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The Souls of God

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I read this on another site.

"Satan doesn’t kill anyone. He only takes care of the souls God don’t want to keep with him."

Things that make you go hm.
Define "kill" in light of "The thief comes not but to kill, steal and destroy" John 10:10 and "He is a murderer" John 8:44
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
Who knows and declares the real Jesus but only the father who sent him?

(Rom. 1:3-4) "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"

(1John 1:3) "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

(1John 1:5) "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all...if we walk in the light, as he is int the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

We who are Christian know and declare the real Jesus.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I read this on another site.

"Satan doesn’t kill anyone. He only takes care of the souls God don’t want to keep with him."

Things that make you go hm.

Satan does kill....Satan seeks out those that he can be easily deceived by deception into believing in him..
Satan doesn't care about the body of flesh and blood...Satan goes after a person soul to destroy...once Satan has accomplished that then your destroyed never to exist again.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
(Rom. 1:3-4) "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"

(1John 1:3) "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

(1John 1:5) "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all...if we walk in the light, as he is int the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

We who are Christian know and declare the real Jesus.

Good-Ole-Rebel

I have a question about Romans 1:3-4.
If you notice at the bottom of verse 4.
( By the resurrection from the dead)

Have any clue or idea who the dead are?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
It seems pretty self-evident. The dead are all that have died. Do I misunderstand your question?

Good-Ole-Rebel

The dead in the Bible doesn't always refer to those as being dead in the graves.

There are those in bible that are refered to the spiritual dead....like Atheist and such are refered to as being dead unto God..

Therefore when Jesus Christ was resurrected among the Dead..this being the spiritual dead. Not believing in Jesus Christ thereby being dead to Jesus Christ and God.
A non-believer in the Bible are refered to as being spiritually dead to God.
having no belief in God or believe in God..being dead to God.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
(Rom. 1:3-4) "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"

(1John 1:3) "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

(1John 1:5) "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all...if we walk in the light, as he is int the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

We who are Christian know and declare the real Jesus.

Good-Ole-Rebel

You're god?

I thought only gods father knows his son?

Anyone can quote the Bible. Satan masks himself as an angel of light. Why should I believe you declare the real Jesus more than the Christian beside you who says the exact same thing?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Satan does kill....Satan seeks out those that he can be easily deceived by deception into believing in him..
Satan doesn't care about the body of flesh and blood...Satan goes after a person soul to destroy...once Satan has accomplished that then your destroyed never to exist again.

The context is death takes souls god doesn't want.

Whether Satan kills or not, I don't know. The idea of Satan sounds highly paganistic and unrealistic that it's hard to speak real of it outside metaphor etc.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
As I said, you don't see Him rightly. And, He doesn't teach dhama....whatever that is.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Dharma is righteousness, righteous law, "doing the right thing", among other meanings.

No, I don't see him as judge, jury and executioner if that's what you think the right way to see him is. That is a perversion and bastardization of him, his image and his mission, not to mention and insult to him, and a disservice to his followers. Why people need a God to rule them, issue commandments, and mete out judgement and punishment is beyond me. That's not any kind of God I would or do worship.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Weirdly enough, there are buddhists who believe that kind of stuff.
I once lived in a Tibetan Buddhist community which was primarily gelugpa, and some of them believed stuff like ‘if you insult a bodhisattva you will have 500 rebirths as a dog’ and similar nonsense.

Yeah, some stuff is really "out there". Superstition infects everything. Hinduism also has no shortage of superstitious silliness.
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
The dead in the Bible doesn't always refer to those as being dead in the graves.

There are those in bible that are refered to the spiritual dead....like Atheist and such are refered to as being dead unto God..

Therefore when Jesus Christ was resurrected among the Dead..this being the spiritual dead. Not believing in Jesus Christ thereby being dead to Jesus Christ and God.
A non-believer in the Bible are refered to as being spiritually dead to God.
having no belief in God or believe in God..being dead to God.

Resurrection in the Bible always speaks to physical resurrection.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
You're god?

I thought only gods father knows his son?

Anyone can quote the Bible. Satan masks himself as an angel of light. Why should I believe you declare the real Jesus more than the Christian beside you who says the exact same thing?

You shouldn't. Believe whoever you want.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
Dharma is righteousness, righteous law, "doing the right thing", among other meanings.

No, I don't see him as judge, jury and executioner if that's what you think the right way to see him is. That is a perversion and bastardization of him, his image and his mission, not to mention and insult to him, and a disservice to his followers. Why people need a God to rule them, issue commandments, and mete out judgement and punishment is beyond me. That's not any kind of God I would or do worship.

Then you don't want anything having to do with God or Jesus Christ. Which is fine. You don't have to. Enjoy your faith.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The context is death claims souls god doesn't want.

I'm not sure how those verses relate to the context of the statement?
It does run contrary to the scriptures where it was written that God wanted all to be saved.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
You shouldn't. Believe whoever you want.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Cutting the conversation short doesn't help. Mind as well not have any conversation with a person.

Another way to phrase it.

Is there a logical reason any person will believe you?

Only god the father can declare his son?

How is this wrong?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Resurrection in the Bible always speaks to physical resurrection.

Good-Ole-Rebel

The Bible does not always speak about a physical Resurrection.
The resurrection of the dead.. are those that are spiritually dead..
This is not a physical dead..but a spiritually dead.
Do you know what the difference is.
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
Cutting the conversation short doesn't help. Mind as well not have any conversation with a person.

Another way to phrase it.

Is there a logical reason any person will believe you?

Only god the father can declare his son?

How is this wrong?

I just showed you Scripture that Christians declare Jesus Christ the Son. You don't believe them. That's as far as I can go. Feel free to reject all that I have said and all that Scripture says.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
The Bible does not always speak about a physical Resurrection.
The resurrection of the dead.. are those that are spiritually dead..
This is not a physical dead..but a spiritually dead.
Do you know what the difference is.

I just told you that resurrection always speaks to physical resurrection in the Bible.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 
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