Hippies

ChristineM · Jan 15, 2020

PureX said:
They don't. It's all scripted and produced like theater at some corporate headquarters fifteen states away. No one actually knows aunt Ethel because she doesn't exist. And then it's sent out to the thousands of stations all around the country that the corporation owns and operates, to be played as "local radio". And even if a live human sits at the mic, he/she has a play list that can't be deviated from.

Owning a radio station now days is like owning a car wash. You just maintain the equipment and collect the money.

Jolly good, there must be many Texan octogenarians very disappointed that their request is played in Montana

PureX · Jan 15, 2020

ChristineM said:
Jolly good, there must be many Texan octogenarians very disappointed that their request is played in Montana

The Texas octogenarian is a 20-something wanna-be actress in L.A. working for Big Mega-Buck Corp Media Consortium for $10 an hour, reading scripted radio shows into a computer.

ChristineM · Jan 15, 2020

PureX said:
The Texas octogenarian is a 20-something wanna-be actress in L.A. working for Big Mega-Buck Corp Media Consortium for $10 an hour, reading scripted radio shows into a computer.

Glad i live in france where i can pop into the local office/studio of FranceBleu or RFM and have a chat with the presenter.

Call them up, tell them of an upcoming event and they will plug it.

So maybe @BSM1 should send his demos to real local stations not in corporate USA

PureX · Jan 15, 2020

ChristineM said:
So maybe @BSM1 should send his demos to real local stations not in corporate USA

There aren't any, here, anymore. All the radio stations in the U.S. are owned by three conglomerates. And they're each desperately trying to swallow up, or run the other two out of business. Monopoly is the name of the Big Money Game that runs things here in the U.S., and it seems the rest of the world desperately wants to follow us into that abyss. Don't ask me why.

ChristineM · Jan 16, 2020

PureX said:
There aren't any, here, anymore. All the radio stations in the U.S. are owned by three conglomerates. And they're each desperately trying to swallow up, or run the other two out of business. Monopoly is the name of the Big Money Game that runs things here in the U.S., and it seems the rest of the world desperately wants to follow us into that abyss. Don't ask me why.

Nope. Not the rest of the world, there are several countries that dont do the lemming trick.

TagliatelliMonster · Jan 16, 2020

metis said:
It's been a half-century since the peak of the movement, but looking back what do you think about it? For some people, I know it's had a lasting effect, but for some others it's just a relatively meaningless blip in history. I have my opinions, but I'm interested in what others may think.

While you're contemplating this, hear's a tune that you might enjoy from that era:

While the culture was an "extreme" that was pretty much unsustainable right out the box in the long run, I think the basic core ideas they introduced have profoundly changed western culture on multiple fronts.

They had an extreme influence on arts and music.
But it also had profound sociological impact with awareness raising in terms of general tolerance, how we treat animals and one another, etc.

metis · Jan 16, 2020

TagliatelliMonster said:
While the culture was an "extreme" that was pretty much unsustainable right out the box in the long run, I think the basic core ideas they introduced have profoundly changed western culture on multiple fronts.

They had an extreme influence on arts and music.
But it also had profound sociological impact with awareness raising in terms of general tolerance, how we treat animals and one another, etc.

Well said, and I completely agree with you.

Valjean · Jan 16, 2020

TagliatelliMonster said:
While the culture was an "extreme" that was pretty much unsustainable right out the box in the long run, I think the basic core ideas they introduced have profoundly changed western culture on multiple fronts.

They had an extreme influence on arts and music.
But it also had profound sociological impact with awareness raising in terms of general tolerance, how we treat animals and one another, etc.

I don't think the core Hippie beliefs were new at all. They were pretty much the same ideals advocated 2,000 years ago in the Sermon on the Mount.

When Hippies actually tried to live all this peace, love and equality stuff, though, rather than just paying lip service to it on Sunday, they became very annoying to many on the Right, such as the "Moral Majority."

Come to think of it, the conservatives got pretty annoyed the first time round, too.

metis · Jan 17, 2020

Valjean said:
I don't think the core Hippie beliefs were new at all. They were pretty much the same ideals advocated 2,000 years ago in the Sermon on the Mount.

Ya beat me to the punch--shame on you!

Was Jesus our first world "hippie" with his constant emphasis on love ("agape", which in Greek means one lives out of love, not just has it)? Then there's Gandhi. Before him, Tolstoy and Thoreau.

Tambourine · Apr 2, 2020

I would say that we are still feeling the effects of the historical backlash against the Hippy movement, starting with the Reagan era.

metis · Apr 2, 2020

Tambourine said:
I would say that we are still feeling the effects of the historical backlash against the Hippy movement, starting with the Reagan era.

I hear ya, and I truly believe that is unfortunate as the hippies had some things to offer that I still feel were and are beneficial. Without actually being one, I always sympathized with them to a large extent and even adopted some ideals that I still use. .

Thanks for your opinion, and welcome here to RF.

Tambourine · Apr 2, 2020

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I was born too late and in the wrong country to appreciate the work of the Hippies.

In Central European history, I feel like the Hippy movement has always been overshadowed by the 1968 movement and the Prague Spring, both of which had a much more material impact on people over here. But I believe that all of these movements did not simply coincide with one another, but were of the same spirit.

BSM1 · Apr 2, 2020

Tambourine said:
Thank you for your thoughtful response. I was born too late and in the wrong country to appreciate the work of the Hippies.

In Central European history, I feel like the Hippy movement has always been overshadowed by the 1968 movement and the Prague Spring, both of which had a much more material impact on people over here. But I believe that all of these movements did not simply coincide with one another, but were of the same spirit.

There was no such thing as a "Hippie movement". This was a total media hype of a segment of dope-smoking, naked-dancing, concert-going discontented young people. Once they realized that the bills had to be paid, the "hippie movement" died on the vine.

Spirit of Light · Apr 2, 2020

metis said:
It's been a half-century since the peak of the movement, but looking back what do you think about it? For some people, I know it's had a lasting effect, but for some others it's just a relatively meaningless blip in history. I have my opinions, but I'm interested in what others may think.

While you're contemplating this, hear's a tune that you might enjoy from that era:

The music was better that time

At least in the beginning of the hippie era

Tambourine · Apr 2, 2020

BSM1 said:
There was no such thing as a "Hippie movement". This was a total media hype of a segment of dope-smoking, naked-dancing, concert-going discontented young people. Once they realized that the bills had to be paid, the "hippie movement" died on the vine.

Well, I haven't been there, so I'll defer to your first hand experience on the matter.

Valjean · Apr 2, 2020

BSM1 said:
There was no such thing as a "Hippie movement". This was a total media hype of a segment of dope-smoking, naked-dancing, concert-going discontented young people. Once they realized that the bills had to be paid, the "hippie movement" died on the vine.

I'm a Hippie, and I've always managed to pay my bills.

There have been lots of idealistic Hippie-like counter-culture movements over the years. The '60s Hippies supplanted the Beats as a generalized counter-culture, but soon splintered into a dozen different groups that became difficult for the media to keep track of.

Spirit of Light · Apr 2, 2020

Valjean said:
I'm a Hippie, and I've always managed to pay my bills.

There have been lots of idealistic Hippie-like counter-culture movements over the years. The '60s Hippies supplanted the Beats as a generalized counter-culture, but soon splintered into a Dozen different groups that became difficult for the media to keep track of.

Are you a happy hippie

I have a feeling you are

Valjean · Apr 2, 2020

A happy Hippie? Maybe a contented curmudgeon.

BSM1 · Apr 2, 2020

Valjean said:
I'm a Hippie, and I've always managed to pay my bills.

There have been lots of idealistic Hippie-like counter-culture movements over the years. The '60s Hippies supplanted the Beats as a generalized counter-culture, but soon splintered into a dozen different groups that became difficult for the media to keep track of.

Anyone can call themselves whatever comes to mind.

metis · Apr 2, 2020

Amanaki said:
The music was better that time At least in the beginning of the hippie era

And my favorite then and still today were and are the Moody Blues, and the themes of some of their albums was definitely hippie-like but not like the acid-rock "music".

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