I assume by human waste, you are including all the products of our activities beyond bodily waste. Which I would include in that as well.
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What if humans never existed?
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WhyIsThatSo
Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure that when you live in a world where every living thing MUST KILL another living thing
in order to stay "alive"...
that there will inevitably be a "top dog".
SoyLeche
meh...
One that likely has parasites that will cause its premature death and bugs and bacteria that will feast on its corpse.
The world would be a better place as it was before humans. The world did fine for billions of years without humans
Dung beetles
No! That's not how ecology works. Predator's lives are precarious. They depend on the availability of prey, who's populations vary and who move about seasonally, and any small injury that impaired a predator's hunting ability, could be fatal.
What do you mean by "dominate?" Do lions dominate hunting dogs? How about hyenas, or leopards? Why must a single predator dominate? Each specializes in a particular hunting style or prey. There may be "top" predators in some places, but none are kings.
There have been predators for hundreds of million years. They've always existed in equilibrium with their prey, otherwise they'd become extinct.
Alternate animal? Alternate to what?
The natural balance is always in flux; always changing to meet environmental changes.
Seriously? When has waste ever been a problem? One creature's waste is another's treasure. Waste is food and fertilizer.
Nature functioned quite well, for several billion years, before we came along just yesterday..
Thief
Rogue Theologian
the world is covered in poop
have you seen youtube?
and have you seen?...Planet of the Apes
There are forests, swamps, and other areas where very few humans live, but there are still many animals.
Most of the oil comes from *before* the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs contributed very little (if at all) to the oil reserves. Most of the oil was produced by decaying plants.
Saying that dinosaurs were at the top of the food chain is like saying that carnivores or primates are the top of the food chain. The term 'dinosaur' encompasses hundreds (if not thousands) of different species. Some were meat-eating, some were plant-eating. Some were big, and some were small.
Probably not all that bad. They didn't have chemical factories or agriculture to put massive amounts of pollutants into the water. The poop would have mostly stayed local and been fertilizer for the plants. Go to any forest. You will see feces around, but nothing like what you seem to be imagining.
Cooky
Veteran Member
So would losing dinosaurs be like losing mammals?
SoyLeche
meh...
Like losing most mammals with the rest eventually evolving into birds...
Hidingfromyou
Member
Neanderthals! Unless you mean "no hominin." Then I'd go with chimps probably. Unless you mean no great apes. Then I'd guess it'd be a while before something evolved to have language, but it'd evolve from a social species that can use tools.
Hidingfromyou
Member
I like your tagline about "when a man wants proof..."
If only I'd known that years ago when I started "debating" the religious!
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Pigs are very intelligent though, one of the most intelligent species. Capable of showing care, morality and deception, almost human...
But slow roasted in honey... Yum
Not exactly, but close enough. Dinosaurs were very diverse.
For all their dominance and the impressive size of many, they eventually chickened out.
I plead guilty.