into account this conversation occurred in the early 1990s so things could be different now

Thief · Feb 20, 2020

did you mean could?
as you posted.....cold

I bet it's still cold in Alaska

Wu Wei · Feb 20, 2020

Thief said:
did you mean could?
as you posted.....cold

I bet it's still cold in Alaska

No I didn't mean cold, that is why I typed could.....you need to get your vision checked

But if it helps it is currently 11 degrees Fahrenheit in Fairbanks Alaska, where the guy was from

Woberts · Feb 20, 2020

Good, libertarian trash like her deserve to be harassed.

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