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Things like this make the world rotten.

Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Its not like the pilot deliberately chose to dump fuel when amd where it was. Considering the fact of engine failure, it is procedure to dump fuel for an emergency landing. There is the question that planes are at a higher altitude when dumping fuel, however this pilot did have the safety amd lives of over 100 people directly tied to the outcome of that emergency. I can easily see it being an oversight with such an immediate and imminent danger, with one risk up front and clear, requiring immediate action, the other risk being far below, and out of sight, entirely out of mind.
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Jonathan Bailey said:
We also need to figure out whose FAULT this emergency was? Whose fault was it that the engine even failed in the first place?

How much money should each and every child doused with fuel receive for damages?

One million dollars?

I would be calling up law firms as quick as a flash. Delta can't get away with murder like this. Justice must be served. There could be a class action.
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Murder?
Who died?
Again, I ask what familiarity you have with airline safety.

If government followed your lead, & bankrupted every airline which
had an accident (even one with no deaths), we'd have no air travel.
So you should re-think this fire & brimstone no tolerance policy...
...it only enriches the lawyers.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Jonathan Bailey said:
We also need to figure out whose FAULT this emergency was? Whose fault was it that the engine even failed in the first place?
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It could have been a bird that got caught in the engine. It could just be that engines and their parts and pieces do wear out and break down. For all we know it could have started with a solder that went bad and weakened a connection.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Jonathan Bailey said:
We also need to figure out whose FAULT this emergency was? Whose fault was it that the engine even failed in the first place?

How much money should each and every child doused with fuel receive for damages?

One million dollars?

I would be calling up law firms as quick as a flash. Delta can't get away with murder like this. Justice must be served. There could be a class action.
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Sometimes, even with the best maintenance engines fail. Why assume that someone was at fault.

For now let's assume that it was an accident. Delta should have to pay for some baths and headache medicine. Done.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
Murder?
Who died?
Again, I ask what familiarity you have with airline safety.

If government followed your lead, & bankrupted every airline which
had an accident (even one with no deaths), we'd have no air travel.
So you should re-think this fire & brimstone no tolerance policy...
...it only enriches the lawyers.
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Aah, the good old days of traveling by rail. And what happened to all of those zeppelins? That seems to be a reasonable alternative to me:D
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Subduction Zone said:
Aah, the good old days of traveling by rail. And what happened to all of those zeppelins? That seems to be a reasonable alternative to me:D
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Even those were known to have the occasional accident.
I guess he'd have us travel only by bicycle, car, motorcycle,
or bus on public roads because...uh oh....those are even
more dangerous. We should just stay home....oh, wait...aren't
most accidents in the home? I give up. We're doomed!
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Mindmaster said:
Happens all of the time... However, usually this is done at altitude and not over civilian areas (unless it's a real emergency). A plane can actually have too much weight to land and they are dumping it for that reason. Planes these days can take off at a much heavier weight than they can land at and usually this is why they are really careful just to put enough fuel + a sensible reserve in it. That being said mistakes get made and if the flight crew doesn't dump the fuel they will crash the plane. Fuel is _always_ dumped in the case where there is an on-board emergency and the plane has to immediately turn around -- there is simply no way it can land with full tanks without destroying the plane. Essentially, this is working as intended... The real mistake is that this was done over a residential area -- that's not the correct procedure. :D
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I understand that dumping fuel is often necessary. So if this was simply a miscalculation, then fair enough. Everyone makes mistakes. Though perhaps not always with such drastic consequences as this one lol
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McBell

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Jonathan Bailey said:
FAA investigating Delta jet fuel-dumping on schoolkids

Delta Airlines should be summarily sued out of business by those who were dumped on.

Not only does fuel hurt people on the ground it hurts the environment as well.
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Perhaps we should wait for the FAA to conclude their investigation?
Or perhaps you have some special insight that not even the FAA has?

Jonathan Bailey said:
I hate Delta anyway. I flew with them once only ,in 1999, and will never do it again. They put me through several hours of hell at the airport in Atlanta when I tried to recover my expensive prescription sunglasses I left on the plane by mistake. How hard is it for somebody to walk onto the stupid plane and see if my glasses were left on the seat where I was sitting? After a lot of hell, getting on the telephone even, I finally got the stupid things back. I like Southwest much better. My mother always told me she hated Delta as she traveled a lot with her friend to the ruins of Mexico in the 1980's.
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Ah.
That explains the emotional rant.
 
McBell

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Jonathan Bailey said:
We also need to figure out whose FAULT this emergency was? Whose fault was it that the engine even failed in the first place?
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One wonders if you are sane enough to be embarrassed if it turns out that the kids released balloons, one or more of which gummed up the engine causing the problem and that the airlines is going to sue the schools, city, etc. for the damages caused?

Jonathan Bailey said:
How much money should each and every child doused with fuel receive for damages?
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$24.99

Jonathan Bailey said:
One million dollars?
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nope.
$24.99

Jonathan Bailey said:
I would be calling up law firms as quick as a flash. Delta can't get away with murder like this. Justice must be served. There could be a class action.
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Wow dude.
Seems you should slow down and get your blood pressure back under control.
Murder?
Wow, you really do not like Delta Airlines.
One might even think you like beards better
 
RabbiO

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
@Jonatham Bailey -

Given the comments by those who seem to know a whole lot more than you do about aviation, your remarks seem to reflect an unattractive combination of ignorance, arrogance, and an obsessive dislike of one particular airline that is further coloring your perspective of this matter.

The fact that you can't say, as Emily Latella would, "Never mind." speaks volumes.
 
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