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Would God allow a false prophet to claim a new Law and commandments?

Ayjaydee

Active Member
I do not need anyone bolster my beliefs in God. They are standing firm.
If you are looking for statistics, 93% of people in the world believe in a God or gods as evidenced by the number of atheists in the world...

According to sociologists ArielaKeysar and Juhem Navarro-Rivera's review of numerous global studies on atheism, there are 450 to 500 million positive atheists and agnostics worldwide (7% of the world's population), with China having the most atheists in the world (200 million convinced atheists).Demographics of atheism - Wikipedia

Not that it matters how many people believe, since God either exists or not.
And yet you're the one who used a number to reinforce the validity of the existence of a god! Lol
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
And yet you're the one who used a number to reinforce the validity of the existence of a god! Lol
Nope, I never did that. I only said that 84% of people have a religion, but not everyone who has a religion believes in God.

Not that it matters because God either exists or not, and numbers of believers do not make God exist.
If not one person believed in God, God would still exist, if God existed.
Conversely, if everyone in the world believed in God, God would not exist if God did not exist.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Well, if you're sticking with those points, I dont have one

If "religion" is a POV about where we come from, why
we are here, who has moral authority, who has the
requisite wisdom, where we are going, are there
moral laws or not, where does it all end, how did it
start, is there life after death or not, who or what do
we worship, what are our idols etc then I guess every
one has a form of religion.
Whether it's philosophically, intellectually or morally
consistent is another matter.
 

Ayjaydee

Active Member
If "religion" is a POV about where we come from, why
we are here, who has moral authority, who has the
requisite wisdom, where we are going, are there
moral laws or not, where does it all end, how did it
start, is there life after death or not, who or what do
we worship, what are our idols etc then I guess every
one has a form of religion.
Whether it's philosophically, intellectually or morally
consistent is another matter.
I dont
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Nope
I think about important things

Yes, that's what makes some people happy - the important things
in their lives are not deep. We have a cat who has his priorities well
defined - pat, scratch, cuddle, feed, sleep and drink. Plus the occasional
fight in the back lane. He's not bothered about much else, particularly
since he's been spaded. He's not going to lose sleep about where the
quantum field came from or whether Trump is going to get re-elected.
 

Ayjaydee

Active Member
Yes, that's what makes some people happy - the important things
in their lives are not deep. We have a cat who has his priorities well
defined - pat, scratch, cuddle, feed, sleep and drink. Plus the occasional
fight in the back lane. He's not bothered about much else, particularly
since he's been spaded. He's not going to lose sleep about where the
quantum field came from or whether Trump is going to get re-elected.
The important things in my life are deep
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
I am not asking if God allows a false prophet just to claim to be a prophet of God! I believe He does allow such false prophets.

But, would God allow a false prophet to come up with certain commands and laws by himself, and claim he is revealing commandments, decrees, ordinances and laws from God and demand everyone to obey and follow his book, he claims to be from God?


Quran says, it cannot happen:


"And if the apostle were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart" Quran 69:44-46

If you believe in Jesus, or Yahiwa, but you don't believe Muhammad, what was Jesus or God doing, when Muhammad was claiming such things. Why your God didnt cut Muhammad's heart artery so, he doesnt misguide them?


What does your scriptures say? If you believe in a God, but no scriptures, you can still bring your reasoning, why would the Powerful and All knowing you believe, allow, someone speak on His behalf, and make them obey a commandments, thereby allowing His people to get misguided?

Quran lies.

Read this:

Matthew 13:24-29

2 Timothy 4:3-4

1. God does not prevent people from following false prophets
2. God also allows evil to exist alongside good

As to why, we have this passage:

Isaiah 45:7
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I am not asking if God allows a false prophet just to claim to be a prophet of God! I believe He does allow such false prophets.

But, would God allow a false prophet to come up with certain commands and laws by himself, and claim he is revealing commandments, decrees, ordinances and laws from God and demand everyone to obey and follow his book, he claims to be from God?


Quran says, it cannot happen:


"And if the apostle were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart" Quran 69:44-46

If you believe in Jesus, or Yahiwa, but you don't believe Muhammad, what was Jesus or God doing, when Muhammad was claiming such things. Why your God didnt cut Muhammad's heart artery so, he doesnt misguide them?


What does your scriptures say? If you believe in a God, but no scriptures, you can still bring your reasoning, why would the Powerful and All knowing you believe, allow, someone speak on His behalf, and make them obey a commandments, thereby allowing His people to get misguided?

Maitreya - why don't you follow him then!
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
I am not asking if God allows a false prophet just to claim to be a prophet of God! I believe He does allow such false prophets.

But, would God allow a false prophet to come up with certain commands and laws by himself, and claim he is revealing commandments, decrees, ordinances and laws from God and demand everyone to obey and follow his book, he claims to be from God?


Quran says, it cannot happen:


"And if the apostle were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart" Quran 69:44-46

If you believe in Jesus, or Yahiwa, but you don't believe Muhammad, what was Jesus or God doing, when Muhammad was claiming such things. Why your God didnt cut Muhammad's heart artery so, he doesnt misguide them?


What does your scriptures say? If you believe in a God, but no scriptures, you can still bring your reasoning, why would the Powerful and All knowing you believe, allow, someone speak on His behalf, and make them obey a commandments, thereby allowing His people to get misguided?

God warns us of false prophets. Satan is the one who tempts us with false prophets. God allows false prophets because of free will. In this fallen world, to have true prophets, then we have to have false ones. Thus, you are the one who is misguided and didn't listen to his warning.

Anyway, Satan has written his Antibible with ToE, evolutionary thinking and history. They are all based on Satan's lies as they all contradict what God has stated in the Bible. Moreover, Satan is a master of masquerade. God has warned us to be aware of this masquerade. Many people will be fooled as this is what God has warned. The best we can do is remain true to God's word and thus not be fooled.
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
I am not asking if God allows a false prophet just to claim to be a prophet of God! I believe He does allow such false prophets.

But, would God allow a false prophet to come up with certain commands and laws by himself, and claim he is revealing commandments, decrees, ordinances and laws from God and demand everyone to obey and follow his book, he claims to be from God?


Quran says, it cannot happen:


"And if the apostle were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart" Quran 69:44-46

If you believe in Jesus, or Yahiwa, but you don't believe Muhammad, what was Jesus or God doing, when Muhammad was claiming such things. Why your God didnt cut Muhammad's heart artery so, he doesnt misguide them?


What does your scriptures say? If you believe in a God, but no scriptures, you can still bring your reasoning, why would the Powerful and All knowing you believe, allow, someone speak on His behalf, and make them obey a commandments, thereby allowing His people to get misguided?

Modern cult leaders do this all the time. They claim to be from God and then make new laws that apply to their followers, often involving sexual activities. Groups such as the Unification Church, the Children of God and the Anabaptist of shoot lead by Jan Matthias had leaders who claimed to be either prophets or Messiahs and told their followers that God gave them new commandments.

The Bible does say that there will be false Christs and prophets which is no surprise.

The aims of the leaders of these groups is to indoctrinate and control people, and get them to fulfill their own wishes.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Humans, especially males in groups, who invented the state of science, to force change to natural, are making all the claims.

As a human.

They claim that the human being is superior to God....having said O God is the stone and a planet, whose history of destruction from an eternal state to its evolved state was described by the male research of our planet O Earth, the stone body.

They stand living on a stone body inside of a stone body release of its owned hot gases that cooled in the state of space. So males always said, space is a Creator of evolution, a growth of change. Meaning to change by cooling.

How science described space actually as a condition of his owned research, to invent science.

Now he also knows that God the Earth is an eruptive/destructive body....so first says and God is destructive, as a rational male applied thinking concept.

Seeing he owns no life anywhere else...accept as a human standing on Planet Earth.

Now if a male told his own self first that God O the stone is destructive by its own accord/volition, then why did he invent conversion science? What he described as being a false Prophet, Satanism itself...as against his own natural living conditions.

For if a male says, the Earth was Sun blasted when it collapsed, the knowledge how to convert by UFO mass metallic radiation....being evil. Said the Earth was saved in spatial cooling by wandering asteroid star stone mass release. Then he changed it....then gained new stone attacks on Earth....then he always knew exactly what information preceded change to God from learning.

For if he first looked at Earth history and said Earth was SUN METAL UFO ARK attacked, that carbonized the Earth stone...being a form of wooden idealism. And it was under water when he researched o UFO mass ^ mountain tip disintegration and flat top of mountain, science vision/theme.

Then applied science and then Earth revealed to him everything he never knew about pre Earth history lurking under that water mass.....then it was when he learnt and discussed false Prophets of stone.
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
Islam is a world religion founded by a Prophet of God who had an independent revelation from God through the Angel Gabriel. It is not founded on the Jewish/Christian holy books just because Muhammad referred to them. It has more validity than the Book of Mormon because Joseph Smith was not a Prophet of God.

Well, firstly evidence points to the Quran having its roots in Christian and Jewish storues floating around at the time. For instance Jesus childhood miracles feature in apocraphal stories. The story and phrase about "if you kill one man it is as if you are killing the whole of mankind" comes from a cain and abel story of Jewish origin.

Why would you say that Joseph Smith was a false prophet and in what sense does the Book of Mormon have less validity than the Quran?

Also, Muhammed got his revelation, not directly from God, but from an angel claiming to speak on Gods behalf. Plus the angel was pretty forceful when trying to get him to recite and he feared it. The only reason why believed the angel was from God was because some random nestorian Christian said it was so. How then do we know that the angel spoke on Gods behalf?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Wots the evidence?
Caring Creator O God the Earth, stone philosophy.

Natural gas mass, natural light, supportive of natural nature and natural human male before science invention, forced change.

Natural.

Males then applies forced change, machine reaction, pyramid science. What males on Earth claim was first Earth science technology a very long time ago. With human artefact proof found in the wooden Ark formation.....coal.

Where the body of Earth had continental shifted its mass....to be found beneath the ground. How it got placed there as a technology that was once practiced above ground.

Burns the night time clear light sky. Earth by male science theory owned D 12 natural day light. And D clear night time 12 sky.

Highest atmospheric God body.....night time clear without light 12 sky.

Male in natural life living in natural day light D 12 day light.

Then burnt the night time sky as opposition to self ….to want day light 12 sky to be light removed. Instead he opposed the highest state and named it EVEN balances to EVE...and said in a confession recorded by biblical literature...the ancient sciences that he burnt the night time evening sky...and removed God the Earth natural balances.

And told you so.
The first named prophet in the Bible is Abraham. In Genesis 20:7
Gen 15:13-14 Then He said to Abram: "Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. "And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions.

When you read the detail is a contradictory statement for it says that the state of Sodom and Gomorrah was chosen by humanity...and then Abraham would destroy it and remove it, and then life would change. Yet that status would still afflict!

What the meaning of False Prophet is...for since when do you destroy to claim it righteous...when the statement Sodom and Gomorrah says, chosen by man first?

The argument who would choose to deprave self and mind, unless you never knew what depravity was as a spiriutal innocent, until you irradiated your life mind and body by science radiation conditions?

How the story was actually taught in a human chosen science history.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Caring Creator O God the Earth, stone philosophy.

Natural gas mass, natural light, supportive of natural nature and natural human male before science invention, forced change.

Natural.

Males then applies forced change, machine reaction, pyramid science. What males on Earth claim was first Earth science technology a very long time ago. With human artefact proof found in the wooden Ark formation.....coal.

Where the body of Earth had continental shifted its mass....to be found beneath the ground. How it got placed there as a technology that was once practiced above ground.

Burns the night time clear light sky. Earth by male science theory owned D 12 natural day light. And D clear night time 12 sky.

Highest atmospheric God body.....night time clear without light 12 sky.

Male in natural life living in natural day light D 12 day light.

Then burnt the night time sky as opposition to self ….to want day light 12 sky to be light removed. Instead he opposed the highest state and named it EVEN balances to EVE...and said in a confession recorded by biblical literature...the ancient sciences that he burnt the night time evening sky...and removed God the Earth natural balances.

And told you so.
The first named prophet in the Bible is Abraham. In Genesis 20:7
Gen 15:13-14 Then He said to Abram: "Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. "And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions.

When you read the detail is a contradictory statement for it says that the state of Sodom and Gomorrah was chosen by humanity...and then Abraham would destroy it and remove it, and then life would change. Yet that status would still afflict!

What the meaning of False Prophet is...for since when do you destroy to claim it righteous...when the statement Sodom and Gomorrah says, chosen by man first?

The argument who would choose to deprave self and mind, unless you never knew what depravity was as a spiriutal innocent, until you irradiated your life mind and body by science radiation conditions?

How the story was actually taught in a human chosen science history.

Not sure what you are trying to say here.
 
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