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Ask me stuff about the bible?

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
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No it is an answer to your question and it is not misleading whatsoever. How do you think that the post I provided does not directly answer your question when you have been provided scripture showing that man kind was made in the image of God and that we have free will and the power to choose who we believe and follow? Are you being honest? :)
You certainly have mastered straw man arguments. I did not ask You if man was created perfect. I asked you to explain how perfect mankind was susceptible to temptation, disobedience and sin. You can twist this as much as you li ke, but I know what I am asking and I know what you are doing to avoid answering.
 

sciatica

Notable Member
Then provide the answer again. Maybe others missed it too

I'll repeat my question just for you.

If man was made perfect, how is it that they were susceptible to temptation, disobedience and sin? Does your failure to respond with a direct answer indicate that you agree? It certainly could be seen that way.
He might have found your question too boring to answer.
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
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We will have to agree to disagree. What do you think being made in the image of God means and what is free will and choice for and how do you think this relates to temptation and sin? :)
I do not agree. You were asked questions and you did not answer them while claiming you did. I will not join you in sin to satisfy your pride and ego.
 

3rdAngel

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3rdAngel said: We will have to agree to disagree. What do you think being made in the image of God means and what is free will and choice for and how do you think this relates to temptation and sin?
Your response...
I do not agree. You were asked questions and you did not answer them while claiming you did. I will not join you in sin to satisfy your pride and ego.
Told you that you were not here for a discussion. If you believe I have not answered your question I asked you why you do not believe I have answered your question in the very post you are quoting from. I can see you have no intention in having a discussion. Your only showing I am correct especially when I have already shown you from the scriptures in GENESIS 1:26 that mankind was made in the image of God and that he has given us free will and choice to choose. :)
 

3rdAngel

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I do not agree. You were asked questions and you did not answer them while claiming you did. I will not join you in sin to satisfy your pride and ego.
I see, so what sin do you accuse me of and if you cannot prove I have sinned why are you making claims that are not true? Does this not concern you? It should :)
 

Dan From Smithville

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Your response...

Told you that you were not here for a discussion. :)
Answering a question with a question is not an answer. You requested questions. I have asked questions. You have refused to answer them. You have no other evidence for my participation. I have exercised some tenacity, but given your state of hostility, that is warranted.
 

3rdAngel

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Answering a question with a question is not an answer. You requested questions. I have asked questions. You have refused to answer them. You have no other evidence for my participation. I have exercised some tenacity, but given your state of hostility, that is warranted.

Sorry did you say something? Once again in answer to your question you were shown from the scriptures that mankind was made perfect in the image of God without sin and given a free will and the power to choose and make their own decisions. If you believe this does not answer your question I asked you what do you think being made in the image of God means and what is free will and choice for and how do you think this relates to temptation and sin? I asked you this question to show that your claims are not true. Your question has indeed been answered you simply do not like the answer and you do not want to discuss it. :)
 

Dan From Smithville

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I see, so what sin do you accuse me of and if you cannot prove I have sinned does this not concern you? It should :)
I will leave you to deal with your personal frailty on your own. You should be concerned for your own actions here.

There is still the matter of some unanswered questions. That you refuse to answer them and created this charade is one thing, but your persistence in your own moral superiority speaks volumes. Even in your refusal to answer my questions and your attempts to suborn perjury from me, you have given me information.

Thank you so very much. I bid you a glorious evening. It has been a great discussion.
 

3rdAngel

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I will leave you to deal with your personal frailty on your own. You should be concerned for your own actions here.

There is still the matter of some unanswered questions. That you refuse to answer them and created this charade is one thing, but your persistence in your own moral superiority speaks volumes. Even in your refusal to answer my questions and your attempts to suborn perjury from me, you have given me information.

Thank you so very much. I bid you a glorious evening. It has been a great discussion.

I do not need to say much here Dan. God is my witness here and you are not my judge. I thought you would end up runing away again when your claims were challenged. Ok I enjoyed our discussion although I already knew you were never here to have one. Have a nice night :)
 
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sciatica

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Perhaps. I cannot read his heart and mind. All I know is he claims he did answer them when he did not. Your post indicates that you do not think he answered them either.
it just reminds me how aggressive people can get asking questions. as if they are a prosecution lawyer interrogating the witness. or like a police interrogation.
 

3rdAngel

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People can be equally aggressive at evading answers to questions as witnessed here.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. God is my witness as I only share his Word and His Word bears witness to my words that they are true and honest. You on the other hand only provide your own words which are not of God but are from you, but I think you know this already. Only wishing you all the best my friend :).
 
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osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I'll ask again since my post disappeared.

How do you know you are following God and not just yourself and your own interpretation of God?

What is God's justice, attributes and character according to the Bible?
 

3rdAngel

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I'll ask again since my post disappeared.
Hi Os, welcome and sorry to see your post got lost.
How do you know you are following God and not just yourself and your own interpretation of God?
Great question. The scriptures are very clear that God's people are defined as all those who believe and follow God's Word *JOHN 10:26-28. The scripture clearly says that by our fruits is how we know God or not *MATTHEW 7:13-27. If you want to talk specifics? Your question is actually directly answered and shown in the scriptures here... *1 JOHN 2:3-4; REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12 and REVELATION 22:14. Question for you personally is what do you think these scriptures mean (no need to answer this question here if you do not wish to)?
What is God's justice, attributes and character according to the Bible?
My understanding according to the scriptures is that, God is love and God's love is demonstrated through obedience to God's 10 commandments which are also our duty of love to God (first four) and our duty of love to our fellow man (second six) *1 JOHN 4:16; MATTHEW 22:36-40; ROMANS 13:8-10; 1 JOHN 5:3. We cannot love however unless we are born again as we believe and follow God's Word *JOHN 3:3-7; 1 JOHN 3:4-9. Sin (breaking God's law) is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10. God so loved us that he gave us his only son to die the death that we deserve to die so that if we believe in him (his Word) we will never perish but have everlasting life. God's salvation is from sin as we continue in God's Word *JOHN 8:31-36 and the what gives us the victory to overcome the world is our faith in God's Word *1 JOHN 5:4. God is not willing that anyone should perish but that everyone should be saved. This however according to the scriptures will not happen as many are called but few are chosen because men love darkness rather then the truth (light) because they love evil (sin) *MATTHEW 22:14; JOHN 3:16-21. Sadly at the second coming many will find out too late that they will not enter into God's kingdom because they rejected the gift of God's dear son and did not believe and follow God's Word *ROMANS 6:23; ACTS 17:30-31; HEBREWS 10:26-39

Hope this is helpful Os and nice to meet you :)
 
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Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. God is my witness as I only share his Word and His Word bears witness to my words that they are true and honest. You on the other hand only provide your own words which are not of God but are from you, but I think you know this already. Only wishing you all the best my friend :).
I have seen only your words and tactics. I saw no truth and honesty in them. You have no means to know if God is in my words. You cast your eyes quickly away in fear and false witness. As to your words, God has no need of the tactics you so easily employed. By your fruits, I have come to know you.

I might wish you the best, but I see the path you have chosen and am saddened. Whether it is too late for you, is up to you.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Hi Os, welcome and sorry to see your post got lost.

Great question. The scriptures are very clear that God's people are defined as all those who believe and follow God's Word *JOHN 10:26-28. The scripture clearly says that by our fruits is how we know God or not *MATTHEW 7:13-27. If you want to talk specifics? Your question is actually directly answered and shown in the scriptures here... *1 JOHN 2:3-4; REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12 and REVELATION 22:14. Question for you personally is what do you think these scriptures mean (no need to answer this question here if you do not wish to)?

My understanding according to the scriptures is that, God is love and God's love is demonstrated through obedience to God's 10 commandments which are also our duty of love to God (first four) and our duty of love to our fellow man (second six) *1 JOHN 4:16; MATTHEW 22:36-40; ROMANS 13:8-10; 1 JOHN 5:3. We cannot love however unless we are born again as we believe and follow God's Word *JOHN 3:3-7; 1 JOHN 3:4-9. Sin (breaking God's law) is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10. God so loved us that he gave us his only son to die the death that we deserve to die so that if we believe in him (his Word) we will never perish but have everlasting life. God's salvation is from sin as we continue in God's Word *JOHN 8:31-36 and the what gives us the victory to overcome the world is our faith in God's Word *1 JOHN 5:4. God is not willing that anyone should perish but that everyone should be saved. This however according to the scriptures will not happen as many are called but few are chosen because men love darkness rather then the truth (light) because they love evil (sin) *MATTHEW 22:14; JOHN 3:16-21. Sadly at the second coming many will find out too late that they will not enter into God's kingdom because they rejected the gift of God's dear son and did not believe and follow God's Word *ROMANS 6:23; ACTS 17:30-31; HEBREWS 10:26-39

Hope this is helpful Os and nice to meet you :)

At face value it only makes sense to abide in the truth. If you can't or won't then what is left? Remaining neutral or running contrary, or becoming oblivious.

How do you know that you know that you have the truth? The spirit bares witness that you have the qualities of love.

Often times duties our things that you must do, but may not have any will to do them other then you must do them.

Thanks for the hospitality!:)

Another question, Do the Scriptures imply that non believers do not love? Or perhaps love in err?

How do you determine which love is the genuine love, and which love is less than genuine?
 

3rdAngel

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Another question, Do the Scriptures imply that non believers do not love? Or perhaps love in err?
No worries Os. According to the scriptures even in those who profess to be "believers" there can be wheat (true believers) and tares (name only). No one can know who they are for sure accept God. We are not to judge others accept according to righteous judgment (according to God's Word) it says you will know them (believers) by their fruit (what they do). I believe that according to the scripture no one has God's love in them unless God gives us a new heart to love *JEREMIAH 31:31-36; HEBREWS 8:10-12 which is God's new covenant promise to all those who believe and follow God's Word. This is why it is written unless we are born again we cannot enter into the kingdom of Heaven *JOHN 3:3-7; JOHN 5:42. Love cannot be separated from obedience to God's Law *MATTHEW 22:36-40; ROMANS 13:8-10 as it is through obedience (the fruit) through faith *1 JOHN 5:4 that God works in us to will and to do of his own good pleasure *PHILIPPIANS 2:13. Only God can change our hearts to love and love is the fulfilling of God's law in those who believe God's Word *1 JOHN 5:4; ROMANS 13:8-10.
How do you determine which love is the genuine love, and which love is less than genuine?
This is part answered in the previous post and scriptures shared earlier. The scripture clearly says that by our fruits is how we know God or not *MATTHEW 7:13-27. Your question is actually directly answered and shown in the scriptures here... *1 JOHN 2:3-4; REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12 and REVELATION 22:14. But even in this there can be a counterfeit. Genuine obedience is through faith in God's Word that works by love *GALATIANS 5:6. Love is the fulfilling of God's LAW in all those who believe and follow God's Word *ROMANS 13:8-10; JAMES 2:8-11; MATTHEW 22:36-40; This is God's new covenant promise of a new heart to love to all those who believe Gods' Word *HEBREWS 8:10-12.

blessings :)
 
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3rdAngel

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I have seen only your words and tactics. I saw no truth and honesty in them. You have no means to know if God is in my words. You cast your eyes quickly away in fear and false witness. As to your words, God has no need of the tactics you so easily employed. By your fruits, I have come to know you. I might wish you the best, but I see the path you have chosen and am saddened. Whether it is too late for you, is up to you.

My friend, we will have to agree to disagree. If you cannot see God's truth then you have simply closed your eyes to it. You have not shared Gods' Word here so your words are only your own. I do not judge you. It is the Word of God that will be our judge come judgement day *JOHN 12:47-48. I wish you only God's blessings as you seek him through his Word. Ignoring God's Word does not make it disappear :)
 
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